RE: Audi S1 | Spotted
RE: Audi S1 | Spotted
Tuesday 12th April 2022

Audi S1 | Spotted

Audi hot hatches are rare, and good ones even more so - which makes the S1 a special little car indeed



Back when the Audi S1 was launched in 2014, its mechanical spec looked odd. In a good way, it should be said. Less than a decade later and it looks almost miraculous that the car happened at all. Here was an A1 with a 2.0-litre turbocharged engine (when the most powerful petrol up to then was just 1.4), yet a different 2.0-litre turbo engine to the A1 Quattro that previewed the S1. It had a bespoke multi-link rear axle because that was fundamental to accommodating four-wheel drive. (That axle was given the go ahead, don't forget, despite robbing space from an already small boot - talk about commitment.) The standard six-speed manual was the only transmission option, and you could even have a three-door S1 if desired. It's remarkable to think, with Audi's electric push in full flow, that it sold a 2.0-litre, three-door, manual only hot hatch as recently as 2018.

It was a good one, too, somewhat against expectations. Sure, it was heavy, and those after Fiesta ST-style thrills were still better served by the Ford - but the Audi was far more fun than anyone anticipated. In the right mode the suspension suited bumpy Britain, it was more agile and eager than the kerbweight implied, and the torquey turbo engine delivered plentiful performance. Even the gearbox was quite satisfying to use. Finally, the Mini Cooper S had a proper rival in the premium pocket rocket arena. And Audi had a hot hatch it could be really proud of, albeit a reassuringly expensive one.

Still, those who did fork out £25k for an S1 (sometimes more than £30,000, depending on options) have been handsomely rewarded come resale time. While no doubt helped by the recent boom in used car values, the residual strength of the S1 has always been strong. Believe it or not there are still cars for sale at £25,000. But you need not pay that much; this S1, the cheapest in the classifieds thanks to an above average mileage of 88,000, is £13,995.



With precious few options to add when new (at least by Audi standards), it was hard to make an S1 that didn't appeal, but this one really hits the spot. Sepang Blue is way more interesting than black, silver, or white, the three-door body lends it some old-school cool, and it has a premium audio upgrade. The S1 has had two owners in eight years and comes with a full main dealer service history, plus recent discs, pads and tyres. Those wheels have been refurbed as well, so careful how you park it. The mileage will inevitably put some buyers off, but this could well be a canny cheaper buy for someone not planning to add loads more motorway miles.

Furthermore, hate to break it to you, but everything is kinda pricey right now. A Mini Cooper S JCW is the most obvious rival as another 2.0-litre hot hatch with 231hp, and this privately offered 2016 car is also almost £14k. There are Abarth 595s of a similar vintage (albeit with far fewer miles) for this money. And the Audi did actually use a version of the EA888 engine more powerful and torquier than a Mk7 Golf GTI Performance Pack - most of those are £15k and above.

So while a £14k, eight-year-old Audi A1 will remain a tough sell to some, it's hardly alone. And we'd surely all prefer that an expensive S1 happened than none at all - because you ain't getting another one, that's for damn certain.


SPECIFICATION | AUDI S1

Engine: 1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 231@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 273@1,600-3,000rpm
MPG: 40.4 (NEDC)
CO2: 166g/km (NEDC)
First registered: 2014
Recorded mileage: 88,000
Price new: £25,635 (Sportback)
Yours for: £13,995

See the original advert here




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Tomatogti

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383 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Tomatogti

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383 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Don’t like Audis in general. But always had a soft spot for these. A younger me in the market for a HH would have this on the shortlist.

Macron

13,518 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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The wife had one for ages.

Not quick by modern standards. You sit on it, not in it bc 4WD.

Good theory, poor execution.

Had the sports seats which were nice. Apart from that, it was bland.

paddy1970

1,521 posts

140 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Was going to buy one but after test driving 3 (2017/2018) I came to the conclusion that it represents very poor value for money (£20k+). The interior is very outdated, and the rest of the car is only average. It only makes sense if you are going to keep it as a " modern classic" and do very little mileage. If you plan to dd it, a fiesta ST is unbeatable.

Ray_Aber

985 posts

307 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Not a fan. It always looked like an Allegro to me, with its chubby barrel sides. I also thought it was a retrograde step after the daring and brave A2.

A solid car though. Just not my cup of tea.

mintmansam

475 posts

72 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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This sowed the seed for me getting the GR Yaris

I liked this on paper, but at the time (like article said) I had a Mk7 ST and I was left a bit disappointed by the S1

Fast forward a few years and you've got a sharper version of this from Toyota (in my view)

I had hoped VW would use the architecture and make a Polo R/WRC 4WD special

Sometime fun and equally mad about small "light" 4WD cars

The A1 is one of those cars that can look good, but somedays at some angles it looks odd. A trait of plenty of post 2010 cars if im honest, normally the side profile high "waist line" and small wheels relatively to the body

Edited by mintmansam on Wednesday 13th April 08:19

Lodgey72

27 posts

94 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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I loved the idea of these and really fancied one as a used car. But but even new the reception was warm at best and a test drive didn’t blow me away. . Shame really because usually this format is an unbeatable formula for a small car but a Golf Gti was just better (and bigger I know) in every way. This could have been the Yaris GR for Audi.. Probably will end up as one of those classics later where prices soar and you scratch your head and think, ‘er..weren’t they a little bit crap?’..

cerb4.5lee

45,264 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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I've always wanted one of these(still do) and it was in very strong contention when I was looking to buy a brand new manual F56 Cooper S a few years ago.

