RE: Talbot Sunbeam Lotus Avon Edition for sale
RE: Talbot Sunbeam Lotus Avon Edition for sale
Sunday 20th February 2022

Talbot Sunbeam Lotus Avon Edition for sale

Heard the one about the coachbuilt Lotus Sunbeam? Get comfy...



The bizarre automotive collaboration is nothing new. It seemingly goes from strength to strength, in fact, with the cars like the recently-launched Juke Kiiro - which is the second Batman-inspired Juke made by Nissan, thanks to their involvement with the franchise. Weird. But from Murcielago Versace Edition to Mini Goodwood and Fiat 500 Riva to VW Beetle Fender, the car world is crammed full of tie-ups that seem stranger and stranger with each passing year.

It's not a new phenomenon, either, as proven by the Talbot Sunbeam Lotus Avon Edition. Because that's not Avon as in the tyre maker; that's Avon as in Avon Coachworks, a coachbuilder founded shortly after WWI and operational in Warwick for more than 60 years after that. When the announcement came that production of the Sunbeam was being wound up, Avon acquired 150 of the final ones - it's still not entirely clearly why - to create its own final edition.

Even by the standards of the early 1980s, the Talbot was a raw, wild, visceral little scallywag of a car - its nature is a large part of why the Sunbeam is so adored. That and the videos of it sideways on every special stage. Avon's idea was to round off the rough edges, fitting its special edition with additional soundproofing, new trim and the most spectacular velour interior. The two-tone blue was also unique to the Avon Edition, one of two available colour schemes. Having put all this work in attempting to civilise the Talbot tearaway, the price asked was then less than a standard car, according to this Motor Sport review from April 1983. Just three years later, having apparently sold fewer than 60 special editions, Avon ceased trading - make of that what you will.



Nowadays, any kind of Sunbeam Lotus is exceptionally rare; the Avon Edition was a new one on us when it came up for sale, so it must be seldom seen. This one has been verified as a genuine car by the owner's club, and has seemingly been looked after with kid gloves since a restoration 10 years ago.

The Avon overhaul didn't touch the engine, so this one will still be snorting out in the region of 150hp from a 2.2 Lotus twin-cam, driving to the rear wheels via a five-speed dog-leg manual. Don't be concerned about the velour and the insulation dulling the drive, either - that 1983 review described the Avon Edition as "pure, uninhibited pleasure". Even with road noise "considerably reduced", the Sunbeam was still thought to be a "pretty noisy, tiring prospect for extended motorway cruising." And that was 40 years ago.

The Avon is still going to offer an authentic, unadulterated Sunbeam experience, then, now with the additional appeal of being even more exclusive than standard. This one is being sold at £49,995, which is surely a lot of money to anyone. But such is the reverence around the Sunbeam now; forever in the Escort's shadow, as the Ford skyrocketed in value it was inevitable that similar cars - look, too, at the Vauxhall Chevette - would follow. Not least given how crashable the Talbot, with its burly power and crude suspension, must have been. There just aren't that many left, and even fewer looking as beautifully preserved as this Avon Edition. The logic behind a velour-lined Lotus Sunbeam undoubtedly seems weirder than ever, but all these years later it makes for a spectacular hot hatch throwback.





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Billy_Whizzzz

Original Poster:

2,621 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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I’d rather a non-Avon one but still a wonderful thing. Souks have been in yesterday’s sub 150hp list instead of the IQ.

200Plus Club

13,565 posts

307 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Minty. (Having sold a SL in similar condition - non Avon).
Great fun cars when setup and driving well. Miss mine but itch scratched.

TA14

14,332 posts

287 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Looks like a great fun car. I wonder what happened to the other 90 that they didn't sell.

200Plus Club

13,565 posts

307 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Rust mainly..

2172cc

1,917 posts

126 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Avon's are rare but an acquired taste. In my opinion its well over priced but a nice car none the less. I prefer the normal Moonstone blue series 2 colour although the original black /silver colours are more iconic.
Que excuse to post a picture of my car.........

Augustus Windsock

3,788 posts

184 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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This and a Chevette HS would be perfect to open the garage door to every (sunny and dry) weekend.
There used to be one in Mansfield many years ago (DAC 6Y or DDU 6Y, can’t remember which) that is coveted for years and even spoke to the owner about selling.
Promised me first refusal and then one day I was walking past ‘on my beat’ only to find it had gone. Gutted doesn’t come close.
As an aide, is ‘coach built’ the right term? I wouldn’t have thought a different paint job, retrim, sunroof (yuk) and soundproofing qualified?

