RE: Mini GP1 | High-Mile Club
RE: Mini GP1 | High-Mile Club
Monday 30th November 2020

Mini GP1 | High-Mile Club

Well if you want a Mini GP to actually drive, how about one with a six-figure mileage?



Over three generations and 15 years, the Mini GP has proved that a certain formula works well. Namely, that if a two-seat Mini is pitched to the market in the right way, it's going to sell. More than that, it's going to retain its value as well. It's been something of a triumph, commercially; two-seat hot hatches are often criticised for missing the point, and the Mini has held no records nor broken new ground like some others, yet all the GPs retain their value significantly better than regular Coopers.

Rarity undoubtedly plays a part, global GP production never reaching more than 3,000 (for the latest version) and the UK only ever greeting a few hundred. The unique look and two-seat status will have helped its cause, too, given it cannot be replicated with other models in the range.

Then, of course, there's the fact that the GPs have been superb cars to drive, amplifying and exaggerating all the characteristics of a 21st century Mini to create fantastic hot hatches. Well, mostly; it would be fair to say that the current GP3, the most powerful and most expensive Mini hatch yet, hasn't been received with quite the adulation of the previous two. But even that hasn't dented the residual strength - 11 of the 575 UK allocation are on PH, and some with £40k asking prices. The Mini GP brand is going to need rather more than one sub-par offering to really harm in its reputation.


Which creates a problem, in a way. Because while the GPs are renowned as great driver's cars, they're clearly quite collectible as well. And that typically results in an impending fear of heavy use. See cars like this GP1 and this GP2, showing 20,000 and 11,000 miles respectively; they're designed to be the best Minis to drive, yet the scarcity means a lot of people won't.

So how about a Mini GP like this one? It's showing 100,000 miles which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't all that much when compared to other Minis - but, when you consider that no other GP advertised has recorded more than 75k, it looks more of an achievement. As number 1938 of 2000, this is one of the last original GPs, with four owners across its 14 years. The ad speaks of a Mini and specialist service history, a car "well cared for and maintained with 100,700 miles". Certainly, it seems to present well, Recaro bolsters intact, wheels (on good Michelin tyres) unmarked and the large boot space not torn to shreds by trying to jam unsuitable luggage in there.

In theory, then, there's a lot to like here, because #1938 is never going to be a GP for the collectors - it's one to be driven, enjoyed and cared for like the other owners seemingly have. An asking price of £11,995 points to just how in demand these Minis are. The next most affordable are around the £15k mark (or £14k in Aberdeen), with average mileages of little more than 4,000 miles a year. And though £12k is of course a lot more than a standard Cooper S, the GP's significance should ensure more of it comes back at resale time. Assuming, that is, you'd want to; this is the only supercharged GP to have been made, and remains very highly regarded a decade and half later. Here's perhaps the best way to experience what all the fuss is about.

See the original advert here.






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the Carguy

Original Poster:

38 posts

102 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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No thanks ,a standard cooper s with a few improvements will do me just fine ...

wab172uk

2,005 posts

258 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I've always really liked these cars. Wish I'd bought one new.

Funnily enough I was enquiring about a low millage example in Scotland just the other week. Strong money though. £24k.

Ordered a new Yaris GR instead. But would love to have the original GP Works in my garage. I just need a bigger garage ...... and more money

howardhughes

1,425 posts

235 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I'm a huge fan of the GP1. I have currently 303,709 Miles on my R53 JCW and still pulls like a train. These engines are bulletproof as long as they’re maintained correctly. 100,000 is nothing, barely broke in.

coded2112

175 posts

252 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I have one with 111k miles on the clock, use it everyday and love it.... then something fails i consider another car, get GP back from garage and love it again!!

Murph7355

42,022 posts

287 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I never really see the point in 2-seat saloon cars/hatchbacks like this. (Granted Minis are hardly the most spacious inside!)

2-seat cars to me are a compromise. Above many things, part of that compromise should be to look great (or at the very least not just like some humdrum run of the mill car).

