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Why is VED such a nonsensical mess?
The cost of vehicle tax doesn't align with economy or emissions due to the grandfathering of old tax regimes, and it bears no relation to usage - which is probably the biggest effect on pollution and traffic congestion.
Why isn't it scrapped and the overall tax take from VED directed onto fuel taxes? Surely there would be huge savings to be had in removing all the staff and admin costs for the VED system. And it would be a nice earner as any foreign vehicles also get subjected to the tax while using UK roads.
Seems bloody ridiculous that if I buy a second car to use only a few times a year that I get taxed £100's when someone in a not really that environmentally friendly hybrid can do 30k miles a year for £20 tax.
The cost of vehicle tax doesn't align with economy or emissions due to the grandfathering of old tax regimes, and it bears no relation to usage - which is probably the biggest effect on pollution and traffic congestion.
Why isn't it scrapped and the overall tax take from VED directed onto fuel taxes? Surely there would be huge savings to be had in removing all the staff and admin costs for the VED system. And it would be a nice earner as any foreign vehicles also get subjected to the tax while using UK roads.
Seems bloody ridiculous that if I buy a second car to use only a few times a year that I get taxed £100's when someone in a not really that environmentally friendly hybrid can do 30k miles a year for £20 tax.
It didn't used to bother me but it is starting to properly piss me off now.
Some stuff is just ludicrous (eg. motorbikes).
We have....
SL350 £630
SLK350 £315
Alfa 159 £200
Yamaha R1 2017 £90
Yamaha R1 1999 £90
KTM250 £75
(figures approximate as I don't know).
That's a total of £1400 (it might be more as I'm not sure on the Alfa) which is considerably more than the insurance cost. The cars do a couple of thousand miles each, the bikes hardly get used apart from the 2017 R1 as I am simply too busy.
I'm actually getting so annoyed with it that for the first time ever I'm going to sorn the bottom two bikes at the end of this month
£90 a year for a motorbike, when a small car is like £20 is a bloody joke, and the £600+ bracket, wtf
and yet still ULEZ compliant! Total joke.
Some stuff is just ludicrous (eg. motorbikes).
We have....
SL350 £630
SLK350 £315
Alfa 159 £200
Yamaha R1 2017 £90
Yamaha R1 1999 £90
KTM250 £75
(figures approximate as I don't know).
That's a total of £1400 (it might be more as I'm not sure on the Alfa) which is considerably more than the insurance cost. The cars do a couple of thousand miles each, the bikes hardly get used apart from the 2017 R1 as I am simply too busy.
I'm actually getting so annoyed with it that for the first time ever I'm going to sorn the bottom two bikes at the end of this month
£90 a year for a motorbike, when a small car is like £20 is a bloody joke, and the £600+ bracket, wtf
and yet still ULEZ compliant! Total joke.Basing it just on fuel is probably fair. What I'd really hate to see is tracking and mileage charges. Fuel is effectively a mileage tax but without the black box.
The current tax regime looks a lot like a fun tax. Anything you'd really like to drive seems to be expensive and the things you must drive for commuting ect seem to be cheaper. A disincentive to buying a lot of weird and wonderful machinery. Particularly from the mid-naughties.
The current tax regime looks a lot like a fun tax. Anything you'd really like to drive seems to be expensive and the things you must drive for commuting ect seem to be cheaper. A disincentive to buying a lot of weird and wonderful machinery. Particularly from the mid-naughties.
sherman said:
Charge everyone a flat £100 a year to drive on the road electric and dino juice cars.
Toll roads would not be a bad thing for the most used roads.
I'm really not in favour of coercive behaviour management techniques by big brother. So I really like your £100 flat fee idea but really dislike your special tax (toll) for the roads people want to use the most. Toll roads would not be a bad thing for the most used roads.
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