Private Registration on Cat B car?
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Just wondering if anyone has ever tried it or if anyone thinks I’d be able to do it? Category B write off I would like to put a private plate on it, it’s not on a Q-Reg and I’ve now got it on the road but I don’t want to apply to put my plate on it if DVLA are going to have a fit about the car? They let me tax it and MOT it no dramas so surely they are happy with the vehicle? I’ve got an engineers report also to go with it after the repair was done. I want to try and get it off the Cat B and get it recategorised as it definitely shouldn’t have been a B; it was light rear damage! Thanks everyone!
A1VDY said:
Cat A or B is parts only, the body shell should have been crushed. Theres a good reason it was categorised B.
My insurance are aware it’s a Cat B and have approved the documents to insure it and DVLA are allowing me to tax & MOT it so? Do you not think they’d let me put a plate on it then?Dabbster said:
A1VDY said:
Cat A or B is parts only, the body shell should have been crushed. Theres a good reason it was categorised B.
My insurance are aware it’s a Cat B and have approved the documents to insure it and DVLA are allowing me to tax & MOT it so? Do you not think they’d let me put a plate on it then?If you have got this far I'd be careful applying as you could be opening a big can of worms..
A1VDY said:
Dabbster said:
A1VDY said:
Cat A or B is parts only, the body shell should have been crushed. Theres a good reason it was categorised B.
My insurance are aware it’s a Cat B and have approved the documents to insure it and DVLA are allowing me to tax & MOT it so? Do you not think they’d let me put a plate on it then?If you have got this far I'd be careful applying as you could be opening a big can of worms..
Dabbster said:
That’s what I had in mind... I don’t want it to cause grief just for a private plate. On DVLA it doesn’t state any rules regarding putting a plate on a write off which I thought it would’ve because it says you can’t put it on a Q-Plate vehicle which it isn’t. All it states is that the vehicle must be available for inspection and I’ll be contacted if they want to inspect it.. which obviously I want to avoid it being inspected in case it gets taken off me
Why would you want to avoid it being inspected? Is there something you don't want them to find / know about? If they've approved that the car can be on the road, then I'd assume you've prepared the car to be fully road worthy? Unless you've used stolen parts to repair it I don't see a problem with an inspection.Was it your car before the write off? I’m assuming that it was, as the cat B status has come up in a number of threads on PH recently.
As I understand it, the DVLA will not reissue a V5 for a cat B vehicle, meaning that you can’t sell it and register a change of keeper but there is nothing Illegal to keep on using it as the original owner before write off.
So to answer your question - No, the DVLA will not process a plate change on it as that will require a new V5 to be issued.
As I understand it, the DVLA will not reissue a V5 for a cat B vehicle, meaning that you can’t sell it and register a change of keeper but there is nothing Illegal to keep on using it as the original owner before write off.
So to answer your question - No, the DVLA will not process a plate change on it as that will require a new V5 to be issued.
Dabbster said:
My insurance are aware it’s a Cat B and have approved the documents to insure it and DVLA are allowing me to tax & MOT it so? Do you not think they’d let me put a plate on it then?
How can you tax it? You have no V5.
The V5 is now just a bit of paper.
You can't get another MOT and you can't tax it.
A Cat B can't be put back on the road anymore. There is a lot of confusion about this, but gone are the days were you can repair it and get the VIC scheme to sign off the repair so you can put it back on the road, the scheme was removed in October 2015.
There is no way that car can be driven.
You could still tax it with the v5c, however, as soon as you change keeper the dvla will not issue a new V5, you then won't be able to tax it again and you won't be able to MOT it.
Put your plate on and you will lose that as well.
When did you get this car?
This is why HPI checks are so important, I hope you haven't bought it thinking you can drive it?
Hold on, when was it a Cat B?
If it was a Cat B before October 2015 and it went through the Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) scheme before that date, then I guess it is fine.
It could well be a Cat B and fine.
Need some more details?
But if that is the case and you can genuinely go online and tax it, then putting on a private plate should be fine, just do it all online and check. But make sure it was written off and VIC'd before October 15 first.
If it was a Cat B before October 2015 and it went through the Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) scheme before that date, then I guess it is fine.
It could well be a Cat B and fine.
Need some more details?
But if that is the case and you can genuinely go online and tax it, then putting on a private plate should be fine, just do it all online and check. But make sure it was written off and VIC'd before October 15 first.
gizlaroc said:
Dabbster said:
My insurance are aware it’s a Cat B and have approved the documents to insure it and DVLA are allowing me to tax & MOT it so? Do you not think they’d let me put a plate on it then?
How will you put a plate on it with no V5? You own the car with a V5 in your name.
The car is written off but you end up with it in your possession then you still have the V5 no?
Also it seems Adrian Flux offer insurance for Category B write offs - https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/category-b-insurance/
I don't think it's "illegal" to have a Cat B , I don't think there is any official Government legislation? (Happy to be proven wrong
) As far as I was aware it's only because DVLA stopped VIC checks and ABI members agreed not to go back on the road.
xjay1337 said:
You will have a V5 though if :
You own the car with a V5 in your name.
