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Ain't no way this s
tbox is compliant
Until we check the system
Appreciating they are all different systems, because why tf can we have governance with common sense, the local.ones say hell no.
Was this someone at tfl having been given a drink? Are things like this corrected? I guess it may be an import, but I thought the London default was to "don't know what you are so assume bad".
tbox is compliant Until we check the system
Appreciating they are all different systems, because why tf can we have governance with common sense, the local.ones say hell no.
Was this someone at tfl having been given a drink? Are things like this corrected? I guess it may be an import, but I thought the London default was to "don't know what you are so assume bad".
Nobody addresses this when I post it, but yes.
There are thousands of vehicles, my friends drive them and have paid TFL staff to alter records and supply them with a letter saying they have proved the vehicle meets emission standards.
It was done through religious establishments at first, if you knew you knew.
ITV news exposed it on a 6 o clock bulletin some time ago, other news agencies published details of it online, all over the country.
I watched the 10 pn bulletin, it was not mentioned, and within days , all online news stories related to it were gone.
Kahn had it buried, there has been no news of sacking or prosecution, and the vehicles that had records altered are still running around free of charge.
You have no idea how much other news is buried in London, violence, theft, robbery, corruption, live here with your eyes open , it is very obvious.
There are thousands of vehicles, my friends drive them and have paid TFL staff to alter records and supply them with a letter saying they have proved the vehicle meets emission standards.
It was done through religious establishments at first, if you knew you knew.
ITV news exposed it on a 6 o clock bulletin some time ago, other news agencies published details of it online, all over the country.
I watched the 10 pn bulletin, it was not mentioned, and within days , all online news stories related to it were gone.
Kahn had it buried, there has been no news of sacking or prosecution, and the vehicles that had records altered are still running around free of charge.
You have no idea how much other news is buried in London, violence, theft, robbery, corruption, live here with your eyes open , it is very obvious.
Two peculiarities which I own are ULEZ compliant, not through any nefarious means, but through providing the Manufacturers CoC (Certificate of Compliance) to TFL.
The first is my 2001 Alpina B10 V8 Touring with its 4.6 litre petrol engine and the second is my 1997 Alpina B12 5.7 with its 5.7 litre V12 petrol engine. The B12 actually meets the CO emissions for EURO 6 and not just EURO 4 upon which the petrol ULEZ limits are based.
The first is my 2001 Alpina B10 V8 Touring with its 4.6 litre petrol engine and the second is my 1997 Alpina B12 5.7 with its 5.7 litre V12 petrol engine. The B12 actually meets the CO emissions for EURO 6 and not just EURO 4 upon which the petrol ULEZ limits are based.
I can believe it is.. at least on the screen...
A couple years back I saw an E39 M5 for sale in London that was advertised as ULEZ compliant and when checked on line it came up that it was... crazy thing was that it was the same age and model of my M5 which was not... something doesn't quite stack up somewhere.
A couple years back I saw an E39 M5 for sale in London that was advertised as ULEZ compliant and when checked on line it came up that it was... crazy thing was that it was the same age and model of my M5 which was not... something doesn't quite stack up somewhere.
A bunch of late registered TVRs are flagged as compliant when they absolutely are not. Not entirely sure how that happened.
This one for example - https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20301479
This one for example - https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20301479
hxc_ said:
A bunch of late registered TVRs are flagged as compliant when they absolutely are not. Not entirely sure how that happened.
This one for example - https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20301479
It's a late Tuscan, 2006, so would absolutely be ULEZ compliant. Every petrol car made in 2006 is compliant, and the last of the Tuscans were all Euro 4 which means it's definitely compliant. This one for example - https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20301479
TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's a late Tuscan, 2006, so would absolutely be ULEZ compliant. Every petrol car made in 2006 is compliant, and the last of the Tuscans were all Euro 4 which means it's definitely compliant.
I would like to see some sort of real evidence that the Speed 6 was ever actually Euro 4. From a previous thead: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
"I tried to pay for a CoC from TVR, however once I explained what it was for (as opposed to exporting it) they explained that NO2 tests had never been done as they had an exemption as they're built in low numbers.
So no joy there."
Edited by hxc_ on Thursday 30th April 09:53
morrisminorandthemajors said:
I've owned an SLK55 and C63 (which attracted hefty road tax due to emissions) in recent times and currently have a C55 all of which are ULEZ compliant.
Always thought that was strange but maybe I'm missing something.
That's because the CO2 is what they're taxed on that may or may not heat the planet, other threads are available to discuss that, not the particulates that sAlways thought that was strange but maybe I'm missing something.
tty old diesels spew out that is the focus of ULEZ and other clean air zones. hxc_ said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's a late Tuscan, 2006, so would absolutely be ULEZ compliant. Every petrol car made in 2006 is compliant, and the last of the Tuscans were all Euro 4 which means it's definitely compliant.
I would like to see some sort of real evidence that the Speed 6 was ever actually Euro 4. Seesure said:
I can believe it is.. at least on the screen...
A couple years back I saw an E39 M5 for sale in London that was advertised as ULEZ compliant and when checked on line it came up that it was... crazy thing was that it was the same age and model of my M5 which was not... something doesn't quite stack up somewhere.
There is a weird thing with E39 M5’s that (IIRC) pre-facelift cars are compliant whereas post-facelift cars apparently are not.A couple years back I saw an E39 M5 for sale in London that was advertised as ULEZ compliant and when checked on line it came up that it was... crazy thing was that it was the same age and model of my M5 which was not... something doesn't quite stack up somewhere.
I checked on my E34 4.6 Alpina and that definitely isn’t but happily my M635CSi is simply by now being over 40 years old.
The CoC actually gives all the emissions figures for the B10 and B12
TwigtheWonderkid said:
All UK petrol cars registered form 1/1/06 had to be Euro 4, or they couldn't be registered. AI tells me the last of the Tuscans were Euro 4.
AI knows absolutely nothing about TVRs.The engines were no different to prior ones. They were incorrectly registered. There are many cars that are wrong.
nikaiyo2 said:
LOL its pretty common in certain areas.
You can pay to get a certificate that "prooves" your car complies.
Its well known that within a specific demographic it happens and nothing at all is done about it.
What are these certificates that TFL accepts? I know there are a few garages which do the testing for bikes but I've not heard of any way of convincing TFL bar a CoC from the manufacture with the NOx measurements on it. Unless you are suggesting there are people faking CoCs (possible I guess!)?You can pay to get a certificate that "prooves" your car complies.
Its well known that within a specific demographic it happens and nothing at all is done about it.
hxc_ said:
What are these certificates that TFL accepts? I know there are a few garages which do the testing for bikes but I've not heard of any way of convincing TFL bar a CoC from the manufacture with the NOx measurements on it. Unless you are suggesting there are people faking CoCs (possible I guess!)?
I was told by a guy that I know and sort of trust he could get a "cousin" who worked for TFL to alter the database. He implied that it "was common" and everyone did it.Basically the cousin or whatever who works for TFL can update your registration so it shows it complies and that he could do it for me if I wanted. Maybe he would then have offered this service for a £100 or whatever and its nonsense, not sure.
hxc_ said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
All UK petrol cars registered form 1/1/06 had to be Euro 4, or they couldn't be registered. AI tells me the last of the Tuscans were Euro 4.
AI knows absolutely nothing about TVRs.The engines were no different to prior ones. They were incorrectly registered. There are many cars that are wrong.
The engines might have been the same, but they could have been made Euro 4 compliant by fitting a 3 way catalytic converter with a fast light off feature to clean the exhaust from a cold start, plus other software changes to the fuel injection and engine management system.
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