2172cc

1,917 posts

126 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Augustus Windsock said:
This and a Chevette HS would be perfect to open the garage door to every (sunny and dry) weekend.
There used to be one in Mansfield many years ago (DAC 6Y or DDU 6Y, can’t remember which) that is coveted for years and even spoke to the owner about selling.
Promised me first refusal and then one day I was walking past ‘on my beat’ only to find it had gone. Gutted doesn’t come close.
As an aide, is ‘coach built’ the right term? I wouldn’t have thought a different paint job, retrim, sunroof (yuk) and soundproofing qualified?
The majority of Avon's had DDU ...Y plates although not all of them did. The one for sale is FRW 423Y.

waynecyclist

14,671 posts

143 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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This seems strong money to me and I think that I would prefer a standard car.

Maccmike8

1,605 posts

83 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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I do like a Talbot.

sideways man

1,669 posts

166 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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I had a ‘normal’ black/silver one, with the Skip Brown Roadspeed conversion to about 180bhp. I fitted the essential LSD…most fun car I ever owned, opposite lock on demand at nearly every corner. Induction noise with the air box removed was just glorious. Sold it for £4200… I’m an idiot.

Just noticed the car for sale is missing it’s front spot lights. I have a new/ old stock pair that’s still in the box, if the new owner is interested in buying.

Edited by sideways man on Sunday 20th February 10:08

rodericb

8,872 posts

155 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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So the Avon Edition was more a cosmetic upgrade?

Julian Thompson

2,715 posts

267 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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sideways man said:
I had a ‘normal’ black/silver one, with the Skip Brown Roadspeed conversion to about 180bhp. I fitted the essential LSD…most fun car I ever owned, opposite lock on demand at nearly every corner. Induction noise with the air box removed was just glorious. Sold it for £4200… I’m an idiot.
Must have been a long time ago though?

I have a black and silver S1 which is definitely cool. Many people want to talk about it - young and old, and they’re all nice people too. I was amazed that anyone knew what it was!

Although I may be selling it soon as I have run out of room and have been showing unhealthy amounts of interest in old Ferrari’s which is a bit worrying!

2172cc

1,917 posts

126 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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sideways man said:
Just noticed the car for sale is missing it’s front spot lights. I have a new/ old stock pair that’s still in the box, if the new owner is interested in buying.

Edited by sideways man on Sunday 20th February 10:08
If they are Marchal 812 then they are very desirable especially with the covers. The Sunbeam Lotus Owners Club would be the best place to sell them .

wolfracesonic

9,204 posts

156 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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TA14 said:
Looks like a great fun car. I wonder what happened to the other 90 that they didn't sell.
That would make a great episode of ‘Barn Finds’, as Johnny Smith levers open the door of some long abandoned warehouse to reveal row upon row of dust covered Sunbeams.

sideways man

1,669 posts

166 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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If they are Marchal 812 then they are very desirable especially with the covers. The Sunbeam Lotus Owners Club would be the best place to sell them .
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Yes exactly those, covers included. Been meaning to sell them for a long time, never got round to it. Will get in touch with SLOC.

2172cc

1,917 posts

126 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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The cars that were earmarked for Avon to convert which were never done, ended up with Arbury Service Station in Nuneaton and sold off with consecutive DAC plates.

2172cc

1,917 posts

126 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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sideways man]172cc said:
If they are Marchal 812 then they are very desirable especially with the covers. The Sunbeam Lotus Owners Club would be the best place to sell them .
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Yes exactly those, covers included. Been meaning to sell them for a long time, never got round to it. Will get in touch with SLOC.
If you have problems let me know and I can help

200Plus Club

13,565 posts

307 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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wolfracesonic said:
That would make a great episode of ‘Barn Finds’, as Johnny Smith levers open the door of some long abandoned warehouse to reveal row upon row of dust covered Sunbeams.
You'd now likely find 90 big piles of rust with blue paint attached.
They are now just about worth repairing given a proper metal restoration and repaint with engine refresh I bet is close to £25k if you pay someone, possibly more.

CamGTS

8 posts

86 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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I've posted on the SLOC forum re SEVs

sideways man

1,669 posts

166 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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CamGTS said:
I've posted on the SLOC forum re SEVs
I’m not a member anymore, if you could pm me any replies that would be great.

Just had a look a them; seems they are Marchal 819. Clear lens, with covers, in ‘as new’ condition.

Edited by sideways man on Sunday 20th February 12:12