Why is 56mph more fuel efficient than 40mph?
Why is 56mph more fuel efficient than 40mph?
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Largechris

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2,019 posts

122 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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It’s always recommended by the experts that the most efficient speed to drive at is 56mph.

Surely driving at 40mph or 20mph for example would be more efficient? (Air resistance increasing with square of velocity etc etc).

(Provided the you are in the right gear, engine isn’t labouring etc. )

MKnight702

3,440 posts

245 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Who cares. I don't drive at the most efficient speed, I drive at an appropriate speed for the conditions.

MrGTI6

3,310 posts

161 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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It depends on a lot of factors. Gearing, power band, aerodynamics, etc.

Excuse the random made-up figures, but as an example, let's say a car requires 40% more fuel per minute to cruise at 60mph than it does to travel at 40mph.

Yes, it will use 40% more fuel over the course of a minute, but it will also cover 50% more distance in the same time frame, meaning MPG would be better at the higher speed.

These figures probably aren't accurate at all but just an example!

Edited by MrGTI6 on Sunday 13th March 15:55

Ice_blue_tvr

3,508 posts

195 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Slow speed = small throttle opening = higher pumping loss. For a petrol at least.

For a diesel, my understanding is that they are more efficient under a bit of load.


northandy

3,540 posts

252 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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I thought the 56mph was from the old way they used to measure mpg, it’s not the most efficient just a set speed that manufacturers had to measure at.

tim2100

6,288 posts

288 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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56mph is just an arbitrary speed to create a common comparison value.

There are to many variables to say that xxmph speed is the most efficient across all vehicles.

98elise

32,840 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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56 isn't always the most efficient speed. It depends on the specific car, engine, gearbox, fuel type etc. It will be in that ball park for a lot of cars though.

For EV's it's significantly lower. For a Tesla driving in the low 20's constantly would double the range.

E63eeeeee...

5,766 posts

80 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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It obviously can't be true that every car in every situation is at its most efficient at 56mph. For a start, some cars can't even drive at 56mph.

I can't remember where I saw this, but isn't it essentially the lowest speed you can drive smoothly at in your highest gear? There's a reason why modern cars nag you incessantly to shift up. But that still only gives you the best instant efficiency, you have to think about lots of other factors like how much you brake (braking is wasted fuel) to work out your most efficient approach to driving overall.

monthou

5,403 posts

81 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Largechris said:
It’s always recommended by the experts that the most efficient speed to drive at is 56mph.
It sounds daft.
Can you give an example of such a recommendation?

Paul_M3

2,535 posts

216 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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It’s just an arbitrary number for comparison.

People in the UK assumed it was some magic number because it wasn’t a round number. In reality it’s 90kph converted into mph.

mintmansam

475 posts

72 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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I find its typically the lowest speed in the highest gear, while not lugging the engine

I find 30mph, in 4th, 40 mph in 5th and 50 in 6th are the points which my cars (hatchbacks) are most efficient

50 is more efficient than 56. but it depends on your gearing and aerodynamic drag. A hatchback I suspect will sharper drop in MPG than a saloon / coupe as the speed increases.

for reference the MPG vs speed follows a strong square law relationship. I tested this on my own car.



The lower gear you are in the greater % of losses are internal frictional, I suspect this is why the highest gear is often the best

Drive Blind

5,798 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Largechris said:
It’s always recommended by the experts that the most efficient speed to drive at is 56mph.
i don't think it was ever recommended as most fuel efficient

in the olden days it was a quoted standard speed for a given mpg figure, that all the car makers quoted.

monthou

5,403 posts

81 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Paul_M3 said:
It’s just an arbitrary number for comparison.

People in the UK assumed it was some magic number because it wasn’t a round number. In reality it’s 90kph converted into mph.
I remember the Metro launch when they claimed 83mpg - at 30mph!

Spleen

5,453 posts

152 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Wasn't 75mph also seen as being fuel efficient at high speed?

Finding Neutral

439 posts

63 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Most of my wagons seem most efficient according to the onboard kit at 75/80mph

Puddenchucker

5,985 posts

249 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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northandy said:
I thought the 56mph was from the old way they used to measure mpg, it’s not the most efficient just a set speed that manufacturers had to measure at.
Correct.

The old test standard was:

GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS
3.1. Fuel consumption shall be determined by the following tests:—
3.1.1. Cycle simulating urban driving, as described in Annex 4 to this Regulation
3.1.2. Constant speed test at 90 km/h
3.1.3. Constant speed test at 120 km/h

andrebar

523 posts

153 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Largechris said:
It’s always recommended by the experts that the most efficient speed to drive at is 56mph.

Surely driving at 40mph or 20mph for example would be more efficient? (Air resistance increasing with square of velocity etc etc).

(Provided the you are in the right gear, engine isn’t labouring etc. )
56 is just the most economic of the old official mpg figures that the experts had to choose from. 56mph was used because it corresponds to 90kmh which is a common speed limit in Europe.

MightyBadger

4,775 posts

81 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Finding Neutral said:
Most of my wagons seem most efficient according to the onboard kit at 75/80mph
What trucks/lorrys are they?

StoutBench

1,509 posts

59 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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MightyBadger said:
Finding Neutral said:
Most of my wagons seem most efficient according to the onboard kit at 75/80mph
What trucks/lorrys are they?
A wagon is a sturdy four-wheeled vehicle for transporting things.

Driver101

14,451 posts

152 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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mintmansam said:
I find its typically the lowest speed in the highest gear, while not lugging the engine

I find 30mph, in 4th, 40 mph in 5th and 50 in 6th are the points which my cars (hatchbacks) are most efficient

50 is more efficient than 56. but it depends on your gearing and aerodynamic drag. A hatchback I suspect will sharper drop in MPG than a saloon / coupe as the speed increases.

for reference the MPG vs speed follows a strong square law relationship. I tested this on my own car.



The lower gear you are in the greater % of losses are internal frictional, I suspect this is why the highest gear is often the best
From 55 to 80mph your MPG halves?

I can't think of any cars I've owned having such a drop off.