RE: Manual (!) Jaguar XJR for sale
RE: Manual (!) Jaguar XJR for sale
Wednesday 23rd March 2022

Manual (!) Jaguar XJR for sale

All XJRs are cool; some are even cooler than others, though...



There aren't many other websites that will bang on about the joys of a manual gearbox quite like PH. We love them, you love them; sometimes it can feel like the last resting place for three-pedal enthusiasts. Not least because we have to suffer the removal of a manual option from another performance car on what seems like a weekly basis. Take manufacturers like Toyota, Porsche, Mazda and Honda out of the equation and you're left with precious few. Yes, automatics are better than ever, but there really is nothing to beat the enjoyment of a good DIY gearbox. Even a bad one, to be honest.

The real reason, of course, for the demise of the manual gearbox is that precious few people opt to buy them. Yes, the success of the manual-only GR Yaris is great, but there are many other cars where, given the option of both transmissions, the auto has vastly outsold the manual. So, what are manufacturers to do?

This isn't a recent phenomenon, either - just look at the manual Jaguar XJR. Yes, it really did happen, back in the mid-1990s with the X300 generation. But this is PH, you knew that already. What you might not be aware of is just how few were sold, with most estimates suggesting only 100 five-speed, right-hand drive XJRs were ever made. Even for a luxury saloon, that's a pitiful number - and just 40 or so are believed to be out there now. This was at a time when autos were much worse - the contemporary GM 'box in an XJR had just four speeds - and manuals more popular than today. Still Jaguar couldn't shift them.



But as is always the way with these things, what wasn't popular new now looks mighty intriguing. Because here's a 320hp, rear-drive, straight-six Jaguar sports saloon, with a Getrag manual gearbox. It won't be as sorted in terms of handling as a new car, of course, but it promises an experience that won't be easily replicated elsewhere. If great classic cars are about celebrating the best of what can no longer be bought, how much more old school cool is there than a 150mph supersaloon with a manual gearbox?

Moreover, this seems to be a superb Jaguar XJR even before considering the appeal of the transmission. With its current owner since 2000, it's covered just 71,000 miles since first registration in 1997 and comes with a "comprehensive" service history. Some might think the numberplate is brilliant; some might think it's a disaster. At least it might be worth some money for those in the latter camp. But there'll be no arguing about the condition, with paint, leather, wheels, carpet and chrome all looking supremely well looked after. No doubt there are plenty of 'wood' and 'knob' jokes to make about a shifter that looks much longer than it needs to be, but we'll leave those to you...

If there's one thing that's always united all Jaguar XJRs, it's frightful depreciation. An X300-era car like this made it Shed of the Week as recently as 2018. But good ones are now coming out of the other side, and the manual 'R is certainly in that camp, with a £20k asking price. Which is easily the most expensive X300 we've seen, and more than later, lower mileage X350s from the mid-2000s, but the demand is clearly increasing for the real old school Jags. A pristine version of the V8, X308 that replaced this XJR could cost £15k. And there wasn't a single manual version of that car. So if you really, really love a clutch and a lever, here might just be the Jaguar for you...




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borat52

Original Poster:

585 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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You can convert the auto versions to manuals for 2-5k depending on where you source the parts and how much you want to do yourself.

I love these cars, but crikey £20k is very strong money for one.

benzinbob

750 posts

86 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Why would you convert this, the definition of a cruiser, to a manual? Some cars deserve an auto

florian

298 posts

304 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Really love those 17" XJR wheels and that generation of XJ also offered great colour options, e.g. turquoise. It indeed looks like this is the pick of the bunch as far as X300 series are concerned. 20k is certainly a lot but keep in mind that they are quite rare. It looks good, drives good and it's comparably rare -> bingo.

It's a pity that there never was a manual version of the subsequent X308 (XJR V8) and also the X100 (XKR V8) as well. That would have been a blast to drive.

jl34

554 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Thats lovely . much want from me

NGK210

5,015 posts

175 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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I do like a car with a ‘modest’ speedo: speedo runs up to 160mph; car’s actual max speed – 155mph. Nice.

Kawasicki

14,377 posts

265 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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benzinbob said:
Why would you convert this, the definition of a cruiser, to a manual? Some cars deserve an auto
It's not a cruiser, the clue is in the R. It's an M5 competitor, and it deserves a manual gearbox.

