Driving test routes
Discussion
I'm not sure if they're currently online anywhere, but there are several archived versions of the internet out there that might help you.
Alternatively, it might be best to wait until your young'un is capable of driving on any road, not just a few. I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but that's the whole point of the recent 'independent driving' revisions to the test.
Alternatively, it might be best to wait until your young'un is capable of driving on any road, not just a few. I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but that's the whole point of the recent 'independent driving' revisions to the test.
I heard that as of today the examiner is only giving minor directions. Theres going to be more emphasis on the learner being able to read the roadsigns & drive correctly at the same time. So no more being what lane to be in etc, there was a thread about it in general gassing or speed plod and the law
OMNIO said:
HellDiver said:
If she needs to "practice" a certain route, then she's not fit to be on the road IMHO.
If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
Oh come off it! Thats like saying if she needs to revise before an exam she doesnt deserve to sit it. If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
Skylinecrazy said:
OMNIO said:
HellDiver said:
If she needs to "practice" a certain route, then she's not fit to be on the road IMHO.
If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
Oh come off it! Thats like saying if she needs to revise before an exam she doesnt deserve to sit it. If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
OMNIO said:
Skylinecrazy said:
OMNIO said:
HellDiver said:
If she needs to "practice" a certain route, then she's not fit to be on the road IMHO.
If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
Oh come off it! Thats like saying if she needs to revise before an exam she doesnt deserve to sit it. If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
A driver that's ready to pass should be able to drive anywhere, at anytime, not just a specific route.
We just want her to be familiar with the kinds of roads and junctions that she might come across in the test.
You will be nervous in the test because it is a "test" so we want her to concentrate on her driving and not where she might go.
She is a PHers daughter so it will bring collective shame to us all if she fails and some Rover 214 driver who wears a hat's daughter passes firts time because they learnt all 12 Reigate routes.
We were all learners once so I don't think there is any need for "If she can't drive anywhere she shouldn't be on the road"
Thanks
Ex77
You will be nervous in the test because it is a "test" so we want her to concentrate on her driving and not where she might go.
She is a PHers daughter so it will bring collective shame to us all if she fails and some Rover 214 driver who wears a hat's daughter passes firts time because they learnt all 12 Reigate routes.
We were all learners once so I don't think there is any need for "If she can't drive anywhere she shouldn't be on the road"
Thanks
Ex77
Chris_w666 said:
The Major said:
personally i think the new test where the driver/learner has to drive without instruction is b
ks, i cant remember a route when people tell it to me, thats what sat navs are for.
You are exactly the kind of numpty the roads would be better off without. ks, i cant remember a route when people tell it to me, thats what sat navs are for.k i am, i've been driving around for over a year now just can never remember directions. so cause i've got a bad memory i shouldn't be driving. nice one mate.Exige77 said:
We just want her to be familiar with the kinds of roads and junctions that she might come across in the test.
You will be nervous in the test because it is a "test" so we want her to concentrate on her driving and not where she might go.
She is a PHers daughter so it will bring collective shame to us all if she fails and some Rover 214 driver who wears a hat's daughter passes firts time because they learnt all 12 Reigate routes.
We were all learners once so I don't think there is any need for "If she can't drive anywhere she shouldn't be on the road"
Thanks
Ex77
I;m not saying that, but how does she know which route will be selected? You will be nervous in the test because it is a "test" so we want her to concentrate on her driving and not where she might go.
She is a PHers daughter so it will bring collective shame to us all if she fails and some Rover 214 driver who wears a hat's daughter passes firts time because they learnt all 12 Reigate routes.
We were all learners once so I don't think there is any need for "If she can't drive anywhere she shouldn't be on the road"
Thanks
Ex77
I only passed my test last year and it's probably the most nerve racking experience I've ever had. But there was about 40-50 routes to choose from.
In the end I went somewhere I never covered in my lessons, going totally off the beaten track. She has to prepare for near enough anything, not specific routes.
Edited by Skylinecrazy on Monday 4th October 15:03
The Major said:
Chris_w666 said:
The Major said:
personally i think the new test where the driver/learner has to drive without instruction is bks, i cant remember a route when people tell it to me, thats what sat navs are for.
You are exactly the kind of numpty the roads would be better off without. ks, i cant remember a route when people tell it to me, thats what sat navs are for.k i am, i've been driving around for over a year now just can never remember directions. so cause i've got a bad memory i shouldn't be driving. nice one mate.ks after driving for a year then you are almost certainly pretty crap.Skylinecrazy said:
OMNIO said:
Skylinecrazy said:
OMNIO said:
HellDiver said:
If she needs to "practice" a certain route, then she's not fit to be on the road IMHO.
