Band A VED (currently £0 )
Band A VED (currently £0 )
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Billy_Rosewood

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3,395 posts

184 months

Thursday 6th November
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As I understand it, our 2016 Band A car will go from £0 VED to £20 VED "next year".

The usual VED renewal date falls sometime mid-year, but looking at the government website its due 1st Jan 2026. I was expecting the existing renewal date to be honoured. Given the date has been brought forward I'm also guessing the price "hike" isn't from 5th April 2026, as I was expecting, but instead 1st Jan 2026 (why else would the date be automatically brought forward).

Its not a bank-breaking sum by any means, but moving the goal posts just seems un-principled. I'm tempted to SORN and re-tax the vehicle at the £0 rate to see if it'll extend the date for another year (doubt it).

mobile chicane22

389 posts

208 months

Thursday 6th November
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The current government and un principled yep

knk

1,313 posts

291 months

Thursday 6th November
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Retaxing at £0 (no need to sorn) worked for resetting before BEVs were due to be taxed so it is worth a go.

Wonderman

2,866 posts

215 months

Thursday 6th November
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Billy_Rosewood said:
As I understand it, our 2016 Band A car will go from £0 VED to £20 VED "next year".

The usual VED renewal date falls sometime mid-year, but looking at the government website its due 1st Jan 2026. I was expecting the existing renewal date to be honoured. Given the date has been brought forward I'm also guessing the price "hike" isn't from 5th April 2026, as I was expecting, but instead 1st Jan 2026 (why else would the date be automatically brought forward).

Its not a bank-breaking sum by any means, but moving the goal posts just seems un-principled. I'm tempted to SORN and re-tax the vehicle at the £0 rate to see if it'll extend the date for another year (doubt it).
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vehicle-tax-for-electric-and-low-emissions-vehicles

I read that as change from April this year, not 26, hence in year charge of £20.

(That will help contribute to the ~£600k rebrand of the GOV dot website)

Slop

508 posts

241 months

Thursday 6th November
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I retaxed our Band A car last month, has gone from £0 to £20

Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,395 posts

184 months

Thursday 6th November
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Cheers guys. Sounds like it's already gone up then..

Still sneaky that my renewal date has been brought forward.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,657 posts

63 months

Thursday 6th November
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108, previously free now £20. Still cheap but disappointing, gotta love our labour government.

Master Bean

4,760 posts

140 months

Thursday 6th November
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I paid mine today for my Fiesta. A 2000% price increase on last year. Unbelievable Jeff. No longer the same price as my bicycle.

theicemario

1,457 posts

95 months

Friday 7th November
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Good. No reason any car shouldn t pay VED when mine is £430 and there s an awful lot of (interesting) cars in the £700+ bands.

Billy_Rosewood

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3,395 posts

184 months

Friday 7th November
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theicemario said:
Good. No reason any car shouldn t pay VED when mine is £430 and there s an awful lot of (interesting) cars in the £700+ bands.
It's fine to hold the view that no car should be zero VED. But your reasoning is off.

My weekend car does 1000miles a year and I pay £700+ annually for that. Hopefully that makes you feel a little better laugh

Mr Tidy

28,480 posts

147 months

Friday 7th November
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theicemario said:
Good. No reason any car shouldn t pay VED when mine is £430 and there s an awful lot of (interesting) cars in the £700+ bands.
If it makes you feel better my daily costs £430 a year and my fun car costs £760 a year, thanks to Gordon the Moron - another Labour politician who applied it retrospectively, before he taxed private pension schemes and increased the minimum retirement age for private/workplace pensions from 50 to 55.

So with a Labour government in power you should probably be grateful for an increase from £0 to just £20!


Wonderman

2,866 posts

215 months

Saturday 8th November
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Mr Tidy said:
If it makes you feel better my daily costs £430 a year and my fun car costs £760 a year, thanks to Gordon the Moron - another Labour politician who applied it retrospectively, before he taxed private pension schemes and increased the minimum retirement age for private/workplace pensions from 50 to 55.

So with a Labour government in power you should probably be grateful for an increase from £0 to just £20!

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vehicle-tax-for-electric-and-low-emissions-vehicles Published 9 April 2024- Labour won the election 5 July 2024

Apparently a Budget soon...

A government spokesperson told the BBC: "Fuel duty covers petrol and diesel, but there's no equivalent for electric vehicles. We want a fairer system for all drivers." [Translate- we want your money and get ready for all EV mandate.]

The statement follows a report in the Daily Telegraph, external that the Budget would include a new pay-per-mile charge for electric vehicles from 2028, following a consultation.

According to the Telegraph, EV drivers could be charged 3p per mile, on top of other road taxes, amounting to an extra £12 on a journey from London to Edinburgh. Drivers of hybrid cars would also be charged, but at a lower rate.

and pensions you say...

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is reportedly planning to impose national insurance on employee pension contributions exceeding £2,000 annually. [The independent]

Riley Blue

22,778 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th November
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Tax bands from April 1st 2025; enjoy them while you still can...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67d...

croyde

25,226 posts

250 months

Saturday 8th November
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Is there a formula that works out how much of one's wages you actually get?

Income tax and NI on earnings then everything you have to spend it on is has tax added, and god forbid if you fancy a few nice things.

Council tax, insurance tax, VED, fuel tax, gas and electric VAT, Tax if your car cost over £40k (most family cars nowadays), VAT on fuel tax, import duty on personal goods bought abroad and so many more.....

The government get so much from us but then spend it like my ex-wife. Then, when skint, beg for more, except they don't have to beg, they just take it.

theicemario

1,457 posts

95 months

Saturday 8th November
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croyde said:
Is there a formula that works out how much of one's wages you actually get?

Income tax and NI on earnings then everything you have to spend it on is has tax added, and god forbid if you fancy a few nice things.

Council tax, insurance tax, VED, fuel tax, gas and electric VAT, Tax if your car cost over £40k (most family cars nowadays), VAT on fuel tax, import duty on personal goods bought abroad and so many more.....

The government get so much from us but then spend it like my ex-wife. Then, when skint, beg for more, except they don't have to beg, they just take it.
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/how-do-uk-tax-revenues-compare-internationally?tab=tab-402




Muddle238

4,273 posts

133 months

Saturday 8th November
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theicemario said:
Good. No reason any car shouldn t pay VED when mine is £430 and there s an awful lot of (interesting) cars in the £700+ bands.
Of course, you aren't obliged to drive a car in the higher tax brackets. If you choose to do so, you don't have the moral right to berate those who choose not to. After all, it's the government who set and publish the tax brackets, not the drivers. If people choose a vehicle in a cheap or nil tax bracket, that's their win, not your loss, and they shouldn't have to forego that advantage purely because you chose something in a higher bracket.

I do agree, there are a lot of interesting cars in the higher brackets and while that's a shame, stuff like the 108 is actually the sort of car that makes sense for local, single occupancy journeys, of which most journeys are made up of. Low tax on such vehicles is a good thing.