Saving money in a diesel. Heating oil.

[lrdisco]

I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

[the-norseman]

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[Ouroboros]

I worked out at around 1 pound a litre of veg oil, you could make your own bio diesel for 1.50 a litre.

What's gets me is how diesel is a prime candidate for other fuel sources.

[bennno]

lrdisco said:

I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

Adherence to the law?

[lrdisco]

bennno said:

lrdisco said:

I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

Adherence to the law?

What just like our government adheres to the law?

[vikingaero]

lrdisco said:

bennno said:

lrdisco said:

I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

Adherence to the law?

What just like our government adheres to the law?

You crack on then!

[Jawls]

lrdisco said:

I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

Heating kero is marked (it’s got a yellow dye in it). Buying unmarked kero requires paperwork that isn’t realistically available to average Joe (unmarked kero used in stuff like firelighter production). No idea how the yellow dye would interact with white diesel.

[Baldchap]

I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.

[_Hoppers]

lrdisco said:

bennno said:

lrdisco said:

I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

Adherence to the law?

What just like our government adheres to the law?

As long as you break it in a "specific and limited way" you'll be fine

[Pica-Pica]

vikingaero said:

lrdisco said:

bennno said:

lrdisco said:

I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

Adherence to the law?

What just like our government adheres to the law?

You crack on then!

Indeed. Some of us hold ourselves to higher standard than the PM.

[Ivan stewart]

Baldchap said:

I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.

Only ones that aren’t allowed to use rebated fuel it’s only a dye ..

[ChocolateFrog]

I'm sure 1000's, probably tens of thousands of people do just that.

Like you pointed out you could be saving as much as £50 a tank and just look around at the things people will do to save a couple of quid.

I may have seen SVO and used engine oil thrown straight into the tank. It wasn't anything to do with the engine or fuel system that eventually killed that Vectra.

[Ouroboros]

Buy an old diesel, run it on anything. Modern cars you are playing with fire.

[anonymous-user]

Baldchap said:

I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.

That simply isn’t the case, check out the complexity of modern tractor engines they certainly won’t run on low quality fuel.

I used to run my old Omega (bmw straight six) on cooking oil without issue, it was a bit cheaper but also a bit of a faff buying the drums and physically fuelling it.

[TCX]

Ivan stewart said:

Baldchap said:

I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.

Only ones that aren’t allowed to use rebated fuel it’s only a dye ..

Engines in plant seemed to manage ok,most of problems were people using dirty drums to 'aquire' red diesel with knock on effect to common rail engines

[normalbloke]

Jet fuel works well too, apparently.

[Rawhide]

Heating oil is Kerosene. I have to order about 500l per month for my home The cost is now between 80p to 100p per litre.

I've looked into this already and I think the short answer is that you would need to run about a 50:50 mix of kerosene to diesel on a modern engine.

Even then I think the risks would outweigh the benefits.

[J__Wood]

A few years back, but I don't think it has changed, down in the antarctic all the diesel kit ran on Kerosene with a little two stroke oil for lubrication. Done so they don't get waxing issue.

[bennno]

Rawhide said:

Heating oil is Kerosene. I have to order about 500l per month for my home The cost is now between 80p to 100p per litre.

I've looked into this already and I think the short answer is that you would need to run about a 50:50 mix of kerosene to diesel on a modern engine.

Even then I think the risks would outweigh the benefits.

28second heating oil is kerosene, 35 sec oil is the same as red diesel

[Nefos]

Baldchap said:

I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.

One of the main issue with red diesel is that it is not always stored as neatly as normal fuel, especially if you get in barrels or whatnot and it can get water and dirt in. For trucks/tractors it is not an issue as they have a very good diesel filtering system, that filters out dirt and water, and we are talking about pretty large filters. AFAIK modern cars don't have water filter, plus they have a relatively small filters.