If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
Oh come off it! Thats like saying if she needs to revise before an exam she doesnt deserve to sit it. If she's competant, then she should be able to drive anywhere.
A driver that's ready to pass should be able to drive anywhere, at anytime, not just a specific route.
My driving instructor taught me around an area (admittedly a large area) which was close to his, and my home. Within this area there were all kinds of roads and conditions; DCs, one way systems, all kinds of roundabouts, tight urban areas, country roads only 10 minutes away, but he never told me much about the test routes.
When I enquired about them, he simply said "There are so many different ones you couldn't learn them all, but when you are ready for your test, you could take it on unseen roads in a whole new city and you'd still pass", and that is absolutely true. One driving school, who I shall not name (though they have a penchant for teaching in Fiat 500s...) are notorious around here for test routing - literally driving their students around the most popular test routes of the test centre the student will use, again and again until the lesson is over. My instructor thankfully stayed well away from this, and I am glad to say the least.
A lot of my friends passed their tests in a sleepy, traffic-light town centre out in the sticks a bit, so their tests mainly consisted of DC and emptyish NSL roads, very light on hazards and with sightlines for miles; even the dopiest of them could see the tractor approaching the junction 3/4 mile down the road etc. However, when these guys, many of whom deliberately used instructors working around this quiet area to ensure it was easy to pass the test, had to drive in a city centre or anything more confined and urban than they were used to they went to pieces. Not used to having cars either side of them on roundabouts, taxi drivers cutting them up, pedestrians everywhere stepping into the road, parked cars pulling away etc, all classic cases of learning the routes and not learning to drive.
I never had this problem, because I was used to urban driving a long time before I took my test, but thankfully I had the knowledge and experience of country driving to not travel inappropriately there too. I was taught to observe, plan and adapt my driving based on what I could see, not what I could expect. Anticipation is a key skill in advanced driving, but it is second only to observation. Drilling test routes into learners only reinforces reliance on memory and anticipation in the wrong way, and is counterproductive in making safe, competent drivers. My instructor would often say "You might see this junction on your test" etc, but we never did a dry run of any of the test routes. I never even saw the test centre until the morning of my test, but when I arrived, other instructors were parking up and starting mock tests with their students. Imo, this is part of the reason that drivers who can pass the test then go on to drive so appallingly as soon as they leave their familiar road loop.
When I enquired about them, he simply said "There are so many different ones you couldn't learn them all, but when you are ready for your test, you could take it on unseen roads in a whole new city and you'd still pass", and that is absolutely true. One driving school, who I shall not name (though they have a penchant for teaching in Fiat 500s...) are notorious around here for test routing - literally driving their students around the most popular test routes of the test centre the student will use, again and again until the lesson is over. My instructor thankfully stayed well away from this, and I am glad to say the least.
A lot of my friends passed their tests in a sleepy, traffic-light town centre out in the sticks a bit, so their tests mainly consisted of DC and emptyish NSL roads, very light on hazards and with sightlines for miles; even the dopiest of them could see the tractor approaching the junction 3/4 mile down the road etc. However, when these guys, many of whom deliberately used instructors working around this quiet area to ensure it was easy to pass the test, had to drive in a city centre or anything more confined and urban than they were used to they went to pieces. Not used to having cars either side of them on roundabouts, taxi drivers cutting them up, pedestrians everywhere stepping into the road, parked cars pulling away etc, all classic cases of learning the routes and not learning to drive.
I never had this problem, because I was used to urban driving a long time before I took my test, but thankfully I had the knowledge and experience of country driving to not travel inappropriately there too. I was taught to observe, plan and adapt my driving based on what I could see, not what I could expect. Anticipation is a key skill in advanced driving, but it is second only to observation. Drilling test routes into learners only reinforces reliance on memory and anticipation in the wrong way, and is counterproductive in making safe, competent drivers. My instructor would often say "You might see this junction on your test" etc, but we never did a dry run of any of the test routes. I never even saw the test centre until the morning of my test, but when I arrived, other instructors were parking up and starting mock tests with their students. Imo, this is part of the reason that drivers who can pass the test then go on to drive so appallingly as soon as they leave their familiar road loop.
The Major said:
Chris_w666 said:
The Major said:
personally i think the new test where the driver/learner has to drive without instruction is bks, i cant remember a route when people tell it to me, thats what sat navs are for.
You are exactly the kind of numpty the roads would be better off without. ks, i cant remember a route when people tell it to me, thats what sat navs are for.k i am, i've been driving around for over a year now just can never remember directions. so cause i've got a bad memory i shouldn't be driving. nice one mate.Oh and how will you ever survive one of these?
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