The fact that is was only offered with a 3 pedal manual was a big draw for me, and I saw it as a bit of an enthusiasts car(even the quicker Minis come with 2 pedals...which I've never truly understood apart from grabbing some more sales from women/the elderly).

I have read that they aren't all the great to drive from some of their owners though, but I would like a go in one myself to see.

cerb4.5lee

45,264 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Macron said:
Had the sports seats which were nice. Apart from that, it was bland.
I'd like the sports seats too if I went for one. I used to see a Java Green one at my daughters school a few years ago and it always turned my head. It is a shame to hear that they are so bland though.

Numeric

1,499 posts

182 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Having had a Mini JCW this looked like a practical upgrade when a new vehicle was required as my partner of the time liked small quick cars, but it just didn't really feel all that special. I guess the hope was what the Yaris represents today, but instead it felt all sort of grown up and far from fire breathing, and not 'fun' like the JCW.


Wab1974uk

1,426 posts

58 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Always liked the S1. Nearly ordered one, but due to circumstances, I needed something a bit bigger, so ordered an S3 instead.

S1 with a stage 1 chip, would have been good fun.

Volare

447 posts

94 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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"Audi hot hatches are rare"

Ay? Since when?

pb8g09

3,295 posts

100 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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I'm sure there will be plenty coming on here that have never driven one stating how cr*p they are etc.

I owned one. Can't believe someone said they were slow - they are rapid, especially cross country. The boot was small (but didn't matter to a then 27 year old). You have to treat the gearbox/clutch like it's made of chocolate and many people replaced it with an uprated one. Many were also tuned as the engine could easily be remapped to 300bhp.

It's the only car I've ever owned that I miss, because the idea of a little 4wd hatch now is perfect for my usage but they just never depreciated down to a point I'd buy one back and at the time £18k worth of metal was too much for me to not stress about. Disagree with the article though- many were poor spec and had the basic 'leather' seats which felt like rubbery plastic and also the flat bottom steering wheel and the uprated gearknob (if you've got one you'll know) are pretty much essential items if I ever got another.

They've always been priced high on the used market, even before covid, but they also seem to take a while to sell. It's a lot of money for a less practical S3.

3795mpower

509 posts

161 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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I know two people who owned these from new & very quickly
Got bored with them and moved them on.
They bought them based on the on paper spec and were
Disappointed with the drive,

matchmaker

9,090 posts

231 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Volare said:
"Audi hot hatches are rare"

Ay? Since when?
laughlaughlaugh

Water Fairy

6,652 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Considering one of these for the good lady in a couple of years time. Think she would love it.

cerb4.5lee

45,264 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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pb8g09 said:
Disagree with the article though- many were poor spec and had the basic 'leather' seats which felt like rubbery plastic and also the flat bottom steering wheel and the uprated gearknob (if you've got one you'll know) are pretty much essential items if I ever got another.
Heated seats are a must have for me, and when I've been looking at them not many seemed to have heated seats either.

Om

2,204 posts

109 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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Volare said:
"Audi hot hatches are rare"

Ay? Since when?
The dawn of time?

Om

2,204 posts

109 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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I looked at the S1 a few years ago when I was looking for something quick.

They did get reviewed positively when new:

And they are quite modified from a standard A1 with new independent rear suspension to allow for the 4wd gubbins. I believe they were manual only as there wasn't room for a DSG in the space available, though I understand the clutch is marginal in this application so remapper beware.

At the end of the day I thought they were just a bit 'normal' which is kind of the point of a hot hatch, but not where I wanted to be at the time. I went for the 370Z and kept the Fabia as a daily, which is pretty much the same as an S1 apart from the 2lt turbo, 4wd, 6spd, 18" wheels, big brakes, lowered suspension, electric dampers and leather interior.

Cammy K20

6 posts

78 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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When I had graduated from my VW apprenticeship, VW sent that year of apprentices to Rockingham for a graduation ceremony you got carted about various parts of Rockingham doing different activities in VWG cars and vans. On the infield of the track was a selection of cars including an S4, Passat GTE, T6 sportline van, an S1 and a few other mundane VWG products. You then got to go out with a professional driver in the passenger seat for a couple of laps. The S1 was by far the most fun and capable car there and it still sticks in my mind as the best car I drove that day. The professional drivers weren't VW employees and you were encouraged to drive on the absolute limit, great car on that day and on that track and would probably consider owning one the ST probably is more fun but I couldn't live with the interior.