RE: Skoda Superb 3.6 | Spotted
RE: Skoda Superb 3.6 | Spotted
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Skoda Superb 3.6 | Spotted

There's now been a Skoda Superb for a quarter of a century - but only one with that VR6...


This month Skoda is celebrating 25 years of its Superb. Having made its public debut at the Frankfurt show in September 2001, there have been four generations and almost 1.8 million sales. Understandably then, Skoda is pretty proud of its achievement - you can imagine the jokes that definitely still would have circulated about Skoda calling a car Superb in the early 21st century. But through a combination of value, quality and being absolutely ginormous, the Superb has won over plenty of fans, from minicabbers to caravanners and plenty in between. In the nicest way possible, the current car is about as close to the first as is realistic 25 years later: unpretentious, very useful, with a strong powertrain lineup and a certain style as well.

Skoda has even made the effort to create performance derivatives over the years. The previous 280 enjoyed a favourable (and deserved) reputation as a Golf R for grown-ups, with punchy turbo power, all-wheel-drive usability and some smartly judged styling tweaks in Sportline spec. Its replacement, the 265, has slightly less power but promises much the same thing. 

But there was a performance derivative (of sorts) before the 280 - remember the Skoda Superb 3.6? A car that could only have been signed off pre-2008, it paired perhaps the plainest Superb of all in the Mk2 with VW’s iconic VR6 in the nose. Not quite the full 300hp as in the Passat R36, but with 260hp it was more powerful than any Golf R32 ever was. That generous displacement meant a hearty 258lb ft, too; paired with the six-speed DSG it meant 62mph in six and a bit seconds as well as 155mph. Plus, just as importantly, the legendary drawl of the narrow-angle VR6. 

Yet there was nothing sporty about the Superb 3.6. It was all about luxury, the prestige of having a large multi-cylindered engine rather than anything more enthusiast-oriented. Ideal Q-car fodder, basically, because it really was just the badge and modest exhaust pipes to mark a 3.6 out. A Passat looked like a touring car by comparison. Probably Skoda never envisaged selling many in the UK, and they’ve always been a rare sight. Those who wanted a Superb would likely be content with the humbler (read: diesel) engines; those who wanted the same lump in something practical would probably stretch to the Passat. Or any of the more ostensibly sporty alternatives that were around at the time. 

The running costs will have impacted the popularity as well, and that will only have become more of a consideration recently. You’ll be lucky to get 30mpg, and a VR6 Superb (it still sounds odd) is in the highest VED bracket. Which is never going to get less expensive. On the other hand, it’s the most affordable way into a great engine. 

How affordable? This one is just £4,995, which seems like a whole lot of engine (and car) for not much money. It’s in flagship Laurin & Klement spec, meaning heated leather seats for all, a pano roof and a smart set of 18s (that look in really good condition). The 120,000 miles with two owners look to have been gentle given the condition of the seats (the 3.6 is not the engine to have for urban use!), and there’s a flawless MOT that runs until the Superb turns 15 years old. What more Czech curio does the family need? 


SPECIFICATION | SKODA SUPERB 3.6 V6 LAURIN & KLEMENT

Engine: 3.597cc, V6
Transmission: 6-speed DSG automatic, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 264@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 258@2,500rpm
CO2: 235g/km
MPG: 28
Year registered: 2012
Recorded mileage: 122,320
Price new: £27,000
Yours for: £4,995

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ChevronB19

Original Poster:

9,122 posts

192 months

Yesterday (12:01)
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Lovely, but I’d definitely have to change that steering wheel.

If you bought using their finance it nearly doubles the price!

DaveCWK

2,407 posts

203 months

Yesterday (12:15)
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That looks in really nice condition, and vented seats and a panoramic roof too.
What's the downside?

Andrew-zg2qw

21 posts

123 months

Yesterday (12:18)
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ChevronB19 said:
Lovely, but I d definitely have to change that steering wheel.

If you bought using their finance it nearly doubles the price!
Are you sure you don’t like that smiley face looking back at you? 😊

Martin 480 Turbo

717 posts

216 months

Yesterday (12:33)
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The Granada Turnier Ford refused to make.
When shopping around for the first family estate car back then I also sampled this. While having nice seats all the rest was shockingly inferior to the A6 Audi of the time. I know it was only 2/3 of the price. And it had a big, big rear seat. But it was also a bitt unresolved.

So, following the Granada recepy to the letter.

5lab

1,920 posts

225 months

Yesterday (12:33)
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DaveCWK said:
What's the downside?
you'll probably spend most of the asking price in fuel and tax every year. 10,000 miles at 25mpg is over £3200, and tax what, £800 a year? that's £17k over 3 years, or almost £500 a month, which would get you something much nicer.

Edited by 5lab on Monday 28th September 12:39

CMTMB

1,942 posts

24 months

Yesterday (12:41)
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DaveCWK said:
What's the downside?
I'm struggling to see the appeal tbh.

Not particularly quick, not particularly luxurious, terrible MPG, £800 year tax (and rising).

It's quite a lot of expense for a fruity engine note.

ChevronB19

Original Poster:

9,122 posts

192 months

Yesterday (12:41)
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Andrew-zg2qw said:
ChevronB19 said:
Lovely, but I d definitely have to change that steering wheel.

If you bought using their finance it nearly doubles the price!
Are you sure you don t like that smiley face looking back at you? ?
No, it’s just that it’s the same colour as the leather, personal taste for me means steering wheels have to be black!

Clad-Hach

891 posts

17 months

Yesterday (13:02)
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Lovely old bus...sadly now from a time when we had taste and just liked to run around in cars like this.