5harp3y

1,966 posts

230 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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howardhughes said:
I'm a huge fan of the GP1. I have currently 303,709 Miles on my R53 JCW and still pulls like a train. These engines are bulletproof as long as they’re maintained correctly. 100,000 is nothing, barely broke in.
wow!

nunpuncher

3,768 posts

156 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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100k is nothing on these Chrysler engines. If you don't do stupid mods, take car of any oil leaks and make sure the plumbing is healthy they will keep going. And if they do break they are very cheap to fix.

GP though. Much as I really like them the price premium over an r53 S or JCW with a few simple mods just isn't worth it.

Hairymonster

1,678 posts

136 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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The wheelbase looks very short - is this a shorter wheelbase than the standard Mini?

Pip1968

1,400 posts

235 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Great to see a classic car being used. It is never good news when they become 'collectables' and start getting stored and mileage sensitive.

Only question is where is the front strut bar?

Pip

Pumpsmynads

300 posts

187 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I get it has no rear seats but why not even a bulkhead (could be cardboard like a parcel shelf) to stop your shopping/dog flying about the car?

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Pip1968 said:
Great to see a classic car being used. It is never good news when they become 'collectables' and start getting stored and mileage sensitive.

Only question is where is the front strut bar?

Pip
They never had a factory fitted one.

Talking of being used biggrin



Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 30th November 13:25

scottygib553

719 posts

126 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Not sure if they are all like this but I rode in one for twenty minutes and it was the worst riding car I have ever been in.

rare6499

865 posts

170 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Hairymonster said:
The wheelbase looks very short - is this a shorter wheelbase than the standard Mini?
Nope, standard body/wheelbase. Just looks small compared to the current car.

I’ve had two GP1’s - brilliant cars. Loved them. Such character with the supercharger and excellent to drive. Built by Bertone as well which is cool, and of course only 2,000 ever made.

rare6499

865 posts

170 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Pip1968 said:
Great to see a classic car being used. It is never good news when they become 'collectables' and start getting stored and mileage sensitive.

Only question is where is the front strut bar?

Pip
They never had a front strut bar. There was a JCW one sold as an accessory but it wasn’t standard fit.

rare6499

865 posts

170 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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scottygib553 said:
Not sure if they are all like this but I rode in one for twenty minutes and it was the worst riding car I have ever been in.
Must have been on aftermarket suspension. Stock dampers and springs are actually extremely compliant. In stock form it’s quite a sensible riding car, especially compared to something like an Abarth.

blue al

1,444 posts

190 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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moktabe said:
Pip1968 said:
Great to see a classic car being used. It is never good news when they become 'collectables' and start getting stored and mileage sensitive.

Only question is where is the front strut bar?

Pip
They never had a factory fitted one.

Talking of being used biggrin



Edited by moktabe on Monday 30th November 13:25
Well said...

No mention of aftermarket items, the shiny tank is an oblivious addition, red coil pack and rear wing
The engine on the r53 is good for a easy additional 60hp on standard internals, with some specialist aftermarket tuners

Never had this either...obviously cut and paste in the selling advertising
“50/50 split folding rear seats”... laugh




Edited by blue al on Monday 30th November 17:08

Cornish Pete

72 posts

118 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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howardhughes said:
I'm a huge fan of the GP1. I have currently 303,709 Miles on my R53 JCW and still pulls like a train. These engines are bulletproof as long as they’re maintained correctly. 100,000 is nothing, barely broke in.
'kin 'ell. Big respect. Thought I was doing well with a 200k diesel Mondeo.

stevie777777

190 posts

206 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Liking these more an more - but then I have a 56 plate cooper s. That has 96K and as said before they can take the mileage and mine still drives really well. There is a reason why the supercharged models can be worth more than an early turbo gen 2. But any Supercharged model is worth buying and hanging onto for the future I reckon. Condition and service history is always king - not mileage.

Water Fairy

6,647 posts

186 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I think these look great and have no doubt they are good to drive having driven a standard Cooper S, but...............

I have no interest nor see the point of a 2 seater HH because as mentioned it DOES miss the point of a HH in my humble opinion.

If I wanted or only needed 2 seats I would be having something RWD with a multi cylinder engine.

I am glad those who have them love them and I am glad they exist just not for me.

Trackdayer

1,090 posts

72 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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For the money I'd take an M3, a 911 or about 200 others cars first.