RE: UK launch for BMW Classic Partner Programme
RE: UK launch for BMW Classic Partner Programme
Sunday 26th April

UK launch for BMW Classic Partner Programme

We've heard a lot about BMW's Neue Klasse future recently; here's some good news if you have an original...


The appeal of running an older car at the moment is considerable. As newer machines continue to get larger, pricier and more complicated (without being any more fun), so it’s only natural to turn to the past for a better compromise of usability and entertainment. Stick a CarPlay unit in most things from the 21st century and you’ll have a lovely daily driver; an old car in 2026 is a very different prospect to what it would have been in, say, 2005. 

But there’s a problem, of course, and it’s parts. Running an old car is great, right up until something breaks and what’s needed is unavailable. That’s not just ancient, esoteric classics, either: we’re already at a point where owners of the B7 Audi RS4 - one of the best fast Audis of all time - don’t have great factory support for important bits. As they and so many other cars of their ilk continue to appreciate, and therefore people want to keep them in tip top condition, it’s a problem that’s going to persist for a while yet. Because, however good the aftermarket undoubtedly is, sometimes you only want actual OE. Especially if your old car is now worth a bit more than it was. 

It’s something BMW is now attempting to tackle (have you seen what people think M3 CSLs are worth?) with the introduction of the Classic Partner Programme in the UK. A pilot scheme over here for now, don’t be surprised if expansion comes pretty soon as owners seek out factory approved standards of cars. For now, the premise of the first four locations is simple: ‘Their appointment ensures that UK customers with classic BMW models can access dedicated support locally, while benefiting from the assurance and quality associated with the global BMW Classic programme, to help maintain the value of their classic vehicle over the longer term.’ Those initial locations are Dick Lovett Bristol for the south west, Group 1 Hailsham for the south, Sytner Stevenage for the south east and Halliwell Jones for the north west. They really will offer up everything, too, from minor maintenance to a full on resto. So whether you’re keen just to keep BMW stamps in the book, or there’s a long abandoned family heirloom in the garage, the BMW Classic Partners are on hand to help. 

Werner Pagenstert, BMW UK’s Customer Support Director for Aftersales, said: “The launch of the BMW Classic Partner programme represents an important milestone for BMW Classic in the UK. By officially recognising these four retailers as part of our global BMW Classic Partner network, we are strengthening our ability to support customers who are passionate about preserving and enjoying their classic BMWs. This programme ensures that specialist knowledge, heritage expertise and manufacturer?approved standards are available locally, while remaining fully aligned with BMW Group Classic internationally.” See, it’s not all electric SUVs and panoramic iDrive just yet; BMW is still bothered about handsome old cars with straight sixes in them, which is nice to hear. And what a time to encourage you towards that old school Bimmer purchase, particularly if you’re near one of those retailers. PH is chock full of fabulous machines, of course, from CSL to Compact. With 2002s, E28s, M5s and 8 Series for good measure. There’s never been a better time, surely…


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pSyCoSiS

Original Poster:

4,218 posts

230 months

Monday 27th April
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Great to see BMW launching this programme. It will be a success.

But remember - some of the specialists out there will be much more knowledgeable on the classic BMWs, and owners will most likely prefer to use them.

Turbobanana

8,058 posts

226 months

Monday 27th April
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As someone who is considering an older BMW in the near future, this can only be good news.

@PH: why does an old car need an CarPlay unit to be 'a lovely daily driver'?

JoshSm

3,891 posts

62 months

Monday 27th April
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"we’re already at a point where owners of the B7 Audi RS4 - one of the best fast Audis of all time - don’t have great factory support for important bits."

Not like that's exactly a new situation though when it comes to Audi. You get the same with other big OEMs when it comes to important bits for some models. Can be pot luck!

Though with Audi it's been that way fairly consistently for years.

Studio263

107 posts

29 months

Monday 27th April
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Turbobanana said:
@PH: why does an old car need an CarPlay unit to be 'a lovely daily driver'?
Because they like the idea of taking out a beautifully made and superb sounding Blaupunkt unit and replacing it with some blue LED festooned tat from Temu? Because they can't stand the idea of being out of reach of their wretched mobile 'phones for **even a minute**? It beat me, the correct factory fitted audio system should be considered a basic requirement for cars being sold at this level.

nismo48

6,480 posts

232 months

Monday 27th April
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Studio263 said:
Turbobanana said:
@PH: why does an old car need an CarPlay unit to be 'a lovely daily driver'?
Because they like the idea of taking out a beautifully made and superb sounding Blaupunkt unit and replacing it with some blue LED festooned tat from Temu? Because they can't stand the idea of being out of reach of their wretched mobile 'phones for **even a minute**? It beat me, the correct factory fitted audio system should be considered a basic requirement for cars being sold at this level.
This 100%
WTF do you need connectivity when you are driving a classic

darreni

4,398 posts

295 months

Monday 27th April
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The biggest issue at the moment is the amount of NLA parts. I'm not sure the service centers will have any impact on that.

georgeyboy12345

4,379 posts

60 months

Monday 27th April
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Good that you can get parts for these, but just looks like a way for dealers to absolutely rinse modern classic BMW owners. You’ll absolutely be better off going to a specialist.

I guess dealer’s franchises are seeing their takings down in the service departments with the advent of EVs, so they are hoping this will plug the shortfall a little.

benny.c

3,699 posts

232 months

Monday 27th April
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darreni said:
The biggest issue at the moment is the amount of NLA parts. I'm not sure the service centers will have any impact on that.
True. Halliwell Jones in Chester can tell me that the exhaust bracket I need is NLA just as easily as a "Classic Partner".

Dr G

15,852 posts

267 months

Monday 27th April
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nismo48 said:
This 100%
WTF do you need connectivity when you are driving a classic
Because most people like radios and navigation that works in the car they drive every day.

