RE: Porsche shows all-electric Cayman GT4 ePerformance
RE: Porsche shows all-electric Cayman GT4 ePerformance
Monday 16th May 2022

Porsche shows all-electric Cayman GT4 ePerformance

Want to know what a zero-emission Cayman will look like? Porsche drops its first hint with 1000hp racing test bed


We’ve already written about the Porsche Misson R concept, which is the firm’s vision for an all-electric customer motorsports vehicle using "state-of-the-art technologies and sustainable materials... with a passion for racing." Well, the concept has become part-reality in the form of the Porsche Cayman GT4 ePerformance. This mobile test bed is being used to evaluate the concept car’s potential for national and international GT racing. 

The GT4 ePerformance is underpinned by a development of the 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport’s chassis. It ditches flat-six petrol power for an all-wheel-drive electric powertrain ‘consisting of a permanently excited synchronous machine’ or (PESM) – as always, Porsche is never one to shy away from acronyms. The PESM, delivers a total peak power output of - wait for it - 1,088hp. Even with all-wheel drive, that ought to give the drivers something to think about on a wet weekend. That power output is for qualifying spec, though. For a race it will be reduced to 612hp (Pah! A mere 612hp) that will be available for 30 minutes – the duration of a Carrera Cup race. According to Porsche, the top speed (around 186mph) and lap times of the GT4 ePerformance will be similar to a 992 GT3 Cup car.

To keep the car’s race performance consistent, Porsche has developed its own oil cooling for the motors and battery pack. According to Björn Förster, the GT4 ePerformance project manager, this “has significantly impacted the vehicle concept.” He added “With experts in the fields of aerodynamics and thermodynamics as well as high-voltage and bodywork specialists, the development team created an architecture to tap the full potential of the battery cells for the first time, since there is no thermal derating. In this way, the power output in racing mode remains constant for half an hour.” The charging system runs at 900 volts, so the GT4 ePerformance can be boosted from 5 to 80 per cent in around 15 minutes.

As we said, the chassis concept is based on a 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport but it is 14cm wider thanks to its exaggerated arches, which are there to accommodate wider 18-inch Michelin racing rubber. The car also contains in the region of 6,000 unique parts and more sustainable materials – the bodywork, for example, includes natural fibre composites that generate fewer emissions during production than the equivalent synthetic composites.

The GT4 ePerformance will have its first public outing at the Goodwood Festival of Speed this year (that runs from June 23 to 26 in case you fancy booking tickets). Its next demo will be at the Porsche factory in Leipzig and then it’ll embark on a world tour. In line with the ‘race2zero’ project it won’t be flown anywhere – its destinations, which will include North America and Asia, will be reached by ship, train and truck.

Oliver Schwab, Project Manager Sales, says, “The 718 Cayman GT4 ePerformance blazes a trail to Porsche customer racing with electrically-powered racing cars. As a first step, we will unveil this concept to our global partners. With drivers, teams, organisers, authorities and other interested parties, we’re also gathering ideas for Porsche racing formats in the future.”


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Slowlygettingit

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Potentially interesting and relatively low weight thus far.
What extra weight would a lightweight interior and some more real world range add?
In fact if being used for spirited weekend driving instead of race pace what might the range be?

Edited by Slowlygettingit on Monday 16th May 10:59

flatsix.ant

532 posts

167 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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So what if you don’t actually want a sports car that is just way too quick for the road, and instead want something to extract 8 or 9 tenths of performance from, that has a lovely soundtrack that puts a smile on your face, and that gets you involved even at lower speeds…?

I'll take a gorgeous flat six any day with a fraction of the power.

steveb8189

516 posts

222 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Slowlygettingit said:
Potentially interesting and relatively low weight thus far.
What extra weight would a lightweight interior and some more real world range add?
In fact if being used for spirited weekend driving instead of race pace what might the range be?

Edited by Slowlygettingit on Monday 16th May 10:59
Reading elsehwere it currently has an 82 kWh battery which isn't too shabby. Based on the 30 minute race in which they hope to get 30kWh of regen (!) that's about 0.5 miles / kWh for about 50 miles.

I imagine in the real world this thing could manage about 100 - 150 miles of reasonably spirited road driving. 15 minutes to charge from 5% - 85% is the kicker here. If and when the charging infrastructure can support that you could have a good blast around inbetween brief coffee stops. Despite the name this is hardly ever going to be a GT car.

Slowlygettingit

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But gives hope that genuine ev sports cars might start coming to market once the glut of SUVs being launched is over and manufacturers look to the other parts of the industry

D4rez

1,668 posts

87 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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flatsix.ant said:
So what if you don’t actually want a sports car that is just way too quick for the road, and instead want something to extract 8 or 9 tenths of performance from, that has a lovely soundtrack that puts a smile on your face, and that gets you involved even at lower speeds…?

I'll take a gorgeous flat six any day with a fraction of the power.
This is a testbed for the track cars that are built off the next 718 platform which is all electric from 18 months time.

