Should I be honest about a fault when selling?
Should I be honest about a fault when selling?
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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I feel a bit of a muppet. I was removing the dash cam on our MPV (used for transporting kids to uni.) as we’re selling it. It’s going in for part-exchange on Monday.

Whoever we bought it from decided to wrap the cam wiring around another harness so it all looked like one to me!

Snip I went and fault codes emerged for the rear side lights. Great I thought… I can be my own critic and if anyone can get an oscar for self-degradation it’s probably me.

After an hour of moping… I decided to attempt a home repair but to no success.

No local auto electricians are returning my calls. Friday evening who would?!

Should I point this out to the dealer on Monday?
Will they likely spot it?
Having a look online the harness is about £35. A few connectors are £10 a piece.

It got me thinking though after reading this article online:
https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/does-seller-declare...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing so looking back I don’t know why I bothered when it’s an old camera and they probably don’t make the harness anymore for it.

What would you do?
Leave it and let them spot it? Or just tell them?
No other faults on the car.

Apologies about this post I am probably still annoyed with myself. Been working on cars for years and it’s the first time I have done something quite stupid.

Xcore

1,547 posts

121 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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To a dealer? They are the experts, let them spot it.

Monkeylegend

29,588 posts

262 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Do the lights still work?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
Do the lights still work?
Side lights. No. Brake lights. Yes.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Xcore said:
To a dealer? They are the experts, let them spot it.
What are the chances they’d call me after and make a song and dance out of it?

I just want a restful week with no headaches. I am off next week and we’ve had enough after wife lost both parents to COVID earlier this week within the span of 3 days.

If they are likely to pursue me for £100 or something after noticing cut wires a few days later.. I’d rather they knock that off the exchange and leave me be.

We’ve got two funerals to be getting on with.

pork911

7,365 posts

214 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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A buyer should always beware but how have you got to this point in life without knowing what sort of person you decide to be daily?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Having said that I have part-exchanged 4 cars in the past and each time the dealership just checked the mileage, walked around quickly, and focused on the V5… might be okay. Not the end of the world.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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pork911 said:
A buyer should always beware but how have you got to this point in life without knowing what sort of person you decide to be daily?
I don’t know. Since furlough I became a bit depressed. I am a lot better but still a way to go. I lost my business and have been slowly rebuilding life.

Monkeylegend

29,588 posts

262 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Personally I would tell them, they will find out anyway and if they find the reason they will probably know you knew.

But many will say, as has already been said, they are the experts so don't tell them. Then the same people will go on to say how crooked most car dealers are and will rip you off at any opportunity smile

However if it is part ex and you are buying another car from them you don't want to give them a reason for being awkward if you have a problem with it.

What would you also expect to happen if the car they sell you has sidelights that don't work?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
Personally I would tell them, they will find out anyway and if they find the reason they will probably know you knew.

But many will say, as has already been said, they are the experts so don't tell them. Then the same people will go on to say how crooked most car dealers are and will rip you off at any opportunity smile

However if it is part ex and you are buying another car from them you don't want to give them a reason for being awkward if you have a problem with it.

What would you also expect to happen if the car they sell you has sidelights that don't work?
You’re so right. I will point it out.

anonymous-user

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85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Thanks everyone case closed.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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I might manage to forget I saw the fault codes, if that is all that had happened. I don't think I could forget actively cutting the wires on their car just before exchange.

captain.scarlet

1,891 posts

65 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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A bit late to the discussion but as you're part-exchanging it they'll assess whether it's good enough for resale or most likely (especially if a large dealer franchise) simply send it off to auction to let auctioneers deal with it and claw back money for them.

RedAlfa

480 posts

215 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Xcore said:
To a dealer? They are the experts, let them spot it.
I agree. When it come to selling used cars, franchised and independent dealers are economical with the truth. If it's a dealer, fk them. Let them find the problems hehe

Wacky Racer

41,411 posts

278 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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I would be upfront with them.

Their auto electrician will probably fix it in a few minutes, if you tell them where the issue is, because they won't spend ages trying to locate it.

FazerBoy

1,009 posts

181 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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A decent, honest person would tell them.

jonysan

420 posts

59 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Tell them exactly what happened, they can decide whether to continue with the deal at the agreed price, or re value and possibly lose the deal .
From the sounds of it, it's not going to cost much to reconnect some wiring.
You will feel better about yourself, and also If you need to go back to the dealer with a possible warranty problem on the vehicle you bought from them. You will already have the 'moral high ground'. Always a good place to fight from!

TarquinMX5

2,698 posts

111 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Prank Sinatra said:
Monkeylegend said:
Personally I would tell them, they will find out anyway and if they find the reason they will probably know you knew.

But many will say, as has already been said, they are the experts so don't tell them. Then the same people will go on to say how crooked most car dealers are and will rip you off at any opportunity smile

However if it is part ex and you are buying another car from them you don't want to give them a reason for being awkward if you have a problem with it.

What would you also expect to happen if the car they sell you has sidelights that don't work?
You’re so right. I will point it out.
This ^^.

It's (very) frustrating but you already knew the correct answer, otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

I don't have a problem with people moaning about dealers when they're at fault but I do have a problem with people criticising or moaning about others when they do similar things themselves.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Wacky Racer said:
I would be upfront with them.

Their auto electrician will probably fix it in a few minutes, if you tell them where the issue is, because they won't spend ages trying to locate it.
True

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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TarquinMX5 said:
Prank Sinatra said:
Monkeylegend said:
Personally I would tell them, they will find out anyway and if they find the reason they will probably know you knew.

But many will say, as has already been said, they are the experts so don't tell them. Then the same people will go on to say how crooked most car dealers are and will rip you off at any opportunity smile

However if it is part ex and you are buying another car from them you don't want to give them a reason for being awkward if you have a problem with it.

What would you also expect to happen if the car they sell you has sidelights that don't work?
You’re so right. I will point it out.
This ^^.

It's (very) frustrating but you already knew the correct answer, otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

I don't have a problem with people moaning about dealers when they're at fault but I do have a problem with people criticising or moaning about others when they do similar things themselves.
Roger