Car buyer wants a refund after buying my car privately
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So I had a 2007 bmw for sale and ever since I owned the car it had a cold start misfire. And I just used the car as it was. Never really bothered me as it cleared after a couple of minutes. And not being flush with cash I couldn't afford to look to far into repairs.
I decided after getting an Audi for the Mrs and I decided to run her little fiesta as it was a perfect A to B car so I decided to sell the bmw. (I can't afford to run these really)
I advertised it with the misfire and as a mechanically minded friend told me it could be an injector issue bla bla. So I stated that also
I advertised the car for 1600 based on a tidy "perfect" running example was over 3000. And I received lots of interest and one guy was from London I live near Manchester he asked me if it would drive to London I said I wouldn't drive that far in it myself, to which he said but you drive it daily which I said I do and my round trip was like 12miles when I do. I talked to him in length about bits of the car everything he hadn't bothered to read in the advert clearly and he purchased a train ticket and came up (oh and also after knocking me down to 1300 as he was coming so far and I felt bad).
I also stated on the call what if he comes and doesn't either like the car or the way it runs he said its fine I'll buy it to which I said but all that way what if it breaks down he said its ok he has AA recovery
He came down the following day turns out he's a dealer not a private buyer as he originally said but hey it was a sale we ran the car I drove it then he looked around it and then drove it. We discussed the misfire (at this point hes also a mechanic?) And he stated its just a coil pack it's fine to drive back i was like ok. (Turns out he was using an old bmw as a donor for parts once back)
He eventually paid me my money and went on his way.
Now...... a couple of hours later after he's been flying down the motorway he rings me "the car won't start you sold me this bmw you need to help me and get this sorted!!!" I was like WTH you literally drove it with a fault and you previously stated you had AA recovery etc why is this now my issue?? He already had the car super cheap and is now upset he decided to drive it down the m6 with a known fault. I genuinely don't know what he's done to the car but he seems keen to pester me.
My question is how likely is it hes going to see a solicitor and what can I do if he does.
The Car is sold as seen
The misfire was advertised aswell as discussed verbally
He test drove the car
And he got it at a cheap price
It was advertised as no service history also
The Car had also a couple of weeks previously been to BMW for recalls and had a timing chain etc and they never mentioned any issues even after a Vehicle health check they did.
I do feel bad for him and its stressing me out. But I've run the car for months like that it's been fine for me and its 14years old.
Any advice is appreciated
I decided after getting an Audi for the Mrs and I decided to run her little fiesta as it was a perfect A to B car so I decided to sell the bmw. (I can't afford to run these really)
I advertised it with the misfire and as a mechanically minded friend told me it could be an injector issue bla bla. So I stated that also
I advertised the car for 1600 based on a tidy "perfect" running example was over 3000. And I received lots of interest and one guy was from London I live near Manchester he asked me if it would drive to London I said I wouldn't drive that far in it myself, to which he said but you drive it daily which I said I do and my round trip was like 12miles when I do. I talked to him in length about bits of the car everything he hadn't bothered to read in the advert clearly and he purchased a train ticket and came up (oh and also after knocking me down to 1300 as he was coming so far and I felt bad).
I also stated on the call what if he comes and doesn't either like the car or the way it runs he said its fine I'll buy it to which I said but all that way what if it breaks down he said its ok he has AA recovery
He came down the following day turns out he's a dealer not a private buyer as he originally said but hey it was a sale we ran the car I drove it then he looked around it and then drove it. We discussed the misfire (at this point hes also a mechanic?) And he stated its just a coil pack it's fine to drive back i was like ok. (Turns out he was using an old bmw as a donor for parts once back)
He eventually paid me my money and went on his way.
Now...... a couple of hours later after he's been flying down the motorway he rings me "the car won't start you sold me this bmw you need to help me and get this sorted!!!" I was like WTH you literally drove it with a fault and you previously stated you had AA recovery etc why is this now my issue?? He already had the car super cheap and is now upset he decided to drive it down the m6 with a known fault. I genuinely don't know what he's done to the car but he seems keen to pester me.
My question is how likely is it hes going to see a solicitor and what can I do if he does.
The Car is sold as seen
The misfire was advertised aswell as discussed verbally
He test drove the car
And he got it at a cheap price
It was advertised as no service history also
The Car had also a couple of weeks previously been to BMW for recalls and had a timing chain etc and they never mentioned any issues even after a Vehicle health check they did.
I do feel bad for him and its stressing me out. But I've run the car for months like that it's been fine for me and its 14years old.
Any advice is appreciated
Edited by Automotive1 on Wednesday 19th January 12:51
Automotive1 said:
So I had a 2007 bmw for sale and everything since I owned the car it had a cold start misfire. And I just used the car as it was. Never really bothered me as it cleared after a couple of minutes. And not being flush with cash I couldn't afford to look to far into repairs.
I decided after getting an Audi for the Mrs to run her little fiesta as it was a perfect A to B car so I decided to sell the bmw.
