RE: Maserati GranTurismo MCStradale | Spotted
RE: Maserati GranTurismo MCStradale | Spotted
Wednesday 17th June

Maserati GranTurismo MCStradale | Spotted

The other Stradale with a Ferrari V8 and automated manual - for a whole lot less than a 360


Have you seen the price of a Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale these days? Having hung around £200,000 for a long time, there’s now not one on PH for less than £400,000. Which is some going; perhaps as new Ferraris become ever more powerful and technically advanced, so the rawness and intensity of what’s now the old school appeals even more.

But at that money, the stripped-out Stradale becomes a very different prospect. At twice the value of just a few years ago, you’d surely be less prone to take it out for a thrash and more concerned about how best to preserve it. Or attempt to make a Stradale homage from a standard 360… 

Now, we’re not for one second suggesting that a Maserati GranTurismo MCStradale is a 360 alternative. But the mindsets are similar; if you’re a fan of the Ferrari, if you like a high-revving, glorious-sounding flat plane crank V8, a fizzier chassis and a bit more excitement to every drive, chances are the Maserati appeals as well. What was cool at launch, a GranTurismo with some extra edge and a noise to die for, looks extra special less than 15 years later. 

The Stradale ticked all the road racer boxes: lighter, lower and firmer than standard, with exotic materials aplenty and actually just the two seats at launch. This is one of the later, 460hp cars that got the two rear seats back in, because even a motorsport-inspired Maserati GranTurismo is still a GranTurismo - it can’t really have just the two seats. 

More expensive than the rest of range yet no more powerful, the Stradale was a bit of a tough sell when new, despite probably showing off the GT’s talents to their fullest. The benefit of that is sturdy residuals, with the best ones still commanding £60k despite their age. They seem unlikely to budge a great deal, either, given the latest GranTurismo’s turbo V6 and another Stradale looking unlikely. It isn’t going to appreciate like its Ferrari namesake, but an MC won’t drop to the alluring depths of some less special GTs.

This one is £50k, a 2013 car with special order paint, loadsa carbon, and an ECU tickle from specialists AV Engineering. That’s said to bring between 10 and 15 per cent more power and torque, as well as benefit driveability, so it sounds well worth having. There’s plenty of green in the MOT history, a GranTuismo looks as divine as ever, and the mileage is fine. Of course, there are plenty of alternatives, much as there always was for Maserati’s best 2+2, though it’d probably be hard to think of anything else once you’ve set eyes on this. Or heard it…


SPECIFICATION | MASERATI GRANTURISMO MC STRADALE

Engine: 4,691cc V8
Transmission: 6-speed automated manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 460@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 376@4,750rpm
MPG: 20
CO2: 337g/km
Year registered: 2013
Recorded mileage: 46,246
Price new: £110,110
Yours for: £49,950

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Robertb

Original Poster:

3,677 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Looks a very cool car for £50k.

georgeyboy12345

4,508 posts

61 months

Wednesday 17th June
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What was the gearbox like in these?

Fairly heavy at 1770 kg, though not at all by todays standards

Motormouth88

733 posts

86 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Will no doubt sound incredible but hasn’t aged well at all imo

Unreal

9,880 posts

51 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Article sub-headline: The other Stradale with a Ferrari V8 and automated manual - for a whole lot less than a 360

Three paragraphs in: Now, we’re not for one second suggesting that a Maserati GranTurismo MCStradale is a 360 alternative.

TFFT.

Nice cars. I had a GT but good luck getting £50K for that one in this market.

thejaywills

627 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th June
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big shout but honestly think this is one of the better looking exotics of the time, that classic coupe shape just does it for me. But then I liked the Gransport too. And the ferrari motor absolutely sang.

fflump

3,244 posts

64 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Very nice but still a niche purchase as they’re still about 70% more than the non stradale which often have the more GT friendly ZF box.

Bluehorseshoe

57 posts

1 month

Wednesday 17th June
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These sound really good but I have read over all irs just not that great

michaeldouglas72

86 posts

158 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Ran a Granturismo S 4.7 with auto gearbox for 3 years and 29,000 miles. Nothing went wrong with it apart from a parking sensor which was £6 to replace and my fault for over zealous jet washing. Auto box was fantastic with paddle shift and perfectly spaced gearing without the hassle of the MC-shift. Fabulous car and the engine note was devine whether starting the car up or closing in on 7,000rpm at speed. My car cost half this and I lost buttons on depreciation, I would buy another in a heartbeat.

