RE: Opel Manta 400: Spotted
RE: Opel Manta 400: Spotted
Saturday 15th September 2018

Opel Manta 400: Spotted

Group B heroes don't come cheap, and this Manta is no exception. Still, with right-hand drive, you won't find another like it.



Hands up if you know where the front indicators in the Opel Manta 400 come from. Go on, have a guess. That's right, you spotted it: they're actually the bumper-mounted units from the Mk3 Ford Capri - ironically, the Manta's chief rival in period.

This little nugget of trivia might just be the least interesting thing about the Manta 400. So much for the classic journalistic methodology of starting with the most important points, eh? Still, we're off and running, however shakily, so without further ado let's get to the more salient point about this rather terrific car, which is that there's one for sale in the classifieds - and it's right-hand drive.


As you'll probably be aware, all 245 Manta 400s were originally left-hookers. They were built in order to homologate the Group B rally version of the 400, which took part in the World Rally Championship from 1983 to 1986. Both cars featured a 2.4-litre 16v four pot, turbocharged of course; in competition form, this was ostensibly rated at 275hp, though road-going cars like this one were pegged back to a less ballistic - for the time, anyway - 144hp.

0-62mph came up in just shy of seven seconds - the sort of figure, in other words, that sounds like it was pitted directly against the Ford Capri 2.8 Injection. But the Manta 400 was a rather different animal, closer in spirit to the Sierra RS Cosworth which came along a couple of years later. It was stiffly sprung, with Bilstein dampers, giving it a far racier feel than its grand-touring rival, and that meant you could push on harder and monster cross-country blats, easily leaving the boy racer in his Capri behind.


Inside, though, the Manta was no out-and-out racer. Oh, sure, you got Recaro seats, but they were trimmed in plush velour - with, it shouldn't be forgotten, a truly fantastic repeating Opel logo pattern the like of which you simply don't get these days. You also get a handsome leather-rimmed wheel and a stereo radio cassette - more than enough to make driving the 400 a comfortable affair.

This example, however, is a little different to the rest on account of the location of its steering wheel. According to the advert, it was originally owned by Tony Fall, then the director of the Opel Motorsport Team, who imported it to the UK and had it converted to right-hand drive, which explains it. Of course, that does beg the question of which bits were used for the conversion and whether it'll still drive as Opel intended, but as the conversion was supposedly carried out by a Vauxhall dealership, rather than being a hack-job done in someone's garage, and commissioned by the then-boss of the company's world rally team, you'd hope it's about as good as it's likely to get. But there's a bigger issue at hand - and that's the price.


£84,995 is a frankly terrifying amount of money for this Manta. Is it worth it? Well, on the one hand, as we all know, RS500 Cosworths - similar in nature and rarity - are now commanding sums that aren't too dissimilar, and on some occasions higher. After all, this car hasn't even ticked over to 30,000 miles yet - and with its provenance, it's no exaggeration to say it's unique. On the other hand, the RS500 was quite a bit more powerful, achieved quite a bit more in competition, and is much more of a hallowed icon, in the UK at least. Throw in the fact that this very car sold at auction for £50,600 in December last year, and it starts to feel very pricey indeed.

Still, if you fancy a 1980s homologation hero that isn't one of the usual suspects, it's up there. And even if you aren't willing to part with the sort of money being asked, take a moment to ogle that fantastic bodykit, those terrific seats and those glorious decals. Oh, and those front indicators, of course. At least you know where they come from now.


SPECIFICATION - OPEL MANTA 400

Engine: 2,410cc, 4-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 144@5,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 155@3,800rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1984
Recorded mileage: 29,000
Price new: £12,000
Yours for: £84,995

See the original advert here.




 

 

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Gus265

Original Poster:

271 posts

163 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Very cool car - crazy price! Tony Fall might have been the head of Opel Motorsport but let’s not forget he was also a very successful rally driver for BMC in the 60s driving the Mini Coopers in the team with Hopkirk and Aaltonen etc!! Probably another reason for the price hike.

