RE: De Tomaso P72 unveiled at Goodwood
RE: De Tomaso P72 unveiled at Goodwood
Tuesday 29th October 2019

New De Tomaso P72 to get Roush V8

Apollo underpinnings and Ford power - De Tomaso's new model is coming together nicely



Even amongst the record number of debuts at last summer's Festival of Speed, the new De Tomaso P72 managed to stand out. With its stunning flowing lines and retro aesthetic it caused as much of a stir on the PH forums as it did on the Goodwood lawn. Based on the same platform as the upcoming Apollo IE - also produced by Hong Kong-based IdealVenture - the throwback styling is a nod to the even prettier De Tomaso P70 of 1965.

But looks aren't the only thing that the two cars now share. De Tomaso has today announced that, just like its forebear, the P72 will draw its power from a 5.0-litre Ford V8. While the '60s supercar's powerplant was fettled by Carol Shelby, however, it's another famed Ford tuner that's turned their attention to today's car.

Thanks to the team at Roush, the contemporary machine is projected to produce around 710hp and 608lb ft of torque, enough to provide it with some very modern performance stats. In order to reach that output while delivering a "smooth, linear power curve without detracting from the old-school American V8 soundtrack" and while matching "the character of a naturally aspirated engine", several innovations were needed. Foremost amongst these was an all-new supercharger, the unit said to provide greater thermal efficiency, higher operating speeds, improved airflow, less vibration and reduced noise.



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There are no specific performance figures just yet, but with so much power in such a pretty package, there'll surely be plenty of interest in seeing exactly how the car translates its incredible potential into real world pace.

Plenty of names have been dragged from the annals of history in recent years, only to be plastered across machines which, in reality, have very little in common with their supposed forebears. It might seem that the latest to jump on the bandwagon is Hong Kong-based IdealVenture, which has revealed its latest product in the form of the De Tomaso P72 at this week's Goodwood Festival of Speed.

The car is not claimed to be a continuation of the marque's lineage, or even a throwback to its iconic Pantera, but is instead intended to elicit a spiritual connection to the futuristic P70 prototype race car of the 1960s. To that end its design is inspired by both racing machines of the period and De Tomasso's own heritage, while its underpinnings are borrowed directly from the Apollo Intensa Emozione, also built by IdealVenture.


This means that the entire structure, down to the carbon fibre monocoque chassis, is constructed to Le Mans Prototype regulations, despite the plush interior appearing a considerably more hospitable environment than a true endurance racer. There's no word yet on the P72's technical specifications, though if it were to share more than just a chassis with Apollo's IE then it wouldn't be unreasonabour expectations. In the 1,250kg IE, the 780hp powerplant results in a 0-62 time of 2.7 seconds. Speaking from the car's podium beside the Goodwood Concours lawn, De Tomaso CMO Ryan Berris will only tell us that an engine partnership has been confirmed, with more details coming soon.

He also explains that the decision to relaunch the brand came about in 2014, when IdealVenture purchased the rights to the name from the Italian government. The spiritual connection to original company comes in the desire to offer cutting-edge performance, luxury and technology for a fraction of the cost of more established rivals. With 72 examples priced at £662,000 a piece set to be produced, it's hardly cheap, but for a machine with LMP credentials it could be a relative steal in comparison to the million-pound hypercars that have become commonplace on the Geneva and Frankfurt floors. As with so many aspects of this car, we'll just have to wait and see.










(Pics from Goodwood to follow, honest!)

 

 

 

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Turbobanana

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8,476 posts

231 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Lead image does it no favours: looks like it has no roof.

But that side profile... Phwoarrrr!

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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That is gorgeous.

Hitch

6,119 posts

224 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Is it real? Or should someone post up that sniff petrol new supercar press release template?

MCBrowncoat

1,774 posts

176 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Hitch said:
Is it real? Or should someone post up that sniff petrol new supercar press release template?
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSHDRG6ZDpM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQlOhYM7uY4



Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

180 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Definitely real, saw it yesterday. It looks and sounds stupendous cool (albeit I think I must have been perverted by PH a bit over the years cos all I thought about the copper wheels is "they belong in the Council thread")

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Beyond a few old men and car beards does anyone know/care about the name De Tomaso? Does it really have any cachet over the typical "made in a shed, company gone in a few years" sports cars?

LP670

910 posts

156 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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proportions look wrong, the gap from the top of the wheel arch to the fold line on the rear quarters is massive

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

180 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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dme123 said:
Beyond a few old men and car beards does anyone know/care about the name De Tomaso? Does it really have any cachet over the typical "made in a shed, company gone in a few years" sports cars?
Not if eavesdropping on the conversations around it is anything to go by frown . It was accompanied by a phalanx of Panteras, a Mangusta (one of my personal all-time favourite cars) and a Vallelunga. Hardly anyone knew what they were or could pronounce their names. The poor guy with the Vallelunga must have felt like he brought an invisible car.

But then, the clientelle at FoS is hardly from an enthusiast base nowadays. Probably some of the nouveau riche were able to get some YouTubers to google "de Tomaso" for them

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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There's some lovely, lovely design touches, and I have a soft spot for De Tomaso - I'm just not sure about the copper / rose gold everywhere. It's a bit Michael Kors in places. Overall though, quite refreshing, it pulls off the classical Le Mans prototype look quite well IMO.

E-bmw

13,505 posts

182 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Feck me that it truly butt feck ugly! vomit

Not to mention the copper/brass etc highlights. vomit

vomitvomitvomitvomitvomit

Cripes

32 posts

90 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Gruesomely over designed, what a shame.

Xcore

1,531 posts

120 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Makes a change from the constant stream of fancy pants special edition Porsche’s

unsprung

6,055 posts

154 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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The rear view has a certain 1962 redux about it. Jet Age pods or fuselage elements. Discernible, yet updated for today.

First moment that I saw the interior photos, I thought it a bit "Spyker lite" -- a Spyker for the rest of us.



Edited by unsprung on Friday 5th July 16:37

jhonn

1,702 posts

179 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I see a lot of Pagani in this, though much more 'retro' - to my eyes it already looks a bit dated and a bit too stylized, so don't think that it's going to age well.

Trying a bit too hard I think, some nice touches though.

Dave Hedgehog

16,354 posts

234 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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mother of gawd thats stunning

as chappie above says very much a Pagani feel about it, like Horatio did a modern take on the P4

romac

608 posts

176 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Hmm, nice lines and amazing copper details in the cabin. Did they headhunt Spyker's interior designer? smokin

TartanPaint

3,367 posts

169 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Another fine collection of luxury materials and interesting design and engineering details, which when all thrown together look utterly gopping and tasteless.

I'll put this one in the "popular, but I have no idea why" bin along with with Pagani and Spyker.

Jellinek

274 posts

305 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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First name down on the waiting list, a Mr D Dastardly....

jhonn

1,702 posts

179 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Once you get passed the sheer presence of it and think about the practicalities of owning and running it - can't see that the door glass would wind down. Also.. the bag in the second pic - is that the max luggage size! biggrin

vantara

424 posts

156 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Here it is at Goodwood today