Bispoto

162 posts

98 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Is a nice car, but looking closely it seems to be suffering from “sticky button syndrome “.

It’s a big ask at £50,000, particularly considering the work it will no doubt require.


trevalvole

1,977 posts

59 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Article said:
But the mindsets are similar; if you’re a fan of the Ferrari, if you like a high-revving, glorious-sounding flat plane crank V8, a fizzier chassis and a bit more excitement to every drive, chances are the Maserati appeals as well.
Are you sure that the Maserati has a flat-plane crank?

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,655 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th June
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This is not a turbo car. Can you really get 10% to 15% extra power from an ECU remap ? What do a couple of guys at EV Engineering know that the Ferrari/Maserati team didn't ?

Cryssys

873 posts

64 months

Wednesday 17th June
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
This is not a turbo car. Can you really get 10% to 15% extra power from an ECU remap ? What do a couple of guys at EV Engineering know that the Ferrari/Maserati team didn't ?
Yes.

Most cars can be remapped to provide more power /torque and there's a whole industry based around this. 10 - 15% is quite achievable and doesn't require any hardware changes just software modifications.



BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,655 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Cryssys said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
This is not a turbo car. Can you really get 10% to 15% extra power from an ECU remap ? What do a couple of guys at EV Engineering know that the Ferrari/Maserati team didn't ?
Yes.

Most cars can be remapped to provide more power /torque and there's a whole industry based around this. 10 - 15% is quite achievable and doesn't require any hardware changes just software modifications.
I've seen that on turbos but not on non turbo cars

GreatNorthRoad

12 posts

41 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Anyone know if you can convert these to manual for a sensible cost? Plenty of people have done it with contemporary Ferraris…

Geoffcapes

1,210 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Cryssys said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
This is not a turbo car. Can you really get 10% to 15% extra power from an ECU remap ? What do a couple of guys at EV Engineering know that the Ferrari/Maserati team didn't ?
Yes.

Most cars can be remapped to provide more power /torque and there's a whole industry based around this. 10 - 15% is quite achievable and doesn't require any hardware changes just software modifications.
Modest improvements of 10-15% will be barely noticeable IMHO, but I'm guessing the ECU map is also for the gearbox so it changes gear quicker. I could be wrong @voicey would be the best one to tell us.

But any car AV have looked after is definitely worth the money.

Personally I think 50k for this is a steal. But what do I know, I've actually owned Maserati's as opposed to most of here who claim this that and the other about them having never owned one, but their mate "had nightmares with there's......"

ensignia

945 posts

261 months

Wednesday 17th June
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I had (have) one of the 4.7 MC-Shifts. Great cars for sure, mine went in for a clutch change and 3.5 years later it's still there!

It was mostly trouble free motoring up until the clutch issue, but the clutches on the robotised manuals need to be considered a consumable.

The sound was addictive and so much better than any other V8 I've had.

jimmsy

952 posts

153 months

Wednesday 17th June
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trevalvole said:
Article said:
But the mindsets are similar; if you re a fan of the Ferrari, if you like a high-revving, glorious-sounding flat plane crank V8, a fizzier chassis and a bit more excitement to every drive, chances are the Maserati appeals as well.
Are you sure that the Maserati has a flat-plane crank?
Ferrari manufactured engine, but cross-plane. Surprising detail to miss and easy enough to google. In fact isn't it part of the most famous fact about this engine, it's a Ferrari engine, but not used in a Ferrari and not flat-plane crank.

WCZ

11,382 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th June
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cool cars but iirc they were much cheaper than this until recently?

rplo08

26 posts

110 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Took a new one for a spin jn 2014. Thought it was very heavy and quite slow. Had to thrash it to make it feel sporty. Great interior but nded up with a DBS.

Justin-ow582

567 posts

131 months

Wednesday 17th June
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£10k cheaper than the other two Stradales on PH at the moment, albeit with twice the mileage.

I'd honestly lean towards an auto MC like this one (after a wheel repaint to anything other than gold):
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20260394

It has the Stradale style bonnet scoop, centred exhausts and vented front wings, so to most people (ignoring the facelifted front and lack of drive selector) they'd probably think it's a Stradale anyway, just without the hassle & worry of the automated manual.