RE: Shed of the Week | Jaguar S-Type 3.0 V6
RE: Shed of the Week | Jaguar S-Type 3.0 V6
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Shed of the Week | Jaguar S-Type 3.0 V6

Six cylinders in an S-Type is not unusual; three pedals is...


Now that Autumn is here, Shed is having to clean out the gutters on his workshop. Normally he does this by standing in the bucket of his vintage Ruston-Bucyrus excavator and getting Mrs Shed to hoist him up to the right height. 

Needless to say this operation hasn’t always gone well, so this year he is going old school and using his granddad’s hickory ladder for the job. That’s not ideal either as some of the rungs are rotten and he’s too mean to replace them. Instead he puts his faith in a landing zone stack of exhausted old mattresses, which are always in plentiful supply around the back of the Shed household. 

What’s all this got to do with this week’s Shed? Well, not much other than the fact that it’s a manual S-Type Jag, or to be precise (according to the AI ad) a 3.0 V6 Patrol with a six-speed manual - hmm. A manual Jag is a bit like Shed’s wooden ladder. Why go down (or up) that route when other far more suitable automatic Jag alternatives are available, such as Shed’s XJS V12 3-speed auto which will run from 5mph all the way to its maximum speed of 150mph in top gear. So he says anyway. 

Others say that the five-speed manual S-Type offers a different and not unpleasant sort of driving experience. The Getrag 221’s gear lever action wasn’t what you’d call snicky. Long throw and slightly ponderous would be a more accurate description, but on the plus side the box was pretty robust and the rear-drive handling was far sharper than the Arfur Daley styling might suggest. If it was poorly maintained the 240hp Duratec V6 could explode, but when it wasn’t doing that it would push the S-Type through the 0-60mph run in 6.9sec, compared to the auto’s 7.6sec. Great turning circle on these too. 

Rust in the sills behind the plastic covers, in the rear arches and the subframes can and will kill an S-Type. To be fair to this example there’s been no mention of corrosion at any point in its MOT history. The rather nice non-gold/beige/light blue paint still looks deep and well cared for. 

Boot floors are vulnerable to water ingress and suspension parts wear out at a higher rate on early cars, which this one is (year one in fact). To partially make up for that, pre-’02 cars had proper, non-electronic handbrakes. Coolant-related parts break and coils/plugs can play up along with windows, central locking systems and climate control blend motors. Nothing has been said about any faults with the DSC Dynamic Stability Control, which is handy as you can get talked into a big repair bill to mend that if you don’t know about the £30 wheel speed sensor fix. 

Some oil leaks have been noticed by the tester – usually hardened valve cover gaskets and oil cooler seals – but not since 2013, at which point the car had racked up 53,000 miles. Now it stands at 77,000, representing an annual average of under 3,000. The only advisories on May’s test were for light cloudiness on one headlamp and slightly worn brake discs all round. A full set of replacements and pads will cost you around £145.

This car has been for sale for four months, reflecting the general hatred for S-Types, but maybe it’s time to view this Jag in a kinder light. The VED on pre-2001 cars is determined by engine size, which puts this one at £375 a year, about half what you’ll pay for a similarly pokey post-’01 car. 

Then there’s the rarity. Shed did find a manual 3.0 S-Type for sale six years ago but they’re not common now. Shed could only see two others for sale in the UK, both of them more expensive than this £1990 one. Quite a few S-Type advertisers will put ‘manual’ in the description to get your attention, but when you investigate further it turns out to be a fib. This one’s in Windsor, which feels like a step up on Keighley, but of course you should never assume that wrong ‘uns don’t live in posh postcodes.

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wistec1

Original Poster:

813 posts

72 months

Count me in the general hatred camp for this weeks offering .There are no doubt many reasons why it has been advertised for several months and the risk of turd on ones fingers is a risky prospect.


Edited by wistec1 on Friday 13th November 07:52

TonyMac

62 posts

77 months

Smoked around for a while in a £600 diesel one of these. Lovely old car but by god it could throw a new and exciting bill on the regular. It never let me down but the cost involved in keeping it on the road was astronomical.