Bencolem

1,185 posts

269 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Conflicted on this one.

It presents like a new car but only listed with a "comprehensive service history" and there's potential for a lot of issues under the well polished exterior.

I was reading the article thinking £12,000.

On the one hand even £20,000 doesn't buy you a lot of fast Ford from a similar era these days so it's value in that context; on the other hand I've seen so many low mileage low owner XJ8's of this era for around £5,000 and XJR's for £8,000 that it's hard to justify this when you could arrange your own manual swap for a lot less.

Great spotted, heart says yes, head quickly says no at £20k!

2xChevrons

4,597 posts

110 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Kawasicki said:
benzinbob said:
Why would you convert this, the definition of a cruiser, to a manual? Some cars deserve an auto
It's not a cruiser, the clue is in the R. It's an M5 competitor, and it deserves a manual gearbox.
I have to agree. I've driven a couple of auto X306 XJRs and they are magnificent, and the auto with the J-gate is a good compromise. But I think a manual would eke out the sporting/performance side of the car's character that little bit more. I imagine having full control over a 4.0-litre supercharged AJ16 would be glorious. It seems the original XJR buyers didn't agree though, since they overwhelmingly paid extra for the auto.

borat52

Original Poster:

585 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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benzinbob said:
Why would you convert this, the definition of a cruiser, to a manual? Some cars deserve an auto
The auto version is a 4 speed auto. It was pretty terrible even in the mid 90's.

I've owned one in auto, really didn't do the car any justice at all.

Presently have a Series 3 XJ12 with a 5sp manual conversion, the auto box in those was a 3 speed and although the manual isn't exactly the last word in precision it's far nicer than the auto.

waftycranker

223 posts

90 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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I’m all for a manual sports car but I’d rather have this with a slush box.

And are modern automatics really better than what’s in this?

I’ve never driven this age of Jag, or any Jag for that matter, but I had a similar aged Merc C class that had a beautifully smooth gearbox, better by orders of magnitude than the auto in the wife’s five year old Q3.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Maybe for me it's a size thing - when a car reaches a certain size and bulk I just feel an auto seems a better fit. I remember my aunt had a 280SE with a manual box and even as a child it just looked wrong and was clearly an unsatisfactory mixture.

Jag XJS Manuals are about but while the auto wasn't great I still feel the manual isn't quite right, tried a 4.0 sport once and seemed out of character and that would presumably have been the best fit.

Be interesting to try, an intriguing car.

d_a_n1979

13,788 posts

102 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Looks lovely

But 2 things really wrong with it; it's a manual and it's priced at a laughable amount!

Fastlane

1,349 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Funnily enough, I saw this very car today at the garage that is selling it. It does look in very nice condition, but £20k...

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Fastlane said:
Funnily enough, I saw this very car today at the garage that is selling it. It does look in very nice condition, but £20k...
£20k gets a nice condition E39 M5, better in every way as a drivers car.

Everything that the XJR was better at, is suited to an auto.

Stil, if I had a collection of Jaguars, and lots of money (I have neither), then I would be tempted by this.

thegreenhell

24,044 posts

249 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Nice, but not £20k nice.

Slightly OT - people of a certain age will be more familiar with this car dealer's sister company, and Anneka Rice jumping out of one of their helicopters in a bright one-piece every week.

E30KB

301 posts

94 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Never mind the Jag, how much for the jet ?

Filibuster

3,403 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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British Beef said:
£20k gets a nice condition E39 M5, better in every way as a drivers car.

Everything that the XJR was better at, is suited to an auto.

Stil, if I had a collection of Jaguars, and lots of money (I have neither), then I would be tempted by this.
Very well put!
At the end of the day, I'd have an automatic X308 XJR tough.

thegreenhell

24,044 posts

249 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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How much of the asking price is for the number plate?

alec.e

2,149 posts

154 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Auto X308 XJR instead please

Sure it’s a nice curio, but a XJ should be auto

borat52

Original Poster:

585 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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waftycranker said:
I’m all for a manual sports car but I’d rather have this with a slush box.

And are modern automatics really better than what’s in this?
Modern auto's are a world away from the box in this, even the later X308 which has a merc 5 speed box feels horribly dated relative to a modern auto.

Maybe it's just me but old auto boxes in performance cars are pretty horrible things.