Fuel rise in April looking likely - 4 pence per litre
Fuel rise in April looking likely - 4 pence per litre
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MJK 24

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5,670 posts

257 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Scuffers

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295 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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read that, can't see how the BBC have arrived at 4p?



Edited by Scuffers on Saturday 22 January 12:57

Smike

24,095 posts

224 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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MJK 24 said:
Any truth in the actual number of litres being sold isd decreasing at present? I would imagine a lot of 'leisure' petrol/diesel is being scrutinized by users.
If so, an extra 18p per gallon might mean the volume falls further...leading to an increase in price to recoup the shortfall?

MJK 24

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5,670 posts

257 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Scuffers said:
read that, can't see how the BBC have arrived at 4p?



Edited by Scuffers on Saturday 22 January 12:57
Supposed to be a firm 1p increase but the BBC are saying with inflation being stated at 3.5%, it will result in a 4p increase at the pumps.

I didn't know a fuel duty increase was to be inflation linked though.

crofty1984

16,736 posts

225 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Smike said:
MJK 24 said:
Any truth in the actual number of litres being sold isd decreasing at present? I would imagine a lot of 'leisure' petrol/diesel is being scrutinized by users.
If so, an extra 18p per gallon might mean the volume falls further...leading to an increase in price to recoup the shortfall?
wow, it's as if the government have whipped out a big, veiny purple-headed johnson and is fking the motorist in the bumhole with it. Sexually.

Carfiend

3,186 posts

230 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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More depressing was the green idiot on BBC news this morning saying he supported a "fuel duty escalator" that would put fuel duty up above inflation every year so we would stop using oil. Sounds a lot like what happens now anyway but he had one of those moron brainwashed greenie voices... He was pushing my button... I just wanted to beat him.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

207 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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S, S, S, S!!

lescombes

968 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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MJK 24 said:
I didn't know a fuel duty increase was to be inflation linked though.
Osborne said it would be in the Tories October spending rip off...... ooops review

750turbo

6,164 posts

245 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Carfiend said:
More depressing was the green idiot on BBC news this morning saying he supported a "fuel duty escalator" that would put fuel duty up above inflation every year so we would stop using oil. Sounds a lot like what happens now anyway but he had one of those moron brainwashed greenie voices... He was pushing my button... I just wanted to beat him.
I had to turn off, absolute piss boiler.

Something just has to be done, we are being raped! I realise the country is in the st, but why does it seem that the motorist is the hardest hit....

Oh, I know, easy bloody target frown

ralphrj

3,912 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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crofty1984 said:
Smike said:
MJK 24 said:
Any truth in the actual number of litres being sold isd decreasing at present? I would imagine a lot of 'leisure' petrol/diesel is being scrutinized by users.
If so, an extra 18p per gallon might mean the volume falls further...leading to an increase in price to recoup the shortfall?
wow, it's as if the government have whipped out a big, veiny purple-headed johnson and is fking the motorist in the bumhole with it. Sexually.
To be accurate it is the previous government that is still fking the motorist.

The October 2010, January 2011, April 2011, April 2012, April 2013 and April 2014 increases in fuel duty were in Alistair Darling's pre-election budget and passed by parliament 4 days before the election was called.

The current government can only block these duty rises if they either raise other taxes to replace the income, make further cuts to public expenditure or throw the plan to reduce the deficit out the window and increase borrowing.

Fittster

20,120 posts

234 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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"Mr Cameron announced the fair fuel price stabiliser weeks before the General Election last year, when petrol prices stood at a then record of £1.20 a litre. At the time he said he recognised that many people had no choice but to use their car.

Fuel hardy: Mr Cameron said the cost of filling up a car was 'incredibly painful for families up and down the country'
The policy was shelved after the forming of the Coalition, but last week Mr Cameron revealed that the Treasury had been asked to look at the proposal as a possible idea for the Budget.
At a public question and answer session in Leicester, he said: ‘We’re looking at that. It’s not an easy thing to put in place, but I would like to try and find some way of sharing the risk of higher fuel prices with the consumer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345624/Pe...

Scum bag politician proves to be no better than last PM shocker.

Randy Winkman

20,257 posts

210 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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ralphrj said:
crofty1984 said:
Smike said:
MJK 24 said:
Any truth in the actual number of litres being sold isd decreasing at present? I would imagine a lot of 'leisure' petrol/diesel is being scrutinized by users.
If so, an extra 18p per gallon might mean the volume falls further...leading to an increase in price to recoup the shortfall?
wow, it's as if the government have whipped out a big, veiny purple-headed johnson and is fking the motorist in the bumhole with it. Sexually.
To be accurate it is the previous government that is still fking the motorist.

The October 2010, January 2011, April 2011, April 2012, April 2013 and April 2014 increases in fuel duty were in Alistair Darling's pre-election budget and passed by parliament 4 days before the election was called.