GTRene

21,324 posts

249 months

Monday 27th April
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good to see/hear, and looking at those photo's, now thats a BMW showroom smile

btw, try to find a original BMW M coupe brake booster or was it the thing on top were the fluid goes in, yes I think it was that, new? its out (at least back then) so had to find a good old example at the time and so with more parts.

pb8g09

3,093 posts

94 months

Monday 27th April
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Dr G said:
nismo48 said:
This 100%
WTF do you need connectivity when you are driving a classic
Because most people like radios and navigation that works in the car they drive every day.
This. Not all of us want to be sat reading an A to Z on a hard shoulder when on a driving tour.

Clad-Hach

384 posts

13 months

Monday 27th April
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GTRene said:
good to see/hear, and looking at those photo's, now thats a BMW showroom smile
Totally agree...everything in there has appeal.

SFTWend

1,357 posts

100 months

Monday 27th April
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Good to hear, especially if this bolsters parts availability.

Where will they be recruiting their mechanics from and how will their hourly rates compare to established specialists?

Jte3397

747 posts

121 months

Monday 27th April
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benny.c said:
darreni said:
The biggest issue at the moment is the amount of NLA parts. I'm not sure the service centers will have any impact on that.
True. Halliwell Jones in Chester can tell me that the exhaust bracket I need is NLA just as easily as a "Classic Partner".
Yep. 13 months in on a paid for e46 windscreen wiper cowl which is apparently available but on back order.
The repair piece I've ordered as a stop gap apparently left Germany 16th March banghead

tonyg58

441 posts

224 months

Monday 27th April
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They tried this before (about the late 1990s?).
Can't remember what it was called, but it was a cheaper labour rate and decent parts availability for older cars (I was running an M535 at the time).
Didn't last long.

grumbas

1,112 posts

216 months

Monday 27th April
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Jte3397 said:
benny.c said:
darreni said:
The biggest issue at the moment is the amount of NLA parts. I'm not sure the service centers will have any impact on that.
True. Halliwell Jones in Chester can tell me that the exhaust bracket I need is NLA just as easily as a "Classic Partner".
Yep. 13 months in on a paid for e46 windscreen wiper cowl which is apparently available but on back order.
The repair piece I've ordered as a stop gap apparently left Germany 16th March banghead
I was going to say exactly the same, quite a few E46 M3 parts are going NLA or demand pricing.

The rear casing of the diff with the bushes has jumped from £150 to £500ish (BMW don't sell just the bushes) and the convertible arb bushes are something like £90 each. Fortunately Powerflex have cost effective options for both.

The Aliexpress wiper cowls are getting good reviews on M3cutters for the price (£80ish) so I'll probably give one of those a go considering how bad mine has suddenly got.

Jte3397

747 posts

121 months

Monday 27th April
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grumbas said:
I was going to say exactly the same, quite a few E46 M3 parts are going NLA or demand pricing.

The rear casing of the diff with the bushes has jumped from £150 to £500ish (BMW don't sell just the bushes) and the convertible arb bushes are something like £90 each. Fortunately Powerflex have cost effective options for both.

The Aliexpress wiper cowls are getting good reviews on M3cutters for the price (£80ish) so I'll probably give one of those a go considering how bad mine has suddenly got.
I thought I'd had those bushes done recently... mind you it was part of a £4k bill so maybe they were that much. I know drive shafts were NLA at one point recently, I secured what was apparently the 2nd to last pair for a bargain £900.

I'll check out the Aliexpress ones, thanks for the tip.

Angelo1985

736 posts

51 months

Monday 27th April
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Turbobanana said:
As someone who is considering an older BMW in the near future, this can only be good news.

@PH: why does an old car need an CarPlay unit to be 'a lovely daily driver'?
If it’s a proper classic that you’ll use only on occasions, like my 500 or my DS, there is no point.
If you are using a semi-classic car daily (say, a perfectly efficient E39 or an M10 5 series) then the only thing separating them massively from the latest offerings is the connectivity tech on board. Which is handy, because it lets you stream your music from Spotify, allow you to use google maps and to search through your telephone book seamlessly using Siri or its android equivalent. Let’s not pretend that the voice control on the first series range sport were perfect or that the sat nav on your 15 years old Mercedes will be perfectly fine.

It’s not strictly necessary but it’s a nice addition to the car. And you don’t need to buy some cheap crap from temi, there are some nice units for the right price. Let’s not be luddites, forumites.

CSR Performance

473 posts

13 months

Monday 27th April
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Angelo1985 said:
If it s a proper classic that you ll use only on occasions, like my 500 or my DS, there is no point.
If you are using a semi-classic car daily (say, a perfectly efficient E39 or an M10 5 series) then the only thing separating them massively from the latest offerings is the connectivity tech on board. Which is handy, because it lets you stream your music from Spotify, allow you to use google maps and to search through your telephone book seamlessly using Siri or its android equivalent. Let s not pretend that the voice control on the first series range sport were perfect or that the sat nav on your 15 years old Mercedes will be perfectly fine.

It s not strictly necessary but it s a nice addition to the car. And you don t need to buy some cheap crap from temi, there are some nice units for the right price. Let s not be luddites, forumites.
Exactly. I want to listen to the podcasts and music that I have saved and easily accessible on my phone. I like to use waze or google maps for navigation even if I'm in my weekend toy or classic car. I can remotely open the garage doors too, which is a feature I don't use on my daily wink

howardhughes

1,353 posts

229 months

Monday 27th April
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This is fantastic news and well needed. I'm hoping that the MINI side of things will be open to something similar.
My 08 JCW is at a stage where parts are becoming a little difficult to source...