I advertised it with the misfire and as a mechanically minded friend told me it could be an injector issue bla bla. So I stated that also
I advertised the car for 1600 based on a tidy "perfect" running example was over 3000. And I received lots of interest and one guy was from London I live near Manchester he asked me if it would drive to London I said I wouldn't drive that far in it myself, to which he said but you drive it daily which I said I do and my round trip was like 12miles when I do. I talked to him in length about bits of the car everything he hadn't bothered to read in the advert clearly and he purchased a train ticket and came up (oh and also after knocking me down to 1300 as he was coming so far and I felt bad).
I also stated on the call what if he comes and doesn't either like the car or the way it runs he said its fine I'll buy it to which I said but all that way what if it breaks down he said its ok he has AA recovery
He came down the following day turns out he's a dealer not a private buyer as he originally said but hey it was a sale we ran the car I drove it then he looked around it and then drove it. We discussed the misfire (at this point hes also a mechanic?) And he stated its just a coil pack it's fine to drive back i was like ok. (Turns out he was using an old bmw as a donor for parts once back)
He eventually paid me my money and went on his way.
Now...... a couple of hours later after he's been flying down the motorway he rings me "the car won't start you sold me this bmw you need to help me and get this sorted!!!" I was like WTH you literally drove it with a fault and previously stated you had AA recovery etc why is this now my issue?? He already had the car super cheap and is now upset he decided to drive it down the m6 with a known fault.
My question is how likely is it hes going to see a solicitor and what can I do if he does.
The Car is sold as seen
The misfire was advertised aswell as discussed verbally
He test drove the car
And he got it at a cheap price
It was advertised as no service history also
The Car had also a couple of weeks previously been to BMW for recalls and had a timing chain etc and they never mentioned any issues even after a Vehicle health check they did.
I do feel bad for him and its stressing me out. But I've run the car for months like that it's been fine for me and its 14years old.
Any advice is appreciated
There is a 'sticky' at the top of this section with this very issue.I decided after getting an Audi for the Mrs to run her little fiesta as it was a perfect A to B car so I decided to sell the bmw.
I advertised it with the misfire and as a mechanically minded friend told me it could be an injector issue bla bla. So I stated that also
I advertised the car for 1600 based on a tidy "perfect" running example was over 3000. And I received lots of interest and one guy was from London I live near Manchester he asked me if it would drive to London I said I wouldn't drive that far in it myself, to which he said but you drive it daily which I said I do and my round trip was like 12miles when I do. I talked to him in length about bits of the car everything he hadn't bothered to read in the advert clearly and he purchased a train ticket and came up (oh and also after knocking me down to 1300 as he was coming so far and I felt bad).
I also stated on the call what if he comes and doesn't either like the car or the way it runs he said its fine I'll buy it to which I said but all that way what if it breaks down he said its ok he has AA recovery
He came down the following day turns out he's a dealer not a private buyer as he originally said but hey it was a sale we ran the car I drove it then he looked around it and then drove it. We discussed the misfire (at this point hes also a mechanic?) And he stated its just a coil pack it's fine to drive back i was like ok. (Turns out he was using an old bmw as a donor for parts once back)
He eventually paid me my money and went on his way.
Now...... a couple of hours later after he's been flying down the motorway he rings me "the car won't start you sold me this bmw you need to help me and get this sorted!!!" I was like WTH you literally drove it with a fault and previously stated you had AA recovery etc why is this now my issue?? He already had the car super cheap and is now upset he decided to drive it down the m6 with a known fault.
My question is how likely is it hes going to see a solicitor and what can I do if he does.
The Car is sold as seen
The misfire was advertised aswell as discussed verbally
He test drove the car
And he got it at a cheap price
It was advertised as no service history also
The Car had also a couple of weeks previously been to BMW for recalls and had a timing chain etc and they never mentioned any issues even after a Vehicle health check they did.
I do feel bad for him and its stressing me out. But I've run the car for months like that it's been fine for me and its 14years old.
Any advice is appreciated
It is his car, his problem.
Automotive1 said:
So I had a 2007 bmw for sale and ever since I owned the car it had a cold start misfire. And I just used the car as it was. Never really bothered me as it cleared after a couple of minutes. And not being flush with cash I couldn't afford to look to far into repairs.
I decided after getting an Audi for the Mrs and I decided to run her little fiesta as it was a perfect A to B car so I decided to sell the bmw. (I can't afford to run these really)
I advertised it with the misfire and as a mechanically minded friend told me it could be an injector issue bla bla. So I stated that also
I advertised the car for 1600 based on a tidy "perfect" running example was over 3000. And I received lots of interest and one guy was from London I live near Manchester he asked me if it would drive to London I said I wouldn't drive that far in it myself, to which he said but you drive it daily which I said I do and my round trip was like 12miles when I do. I talked to him in length about bits of the car everything he hadn't bothered to read in the advert clearly and he purchased a train ticket and came up (oh and also after knocking me down to 1300 as he was coming so far and I felt bad).
