Christian motoring....
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Ph..... While I'm sure we can all agree that the general standard of driving is getting worse in regards to the usual bad habits such as selfish attitudes, inattention etc I think we need to talk about the other end of the scale - "Christian motorists" as James May dubbed them.
Now don't get me wrong, It has its place, stuck in a line of traffic and hold back to let someone out of a side road? fine, leave a gap for someone to change lanes on the motorway to overtake a slower vehicle? great, I'm talking about those that apply the teachings of Mr May and blindly apply them to completely stupid situations, I have lost count of the amount of times I have been approaching a line of parked cars on my side, stopped because I can see a car approaching on the other side that has right of way, sit there and wait only for them to also come to a stop and then flash me through, I mean, yeah... thanks mate, we could have all got on with our day quicker if you had just carried on coming at 30mph instead of me having to wait for you to come to a stop and then flash me through. I've been following people on clear roads at normal speeds who have come to a stop to let someone out of a side road.... why?! traffics moving you plank, just keep going, worst one of these I had was on a 50mph country road, literally just me and him on the road, road clear behind me and matey decides to come to a complete stop the let someone out of a road on the right......
Please tell me I'm not the only one to get wound up by these chuffernuggets?
Now don't get me wrong, It has its place, stuck in a line of traffic and hold back to let someone out of a side road? fine, leave a gap for someone to change lanes on the motorway to overtake a slower vehicle? great, I'm talking about those that apply the teachings of Mr May and blindly apply them to completely stupid situations, I have lost count of the amount of times I have been approaching a line of parked cars on my side, stopped because I can see a car approaching on the other side that has right of way, sit there and wait only for them to also come to a stop and then flash me through, I mean, yeah... thanks mate, we could have all got on with our day quicker if you had just carried on coming at 30mph instead of me having to wait for you to come to a stop and then flash me through. I've been following people on clear roads at normal speeds who have come to a stop to let someone out of a side road.... why?! traffics moving you plank, just keep going, worst one of these I had was on a 50mph country road, literally just me and him on the road, road clear behind me and matey decides to come to a complete stop the let someone out of a road on the right......
Please tell me I'm not the only one to get wound up by these chuffernuggets?
I can agree to some extent, there have been many times someone in front has come to a stop to let a car join from a side road when there is no one behind me for miles and i’ve thought “get a shift on, what was the point”
But then i think to myself about how i am getting agitated by someone being polite and showing manners and that maybe i am the issue in the situation
But then i think to myself about how i am getting agitated by someone being polite and showing manners and that maybe i am the issue in the situation
Courtesy causes crashes is a reasonable mantra to follow.
Just follow the rules of the road, sometimes you'll have priority and get straight out and others you'll have to sit and wait, it'll balance out.
There's also the ones that think they're doing god's work while actually breaking the rules, see blocking lanes to block merge in turn as a prime example, often perpetrated by so called professional drivers.
Just follow the rules of the road, sometimes you'll have priority and get straight out and others you'll have to sit and wait, it'll balance out.
There's also the ones that think they're doing god's work while actually breaking the rules, see blocking lanes to block merge in turn as a prime example, often perpetrated by so called professional drivers.
Good example of this yesterday. Let a woman in a Fiat 500 out of a side road as we were all crawling along and it made no difference to my journey being behind a Green car as opposed to a Blue one.
Followed her for about a mile when she just stops dead at a pedestrian crossing to let a family cross. I'm not sure if she understood the concept of a pedestrian crossing but I generally stop when the lights are Red and go when they are Green! Car behind me was too close and almost went into the back of me, all to let pedestrians cross 5 seconds before they would have safely done so anyway! Overtook her at the first opportunity after that.
Followed her for about a mile when she just stops dead at a pedestrian crossing to let a family cross. I'm not sure if she understood the concept of a pedestrian crossing but I generally stop when the lights are Red and go when they are Green! Car behind me was too close and almost went into the back of me, all to let pedestrians cross 5 seconds before they would have safely done so anyway! Overtook her at the first opportunity after that.
There was a slightly offset crossroads in the town where I used to live which was terrible for this. The offset meant that it was entirely clear who had priority, and all routes had similar levels of traffic. When everyone just drove to the rules it worked fine (apart from the odd HGV needing both sides of the road to turn). However, there were fairly often times someone decided to be "helpful", which was then followed by about 15 seconds of hand waving and "no after you" being politely said without anybody moving!!
As well as delaying the traffic, it made the roads much harder to cross as a pedestrian. Instead of being able to work out from the traffic flow when it was safe to cross it became completely random where cars would come from next.
More recently on a very quiet road in a village, I slowed down a little coming up to a parked car on my side of the road to wait for a van coming the other way to pass. There was no doubt it had priority, even applying any kind of "fairness" principle as it was going to get to the restricted part of the road before me and was going uphill! However, it suddenly slammed on the brakes, flashed the lights and urgently beckoned me to go first.
After realising he really did want me to go first and muttering to myself that some people really can be too polite, it turned out the driver was acting in his own interest after all. Once I had passed, I then saw the van turn into a driveway I'd have been blocking by waiting for him to go first. I then felt a bit of guilt for thinking badly of the other driver when it was really my fault for blocking an entrance!!
As well as delaying the traffic, it made the roads much harder to cross as a pedestrian. Instead of being able to work out from the traffic flow when it was safe to cross it became completely random where cars would come from next.
More recently on a very quiet road in a village, I slowed down a little coming up to a parked car on my side of the road to wait for a van coming the other way to pass. There was no doubt it had priority, even applying any kind of "fairness" principle as it was going to get to the restricted part of the road before me and was going uphill! However, it suddenly slammed on the brakes, flashed the lights and urgently beckoned me to go first.
After realising he really did want me to go first and muttering to myself that some people really can be too polite, it turned out the driver was acting in his own interest after all. Once I had passed, I then saw the van turn into a driveway I'd have been blocking by waiting for him to go first. I then felt a bit of guilt for thinking badly of the other driver when it was really my fault for blocking an entrance!!
8IKERDAVE said:
Good example of this yesterday. Let a woman in a Fiat 500 out of a side road as we were all crawling along and it made no difference to my journey being behind a Green car as opposed to a Blue one.
Followed her for about a mile when she just stops dead at a pedestrian crossing to let a family cross. I'm not sure if she understood the concept of a pedestrian crossing but I generally stop when the lights are Red and go when they are Green! Car behind me was too close and almost went into the back of me, all to let pedestrians cross 5 seconds before they would have safely done so anyway! Overtook her at the first opportunity after that.
We have something a little similar.Followed her for about a mile when she just stops dead at a pedestrian crossing to let a family cross. I'm not sure if she understood the concept of a pedestrian crossing but I generally stop when the lights are Red and go when they are Green! Car behind me was too close and almost went into the back of me, all to let pedestrians cross 5 seconds before they would have safely done so anyway! Overtook her at the first opportunity after that.
There's a splitter island/pedestrian refuge as you exit a roundabout. You're turning right behind someone else and they stop suddenly to let someone off the refuge, you're exiting the roundabout immediately behind them.
And we live up a long straight single track road with passing places (all on one side). Pull into a passing place to allow someone coming the other way and they then stop and flash you through.
Mr_Ixolite said:
Ph..... While I'm sure we can all agree that the general standard of driving is getting worse in regards to the usual bad habits such as selfish attitudes, inattention etc I think we need to talk about the other end of the scale - "Christian motorists" as James May dubbed them.
What a stupid bit of 'dubbing' - manners (on of off road) is nothing to do with choosing one fairy tale to believe in.MrWideFit said:
I can agree to some extent, there have been many times someone in front has come to a stop to let a car join from a side road when there is no one behind me for miles and i ve thought get a shift on, what was the point
But then i think to myself about how i am getting agitated by someone being polite and showing manners and that maybe i am the issue in the situation
They're not being polite and showing manners, they are completely ignoring the highway code and generally accepted and followed rules of the road. They are being awkward and irritating in overt displays of virtue signalling.But then i think to myself about how i am getting agitated by someone being polite and showing manners and that maybe i am the issue in the situation
Personally the ones that grate me are the ones in slow moving traffic indicate and then pull out into the next lane thinking they have right of way!! all dicks especially when i pull up side them and give them a little tune on the horn. They all have a funny wave or have fingers missing....
MrWideFit said:
Surely slowing your own journey just to allow somebody to carry on along their own, which you have 0 obligations to do shows some form of politeness? rules of the road aside of course, i very rarely let anyone out if not in crawling traffic already etc
Politeness to someone waiting, as they must, at a give way line, while causing n other drivers to have to wait is not, overall, polite.I can think of a few, maybe off topic who knows.
1. People who pull out in front of you only to turn off at the next junction, which means you end up grinding to a halt.
2. People who pull out in front of you causing you to brake, but there was actually no traffic behind you and if they had waited 2 seconds could have pulled out at leisure with zero impact to any other road user.
1. People who pull out in front of you only to turn off at the next junction, which means you end up grinding to a halt.
2. People who pull out in front of you causing you to brake, but there was actually no traffic behind you and if they had waited 2 seconds could have pulled out at leisure with zero impact to any other road user.
Skyedriver said:
And we live up a long straight single track road with passing places (all on one side). Pull into a passing place to allow someone coming the other way and they then stop and flash you through.
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