SteveV8miller

29 posts

12 months

I had a 2006 6 speed manual 2.7. The manual was a joy and the engine was pretty smooth. Ergonomically the car was poor and even with a light foot I never got 40mpg on my 280 mile transits between Cumbria and Berkshire, still a nice place to sit in when doing it. It was killed by both rust and engine electrics.

OzzyR1

6,401 posts

263 months

Bought the auto version about 10 years ago - £4,000 for a MY04, 3.0 petrol with 70K.

Had a job at the time which required going from Essex to Nottm 3x a week and it fitted the bill.
Did 40K miles in it over 24months before the gearbox ate itself.

Positives: Best seats I've ever had in a car - like sitting in an armchair. Also surprisingly quick for it's engine size/age.

Negatives: Everything else.


Billy_Whizzzz

2,674 posts

174 months

Worst car ever made?

rplo08

35 posts

115 months

Did a wacky rally around Europe in a £1500 one of these. Good fun but gear box was smoked after four days of lively driving. Good fun Jaaaaaaag but not a daily runner I think.

Motormouth88

804 posts

91 months

Billy_Whizzzz said:
Worst car ever made?
Probably not, though definitely up there snapping on the heels

Andy86GT

1,220 posts

96 months

I'm surprised there's any left, Rocketeer must be eyeing up any with decent low mileage engines.
I was at the MR2 / Toyota owners club meet, my friend turned up in his Camry V6 ... I think he was lucky to leave with his engine still in place.. apparently it's a relatively easy swap hehe

el romeral

2,263 posts

168 months

Well cared for shed. Great engine and unusually low VED. I like the colour outside but the light wood on the interior is a bit challenging. Overall, it looks good for 2 grand.

Edited by el romeral on Friday 13th November 07:14

FrankandLynn

98 posts

24 months

Other manufacturers did a better job of the retro/pastiche period of design and, after reading the long list of potential likely failure areas, it’s a solid no. Never really warmed to this model, ever.

cobra kid

5,627 posts

271 months

Seeing Ford Mondeo all over the interior doesn't help the cause.

POIDH

3,893 posts

96 months

I mean, it's cheap to buy for some plushness.
But it's a no from me on taking the bork risk.

Rob 131 Sport

4,976 posts

83 months

el romeral said:
Well cared for shed. Great engine and unusually low VED. I like the colour outside but the light wood on the interior is a bit challenging. Overall, it looks good for 2 grand.

Edited by el romeral on Friday 13th November 07:14
I agree. Would make an interesting car.

Andy86GT

1,220 posts

96 months

FrankandLynn said:
Other manufacturers did a better job of the retro/pastiche period of design and, after reading the long list of potential likely failure areas, it s a solid no. Never really warmed to this model, ever.
Very true, it was around this time the Mustang and Challenger appeared, both very nice retro designs.
The grill especially on the S-Type looks very incongruous.

pb8g09

3,295 posts

100 months

Proper horrid interior. Like sitting inside an old hearing aid.

AC43

13,702 posts

239 months

Back in the early 00s I had a serious think about buying a mate's S Type R but ended up in a C43. I was tempted by the power of the Jag but the Merc was easier on the eye.

If it had been a few years later I'd have been far more tempted by the XFR. Similar underneath, great looking up top.

Halmyre

12,686 posts

170 months

Nice colour, reminiscent of Ecurie Ecosse's "flag metallic blue".

Nothing else is nice. At least it doesn't have a leaper.

Watcher of the skies

1,375 posts

68 months

The condition of the steering wheel and gear lever suggest that it's done considerably more than 77000 miles.

cerb4.5lee

45,260 posts

211 months

I've never liked the way these look, but I definitely can get onboard with the manual gearbox and V6 combo though. cool

I really liked that combo in both my old Mondeo ST24 and Mondeo V6 Ghia X as well for example(and both my Sierra XR4x4's come to that). driving

That also probably explains why I still have the manual and V6 combo in my 370Z as well. smile

jiggawhat2k

255 posts

149 months

My parents had a baby blue metallic one when they first came out. Always thought it was a nice place to be, good seats, I drove it a few times and the engine was lively enough at the time (although an auto 2.5 I think). Not a bad shed overall