The current government can only block these duty rises if they either raise other taxes to replace the income, make further cuts to public expenditure or throw the plan to reduce the deficit out the window and increase borrowing.
Nonsense - so you honestly believe the the current Government cant change these plans?

ralphrj

3,912 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Randy Winkman said:
ralphrj said:
crofty1984 said:
Smike said:
MJK 24 said:
Any truth in the actual number of litres being sold isd decreasing at present? I would imagine a lot of 'leisure' petrol/diesel is being scrutinized by users.
If so, an extra 18p per gallon might mean the volume falls further...leading to an increase in price to recoup the shortfall?
wow, it's as if the government have whipped out a big, veiny purple-headed johnson and is fking the motorist in the bumhole with it. Sexually.
To be accurate it is the previous government that is still fking the motorist.

The October 2010, January 2011, April 2011, April 2012, April 2013 and April 2014 increases in fuel duty were in Alistair Darling's pre-election budget and passed by parliament 4 days before the election was called.

The current government can only block these duty rises if they either raise other taxes to replace the income, make further cuts to public expenditure or throw the plan to reduce the deficit out the window and increase borrowing.
Nonsense - so you honestly believe the the current Government cant change these plans?
I didn't say they couldn't. I said that if they did they would have to account for the loss of income somehow.

The fuel duty rise is on the statute books and forms part of the governments forecast income in future years. As a result of this the government will have committed to spend money on various programmes knowing that they have the income to pay for it. If the fuel duty rise is cancelled then as I said above the government will have to either or all of:

1. raise other taxes to cover the shortfall in revenue,
2. make further public spending cuts
3. increase the amount the government borrows when they were previously planning to reduce it

Pageo

75 posts

192 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Im Just waiting for the goverment to say 'oh s**t our economy is falling again' has any one of them got a brain cell installed to tell them that the price of petrol is whats causing the inflation. I know they can't control the oil price but I would rather they tax fags and booze to death if they need the money.

60p fuel duty with 12p VAT which brings it up to 72p then add the oil price and fourcourt profit grrrr

What we need is major protests which i feel is going to happen, saying that i have noticed the roads are a little quieter, useless fact i know.

anonymous-user

75 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Surely you must have known this was coming??? How else will the government(which ever one is in power) afford it's promises??? Rape the motorist, every time. Oh, and if you think a fuel protest will work, then think again, because it wont. This government, the last one and each adminsistration after this one will continue to shaft the motorist, and there is nothing we can do about it.

And when the motorist has been forced off the road, then they will target your wages and public transport costs until such time as everyone is unemployed and living on the street. Then they will pass control to the muslims, and blame them for the downfall of britain.

Pageo

75 posts

192 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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we knew it was coming but what rattles my cage is we are still splashing out £60bn+ on the EU + foreign aid etc. If the goverment put a stop to that ( which they won't) then we wouldn't have to have these rises! Obvously the defecit would still be in the red but it would reduce the pain.

My logic would be to tax all the lorries that come through Dover/Portsmouth to raise money and to give the UK companies a chance. Maybe that could prevent a fuel duty rise for a little while at least?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

295 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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not excusing the politicians, but consider that the price of oil has been higher than it is currently, yet petrol is at record highs, so, somewhere, the oil supply industry is making more margin.

currently, brent is ~$97.5, back between December 2007 and September 2008 oil was over this (peaking at ~$144 in June 2008)

side point, if you consider that BP had to basically hand over $20B to the US, they will be trying to get this back somehow....

Edited by Scuffers on Saturday 22 January 13:51

anonymous-user

75 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Pageo said:
we knew it was coming but what rattles my cage is we are still splashing out £60bn+ on the EU + foreign aid etc. If the goverment put a stop to that ( which they won't) then we wouldn't have to have these rises! Obvously the defecit would still be in the red but it would reduce the pain.

My logic would be to tax all the lorries that come through Dover/Portsmouth to raise money and to give the UK companies a chance. Maybe that could prevent a fuel duty rise for a little while at least?
The governemnt cant put a stop to the EU funding, or the foreign aid, as tony blair tied us into those deals, and we cant get out for about another 10 years or so. Oh, and taxing the lorries is a good start, but my option would be, if you come here expecting an easy life, then you pay 95% tax, if you come here and work, like some do, then 25% tax, and anyone coming into this country who isnt born here, pays for their NHS treatment. Obviously those already here for a long time, arrived in the 60's etc, thats a bit difficult to legislate for, but the current bunch of scrounging bast's, can pay through the nose, even if they are on the damn dole. Oh, and get rid of the human rights act too, so they can't hide behind that.

petrolsniffer

2,529 posts

195 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Pageo said:
we knew it was coming but what rattles my cage is we are still splashing out £60bn+ on the EU + foreign aid etc.
There needs to be a Referendum on both didn't cameron mention it in the run up to the election another u-turn no doubt rolleyes

anonymous-user

75 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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petrolsniffer said:
Pageo said:
we knew it was coming but what rattles my cage is we are still splashing out £60bn+ on the EU + foreign aid etc.
There needs to be a Referendum on both didn't cameron mention it in the run up to the election another u-turn no doubt rolleyes
More than likely, but surely you must know all politicians are blatant liars??