Turbobanana

8,476 posts

231 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Is it the same one that sold for £50,600 a couple of months back?

Healthy margin...

MalcolmSmith

3,059 posts

105 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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I do like that, but its strong money.

olly755

3,070 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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“turbocharged of course”

Erm...

vimfuegoturbo

33 posts

195 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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I thought the Opel Manta 400 was normally aspirated??

Can’t see a turbo in the underbonnet pictures either...

Athlon

5,925 posts

236 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Turbo...of course it was laugh

So many unique and cool things about 400's and you pick up on the seat cloth....shoddy way to treat a legend of the British rally championship.

Edit to add it was imported by Fall and converted by the first owner, did Mr Fall not show as the importer for all the competition cars through Vauxhall Dealer Sport? Some of the works competition cars were RHD as well.

Edited by Athlon on Saturday 15th September 08:44

AMGSee55

687 posts

132 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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vimfuegoturbo said:
I thought the Opel Manta 400 was normally aspirated??

Can’t see a turbo in the underbonnet pictures either...
Pretty sure it was NA too...?? Love your PH name btw!
“Don’t forget to get your c**k out Den”
“Don’t confuse him Spider!!!”

Am I showing my age 😉?

80sMatchbox

3,998 posts

206 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Turbobanana said:
Is it the same one that sold for £50,600 a couple of months back?

Healthy margin...
Looks like it. Wowzer.

https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/opel-manta-40...

vimfuegoturbo

33 posts

195 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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AMGSee55 said:
Pretty sure it was NA too...?? Love your PH name btw!
“Don’t forget to get your c**k out Den”
“Don’t confuse him Spider!!!”

Am I showing my age ???
You’re the first to have understood my ‘handle’! I used to own a Renault Fuego turbo too, so my love of all things ‘Bad News’ and French sofas with monstrous turbo lag kind of meddled into one...

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Turbobanana said:
Is it the same one that sold for £50,600 a couple of months back?

Healthy margin...
https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/opel-manta-400

Targa Florio. Makes 4Starclassics look like Back Street Bobs smile

Dinoboy

2,600 posts

247 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Always loved these, was just reading the original road test in Motor a couple of weeks ago while I was having a 'clear out' in the garage.

MC Bodge

29,827 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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MC Bodge

29,827 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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I wonder how these feel to drive compared with a modern "sporting" saloon car on a Manx back road?

s m

24,479 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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This would be in my lottery win garage before most other things cool

usualdog

242 posts

193 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Love it. But period or not, the steering wheel's gotta go.

rtz62

3,801 posts

185 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Ridiculous price and mark up.
I’m sure I’ve read several articles about these in recent years whereby the road tester was asked not to extend the engine too much as they are ‘made of chocolate’?
Can’t imagine engine spares are that easy to come by and ergo they won’t be cheap.
But I still can’t get over the markup since the thing passed through the classic car auction, surely whoever was interested in the purchase of one would have bid back then, rather than sitting tight and getting filched for another £30-35k.
And compared to a Cosworth I’d suggest the market for one of these is very limited...

JMF894

6,624 posts

185 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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What an utter piss take, nicecar or not.

s m

24,479 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Dinoboy said:
Always loved these, was just reading the original road test in Motor a couple of weeks ago while I was having a 'clear out' in the garage.
Remember the John Miles articles as well



They did the Ascona 400 as well

Plus you could get the pokier i240 from ST cars as well

Great cars

s m

24,479 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Deceptively deep and roomy boot as well - used to pick my parents up from the airport in mine and cases used to fit easily in boot ( spare stood up in the boot it was so deep compared to a shallow E30 BMW boot )

J4CKO

46,933 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Wow, thats a lot of money, even normal ones are expensive now, I think they look great but I had a normal 86 2.0 GTE and dynamically it was rubbish and not that fast, always thought the 400 had way more power than 140 bhp though.