The car is written off but you end up with it in your possession then you still have the V5 no?
Well yeah, you still have the physical piece of paper, but once it is a Cat B, and written off after October 2015, the DVLA null and void that V5 their end. You own the car with a V5 in your name.
The car is written off but you end up with it in your possession then you still have the V5 no?
Once a Cat A or B no V5 will ever be issues again now.
xjay1337 said:
I don't think it's "illegal" to have a Cat B , I don't think there is any official Government legislation? (Happy to be proven wrong )
As far as I was aware it's only because DVLA stopped VIC checks and ABI members agreed not to go back on the road.
But it is illegal to drive a car on the road with no tax or MOT and you can do neither on a car that is Cat B, again assigned Cat B after October 2015. ) As far as I was aware it's only because DVLA stopped VIC checks and ABI members agreed not to go back on the road.
Jayho said:
Dabbster said:
That’s what I had in mind... I don’t want it to cause grief just for a private plate. On DVLA it doesn’t state any rules regarding putting a plate on a write off which I thought it would’ve because it says you can’t put it on a Q-Plate vehicle which it isn’t. All it states is that the vehicle must be available for inspection and I’ll be contacted if they want to inspect it.. which obviously I want to avoid it being inspected in case it gets taken off me
Why would you want to avoid it being inspected? Is there something you don't want them to find / know about? If they've approved that the car can be on the road, then I'd assume you've prepared the car to be fully road worthy? Unless you've used stolen parts to repair it I don't see a problem with an inspection.Dabbster said:
It was a Cat B in May 2017 hence it didn’t have a VIC and I’ve taxed it no problem and it went straight through an MOT. I am insured via Adrian Flux who insure Cat B’s so to me the car is all legal? It’s taxed, MOT’d and insured!
When did you buy it? Edited by Dabbster on Tuesday 30th June 13:54
When did you transfer it into your name with the DVLA?
That is the point where the V5 gets revoked and pulled from the system. The car no longer really exists at that point.
I think you have been lucky.
Cat Bs CANNOT be put back on the road, they are not even allowed to be sold whole in theory.
https://www.copart.co.uk/Content/UK/EN/Support/How...
Edited by gizlaroc on Tuesday 30th June 15:01
What are Category B vehicles?
Category B (often shortened to CAT B) vehicles are cars, motorcycles, trucks, vans, buses and indeed any other type of motor vehicle where the structural damage is deemed so severe that the vehicle’s chassis and structural frame are not permitted to return to the road, but parts from the vehicle which have not been severely damaged can be taken off the vehicle and re-used in others. After salvageable parts have been removed, the chassis of the vehicle must be crushed by an Authorised Treatment Facility (ATF).
Due to the extent of damage to such vehicles, it is a legal requirement that only ATFs can handle Category B vehicles, as they can pose a serious risk if returned to the road. Copart, as an ATF, will only allow Members to bid on Category B vehicles once all relevant documentation (to prove that you are permitted to buy, store and destroy Category B vehicles) has been shown and accepted.
However, if you have your eye on a CAT B vehicle, but do not have the licences, Copart offers a service called BreakerBid4U. This service will bid on, and buy CAT B vehicles on your behalf, and then allow you to break them in one of our six breaking facilities across the UK. If this interests, you please visit BreakerBid4U to find out more!
The laws and regulations surrounding the purchase of Category B Breaker vehicles can be complex. As a quick overview, Category B's cannot be returned to the road, but salvageable parts from the vehicles can be used in the repair of other cars. Due to environmental and safety regulations, the sale and destruction of Category B cars are carefully monitored and managed. This page is designed to give you as much information as possible about the processes involved.
Category B (often shortened to CAT B) vehicles are cars, motorcycles, trucks, vans, buses and indeed any other type of motor vehicle where the structural damage is deemed so severe that the vehicle’s chassis and structural frame are not permitted to return to the road, but parts from the vehicle which have not been severely damaged can be taken off the vehicle and re-used in others. After salvageable parts have been removed, the chassis of the vehicle must be crushed by an Authorised Treatment Facility (ATF).
Due to the extent of damage to such vehicles, it is a legal requirement that only ATFs can handle Category B vehicles, as they can pose a serious risk if returned to the road. Copart, as an ATF, will only allow Members to bid on Category B vehicles once all relevant documentation (to prove that you are permitted to buy, store and destroy Category B vehicles) has been shown and accepted.
However, if you have your eye on a CAT B vehicle, but do not have the licences, Copart offers a service called BreakerBid4U. This service will bid on, and buy CAT B vehicles on your behalf, and then allow you to break them in one of our six breaking facilities across the UK. If this interests, you please visit BreakerBid4U to find out more!
The laws and regulations surrounding the purchase of Category B Breaker vehicles can be complex. As a quick overview, Category B's cannot be returned to the road, but salvageable parts from the vehicles can be used in the repair of other cars. Due to environmental and safety regulations, the sale and destruction of Category B cars are carefully monitored and managed. This page is designed to give you as much information as possible about the processes involved.
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