EDLT

15,421 posts

237 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Is it faster than a Formula E car? It sounds like it will be able to race on real circuits, at least.

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

231 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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flatsix.ant said:
So what if you don’t actually want a sports car that is just way too quick for the road, and instead want something to extract 8 or 9 tenths of performance from, that has a lovely soundtrack that puts a smile on your face, and that gets you involved even at lower speeds…?

I'll take a gorgeous flat six any day with a fraction of the power.
Agreed.
I had a drive last year in a friends early Boxster 986 2.5 with small wheels.
What a perfectly willing and able sports car for the road.

Ian974

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230 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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D4rez said:
This is a testbed for the track cars that are built off the next 718 platform which is all electric from 18 months time.
While I've no issue with electric stuff, surely they're going to struggle to have something which would have a comparable usability to the equivalent GT3/ GT4 cars for a good few years still?
GT/ enduro races aren't 30 minutes long and a pitstop isn't currently 15 minutes either.

swanny71

3,601 posts

240 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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flatsix.ant said:
So what if you don’t actually want a sports car that is just way too quick for the road, and instead want something to extract 8 or 9 tenths of performance from, that has a lovely soundtrack that puts a smile on your face, and that gets you involved even at lower speeds…?
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Keep a hold of what you’ve already got - I will be, for as long as possible.

Slowlygettingit

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Monday 16th May 2022
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Last week I did a 510 mile round trip in my polestar 2.
Left home with 100% charge and had to do 2 ~45minute charges during the day to complete the trip - ending at home with tiny bit of range left.
A big chunk of the day was motorway sat at 70mph but equally a good chunk was on some fantastic A roads both sides of the northumberland / Scottish border.
This allowed for some pretty spirited driving by me and a colleague. I’m pretty used to the car now and it is by no means a sports car but he was blown away with the cornering ability and the acceleration. Vertical crests still and issue due to weight.
I’m really positive about the future for ev sports cars and although I do miss the noise and the manuals box it has very quickly gone from being a ‘must have’ to none essential.
Once a real ev sports car (2 seater coupe / convertible) with a couple of hours / 150 mile range I’d be very interested.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

36,729 posts

243 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Ian974 said:
D4rez said:
This is a testbed for the track cars that are built off the next 718 platform which is all electric from 18 months time.
While I've no issue with electric stuff, surely they're going to struggle to have something which would have a comparable usability to the equivalent GT3/ GT4 cars for a good few years still?
GT/ enduro races aren't 30 minutes long and a pitstop isn't currently 15 minutes either.
He interesting to know how it'd fair at the 24 hours of Le Mans....!

Jon_S_Rally

4,509 posts

119 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Why have they made it 4WD? Was that actually necessary?

Would seem to make more sense to make it 2WD, surely? More engagement, more challenging to drive, less weight etc etc.

redroadster

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263 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Pity it's coming to this noise is one of the things that makes a car interesting to me.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

36,729 posts

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Monday 16th May 2022
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Why have they made it 4WD? Was that actually necessary?

Would seem to make more sense to make it 2WD, surely? More engagement, more challenging to drive, less weight etc etc.
I reckon with 1000bhp 4WD probably is quite handy.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

187 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Why have they made it 4WD? Was that actually necessary?

Would seem to make more sense to make it 2WD, surely? More engagement, more challenging to drive, less weight etc etc.
Slower as you would not get the same power as you do with the 4WD. The limiting factor is the Inverter on the drive units. You will not get 1000PS through just one.

Olivera

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Monday 16th May 2022
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I'll be astonished if the (alleged) next-gen EV Boxster/Cayman is anything other than a hugely fat bd. A 20% shrunk Taycan is still going to be knocking on the door of 2 tonnes. Can someone please tell me I'm wrong?

Charlie_1

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Monday 16th May 2022
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swanny71 said:
flatsix.ant said:
So what if you don’t actually want a sports car that is just way too quick for the road, and instead want something to extract 8 or 9 tenths of performance from, that has a lovely soundtrack that puts a smile on your face, and that gets you involved even at lower speeds…?
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Keep a hold of what you’ve already got - I will be, for as long as possible.
Yes in the last 20 years I dont think I have owned any car more than 3 years , but when I look at what the future apparently is I think you are right

T1berious

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186 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Quite excited by this and where EV sports cars will go in the next few years.

Porsche unfortunately can't go too wild on the Cayman \ Boxster EV platform as they need to keep enough distance from the 911 based cars.

450 Bhp sounds decent in a Cayman EV

T1berious

2,680 posts

186 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Quite excited by this and where EV sports cars will go in the next few years.

Porsche unfortunately can't go too wild on the Cayman \ Boxster EV platform as they need to keep enough distance from the 911 based cars.

450 Bhp sounds decent in a Cayman EV

Terminator X

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235 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Fast then but will it be any "fun"? Also what does it weigh + what will the street version weigh when not #racecar

TX.