Huzzah

29,004 posts

212 months

Yesterday (13:12)
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5lab said:
you'll probably spend most of the asking price in fuel and tax every year. 10,000 miles at 25mpg is over £3200, and tax what, £800 a year? that's £17k over 3 years, or almost £500 a month, which would get you something much nicer.

Edited by 5lab on Monday 28th September 12:39
I'm struggling with the maths.

E38

737 posts

242 months

Yesterday (13:24)
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5lab said:
you'll probably spend most of the asking price in fuel and tax every year. 10,000 miles at 25mpg is over £3200, and tax what, £800 a year? that's £17k over 3 years, or almost £500 a month, which would get you something much nicer.

Edited by 5lab on Monday 28th September 12:39
So this "almost £500", "much nicer", "something". Please show us all a "much nicer" vehicle (obviously has to have independent rear suspension to just match the Superb), which you can get for your £472, which has to include any deposit, fuel and tax. Even with no deposit, £180 tax and 50mpg at today's fuel prices, you're looking at £307 pcm, £0 deposit. Multi link rear suspension. Please show.

addey

1,329 posts

196 months

Yesterday (13:28)
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Huzzah said:
5lab said:
you'll probably spend most of the asking price in fuel and tax every year. 10,000 miles at 25mpg is over £3200, and tax what, £800 a year? that's £17k over 3 years, or almost £500 a month, which would get you something much nicer.

Edited by 5lab on Monday 28th September 12:39
I'm struggling with the maths.
No, I think it's 5lab that's struggling with the maths wink



Augustus Windsock

3,791 posts

184 months

Yesterday (13:32)
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addey said:
Huzzah said:
5lab said:
you'll probably spend most of the asking price in fuel and tax every year. 10,000 miles at 25mpg is over £3200, and tax what, £800 a year? that's £17k over 3 years, or almost £500 a month, which would get you something much nicer.

Edited by 5lab on Monday 28th September 12:39
I'm struggling with the maths.
No, I think it's 5lab that's struggling with the maths wink
As I say when talking about my wife, I don’t struggle, I give in gracefully..

WPA

14,682 posts

143 months

Yesterday (13:45)
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CMTMB said:
DaveCWK said:
What's the downside?
I'm struggling to see the appeal tbh.

Not particularly quick, not particularly luxurious, terrible MPG, £800 year tax (and rising).

It's quite a lot of expense for a fruity engine note.
+1

Lotobear

9,066 posts

157 months

Yesterday (13:45)
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An interesting curiosity.

I had one of these in Elegance trim, albeit the 180bhp diesel and it was a lovely thing with an almost limo feel to it. I could get 3 MTB's in the back - vertical with the front wheels off. The Columbus sat nav was brilliant.

However not sure I could stomach the tax and fuel bill on this - a later model 280 would be a much better bet.

mmm-five

12,362 posts

313 months

Yesterday (13:58)
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Huzzah said:
I'm struggling with the maths.
I think the £17k includes the purchase price (so £9600 fuel + £2400 VED + £5000 purchase price).

I ran my Corrado VR6 (2.9L, 27mpg average) for 140,000 miles and 25,000+ per year, plus trackdays.

I did the same sort of mileage in my e34 M5 (S38 3.8L, 24mpg average), and my Z4MC (S54 3.2L, 27mpg average), and scheduled maintenance on the latter 2 would easily add another £1800/year. Luckily some of it was covered by business mileage reimbursement and/or expenses.

Edited by mmm-five on Monday 28th September 14:02

Type R Tom

4,317 posts

178 months

Yesterday (14:04)
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I was temped by these about 4-5 years ago. I couldn't get my head around the running costs, MPG + VED vs BHP seemed off too me.

Ultimately went with an imported V60 T6 which has much lower tax and much more power, although at times going camping the extra space in would have been nice.

NGK210

4,989 posts

174 months

Yesterday (14:55)
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That is handsome. An alt’ 5-series Touring, replete with Alpina-esque rims, which has a distinct wealth whisperer vibe. Niiiice.

Re. running costs: imho there’s much to be said for a ‘simple’ n/a engine that has a decent history vs. a similar mileage turbo with its inevitable age-related expense and faffage – eg, boost leaks, failing sensors, etc, etc.

Could be a useful rural runabout – it’s Haldex AWD, right? – with all that cabin / stowage space in a car that’s a B-road-friendly 1817mm wide.

Rather this Superb than the multi-owner shagged and fugly SUV that’d be avlbl for similar money.

Needs a black helm, mind. This is the Way.

tigger1

8,469 posts

250 months

Yesterday (15:33)
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Amazing how across PH anything EV is ridiculed as "boring" - but as soon as a genuinely interestingly engined ICE car comes along, it's too expensive to run, and slow.

In no world is a 260bhp Superb slow, and a V6 is a dying breed.

Still, would I have one over a nearly new Octavia VRS (boring 4 pot or not) which will cost a lot less than £17k over 3 years, no.

DeejRC

9,607 posts

111 months

Yesterday (15:40)
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Legendary drawl of the VR6…say what?
Who on earth ever said: gosh my VW sounds good?!

CMTMB

1,942 posts

24 months

Yesterday (15:46)
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tigger1 said:
Amazing how across PH anything EV is ridiculed as "boring" - but as soon as a genuinely interestingly engined ICE car comes along, it's too expensive to run, and slow.

In no world is a 260bhp Superb slow, and a V6 is a dying breed.

Still, would I have one over a nearly new Octavia VRS (boring 4 pot or not) which will cost a lot less than £17k over 3 years, no.
I don't think anyone called it slow?