I also stated on the call what if he comes and doesn't either like the car or the way it runs he said its fine I'll buy it to which I said but all that way what if it breaks down he said its ok he has AA recovery
He came down the following day turns out he's a dealer not a private buyer as he originally said but hey it was a sale we ran the car I drove it then he looked around it and then drove it. We discussed the misfire (at this point hes also a mechanic?) And he stated its just a coil pack it's fine to drive back i was like ok. (Turns out he was using an old bmw as a donor for parts once back)
He eventually paid me my money and went on his way.
Now...... a couple of hours later after he's been flying down the motorway he rings me "the car won't start you sold me this bmw you need to help me and get this sorted!!!" I was like WTH you literally drove it with a fault and you previously stated you had AA recovery etc why is this now my issue?? He already had the car super cheap and is now upset he decided to drive it down the m6 with a known fault. I genuinely don't know what he's done to the car but he seems keen to pester me.
My question is how likely is it hes going to see a solicitor and what can I do if he does.
The Car is sold as seen
The misfire was advertised aswell as discussed verbally
He test drove the car
And he got it at a cheap price
It was advertised as no service history also
The Car had also a couple of weeks previously been to BMW for recalls and had a timing chain etc and they never mentioned any issues even after a Vehicle health check they did.
I do feel bad for him and its stressing me out. But I've run the car for months like that it's been fine for me and its 14years old.
Any advice is appreciated
Click on this link and read the other threads https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...I decided after getting an Audi for the Mrs and I decided to run her little fiesta as it was a perfect A to B car so I decided to sell the bmw. (I can't afford to run these really)
I advertised it with the misfire and as a mechanically minded friend told me it could be an injector issue bla bla. So I stated that also
I advertised the car for 1600 based on a tidy "perfect" running example was over 3000. And I received lots of interest and one guy was from London I live near Manchester he asked me if it would drive to London I said I wouldn't drive that far in it myself, to which he said but you drive it daily which I said I do and my round trip was like 12miles when I do. I talked to him in length about bits of the car everything he hadn't bothered to read in the advert clearly and he purchased a train ticket and came up (oh and also after knocking me down to 1300 as he was coming so far and I felt bad).
I also stated on the call what if he comes and doesn't either like the car or the way it runs he said its fine I'll buy it to which I said but all that way what if it breaks down he said its ok he has AA recovery
He came down the following day turns out he's a dealer not a private buyer as he originally said but hey it was a sale we ran the car I drove it then he looked around it and then drove it. We discussed the misfire (at this point hes also a mechanic?) And he stated its just a coil pack it's fine to drive back i was like ok. (Turns out he was using an old bmw as a donor for parts once back)
He eventually paid me my money and went on his way.
Now...... a couple of hours later after he's been flying down the motorway he rings me "the car won't start you sold me this bmw you need to help me and get this sorted!!!" I was like WTH you literally drove it with a fault and you previously stated you had AA recovery etc why is this now my issue?? He already had the car super cheap and is now upset he decided to drive it down the m6 with a known fault. I genuinely don't know what he's done to the car but he seems keen to pester me.
My question is how likely is it hes going to see a solicitor and what can I do if he does.
The Car is sold as seen
The misfire was advertised aswell as discussed verbally
He test drove the car
And he got it at a cheap price
It was advertised as no service history also
The Car had also a couple of weeks previously been to BMW for recalls and had a timing chain etc and they never mentioned any issues even after a Vehicle health check they did.
I do feel bad for him and its stressing me out. But I've run the car for months like that it's been fine for me and its 14years old.
Any advice is appreciated
Edited by Automotive1 on Wednesday 19th January 12:51
Because of the way that you knocked money off left, right and centre, he sees you as a soft touch.
As he told you that he's a Dealer, he wouldn't stand a chance in court. Block his number now and carry on with your life.
Make sure to keep a copy of your advert, just in case he really is dumb enough to take it further.
As he told you that he's a Dealer, he wouldn't stand a chance in court. Block his number now and carry on with your life.
Make sure to keep a copy of your advert, just in case he really is dumb enough to take it further.
Pixel Pusher said:
Would you not have both signed a receipt that stated sold as seen with the fault?
I had every intention but honestly due to his travel delays and being up since 5am what not I admittedly forgot. I've been told it would be considered as a sold as seen due to the age etc. But I get your point. catman said:
Because of the way that you knocked money off left, right and centre, he sees you as a soft touch.
As he told you that he's a Dealer, he wouldn't stand a chance in court. Block his number now and carry on with your life.
Make sure to keep a copy of your advert, just in case he really is dumb enough to take it further.
Exactly this. As he told you that he's a Dealer, he wouldn't stand a chance in court. Block his number now and carry on with your life.
Make sure to keep a copy of your advert, just in case he really is dumb enough to take it further.
You have already given him 20% off the car's value, because he doesn't live near you (which, for future reference is one of the oldest tricks in the book and absolutely insane to agree to by the way)....so he's got a feeling you'll probably bung him some more cash to help with the fix. (Sounds like your considering it too?).
Nonetheless, if your being honest and true, and know of NO OTHER REASON why it would fail in the way it did, then block his number and continue with your life. Job done.
t and basically guilted people into helping out/buying back. He's just pissed off that his gamble didn't pay off and wants to blame someone else.Forums | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff