Disabled Parking at Supermarkets - what's the point
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I know - probably been done to death on here - but possibility of using it for Father-in-law has started me to look at it more closely as i walk by supermarkets, shops, cafe's etc. and it seems everyone just parks there , either with someone waiting in the car, or just blatant "dont give a s
t" lazyness - very few have blue badges....i doubt the supermarkets/shops can enforce it, apart from maybe not serving the customer (but how would they know) - unless they 3rd party it out to some car parking company ..... so why bother, is it some sort of council regulation to set aside 'x' number of spots , or just a cudos thing for the supermarket / shop to say they have disabled parking....
They are obviously there to help those with a genuine disability access the shops. (No problem with that.)
The fact tts abuse them 'I'll only be a minute' is just sad reflection on today's society and general scummy behaviour.
We have to hope that those selfish individuals become disabled and then can't find a space because a 'tt' has parked in them.
The fact t
ts abuse them 'I'll only be a minute' is just sad reflection on today's society and general scummy behaviour.We have to hope that those selfish individuals become disabled and then can't find a space because a 't
t' has parked in them. I don't know about the legality of it but the wider bays are the only ones I can use as someone who doesn't stand or walk at all and relies solely on my car and wheelchair for mobility.
They don't have to be too close to the entrance but they do need to be wide enough to let me push my door wide open and place the wheelchair by it.
Before wide bays I used to have to hunt for end of row spots - but that was before lots of the supermarkets installed kerbing.
It's always seemed to me that there should be two types of badge: one for wheelchair users who need wide bays and one for people who can't walk far. The former could be located almost anywhere while the latter could be located near the shop entrance but don't need to be wide.
They don't have to be too close to the entrance but they do need to be wide enough to let me push my door wide open and place the wheelchair by it.
Before wide bays I used to have to hunt for end of row spots - but that was before lots of the supermarkets installed kerbing.
It's always seemed to me that there should be two types of badge: one for wheelchair users who need wide bays and one for people who can't walk far. The former could be located almost anywhere while the latter could be located near the shop entrance but don't need to be wide.
rider73 said:
I know - probably been done to death on here - but possibility of using it for Father-in-law has started me to look at it more closely as i walk by supermarkets, shops, cafe's etc. and it seems everyone just parks there , either with someone waiting in the car, or just blatant "dont give a st" lazyness - very few have blue badges....
i doubt the supermarkets/shops can enforce it, apart from maybe not serving the customer (but how would they know) - unless they 3rd party it out to some car parking company ..... so why bother, is it some sort of council regulation to set aside 'x' number of spots , or just a cudos thing for the supermarket / shop to say they have disabled parking....
not just disable, parent and children parking bay, EV/PHEV charging bay, those bay reserve for cash transport van (no idea what it call). People just dont give a fxxk. Many of my friend don't care how they park as long as they fit into the whiteline. Common sense and courtesy diminish as soon as they jump into a cart" lazyness - very few have blue badges....i doubt the supermarkets/shops can enforce it, apart from maybe not serving the customer (but how would they know) - unless they 3rd party it out to some car parking company ..... so why bother, is it some sort of council regulation to set aside 'x' number of spots , or just a cudos thing for the supermarket / shop to say they have disabled parking....
I'm happy to be corrected but I don't believe there are any specific requirements to have disabled parking bays, let alone the number, but large stores must make provisions for disabled customers according to the Equality Act of 2010, whether that be a lift or flat escalator in multi-level stores, store-use mobility scooters on offer near the entrance, wheelchair-friendly trolleys... or some disabled parking bays.
I mentioned it to a colleague of mine who used to be a branding manager quite high up at Sainsbury's and she said that large stores tend to aim for 5% of parking allocated to disabled customers.
I mentioned it to a colleague of mine who used to be a branding manager quite high up at Sainsbury's and she said that large stores tend to aim for 5% of parking allocated to disabled customers.
just lazy bi'm all for disabled parking spaces, but i've yet to see a car park where there were anywhere near being full. my local sainsburys supermarket has 26 disabled spaces (and a further 35 parent and child spaces) for some reason, and whenever i go, they are 90% unused.
perhaps other areas of the country differ to mine, but certainly round here disabled parking doesnt ever seem to be a problem, there are probably 4 times as many spaces are people who use them.
So, im not particularly surprised that non disabled people are using them...
perhaps other areas of the country differ to mine, but certainly round here disabled parking doesnt ever seem to be a problem, there are probably 4 times as many spaces are people who use them.
So, im not particularly surprised that non disabled people are using them...
At my local Sainsburys yesterday, they were all being used and in fact somebody waiting for one to become vacant. This was at 1pm on a Thursday!
The issue is that there are courteous notices up and the entitlement is not policed. With an ageing population, there'll be more demand I expect.
The issue is that there are courteous notices up and the entitlement is not policed. With an ageing population, there'll be more demand I expect.
I don't think you need a blue badge for private car park disabled bays, and I'm fine with that, as long as people are using them based on need.
My mum isn't disabled, and doesn't have a badge, but sometimes has her leg bandaged up and it affects her walking. I'd see nothing wrong with her using a disabled space in that state, she's a little old lady with a duff leg.
In reality it's a moot point, as she can't drive like that either.
Plus you can't always tell whether someone is disabled or not just by looking at them.
So my view is they’re a "use it if you need it" thing, and if people are using them without an actual need, that's simply a personal moral failing on their part. They weren't raised properly.
But I don't think you can police their use very easily without risking affecting those with a genuine need.
My mum isn't disabled, and doesn't have a badge, but sometimes has her leg bandaged up and it affects her walking. I'd see nothing wrong with her using a disabled space in that state, she's a little old lady with a duff leg.
In reality it's a moot point, as she can't drive like that either.
Plus you can't always tell whether someone is disabled or not just by looking at them.
So my view is they’re a "use it if you need it" thing, and if people are using them without an actual need, that's simply a personal moral failing on their part. They weren't raised properly.
But I don't think you can police their use very easily without risking affecting those with a genuine need.
As PH'ers we all park our pride and joys at the far end of the car park... 
Supermarkets are missing a trick - provide an area for the disabled, but provide:
- 2 quick visit bays for cash point users
- A special area chargeable area for those wanting to park really close. You could have special coloured paint on the bays to make people feel important and #premium #luxury signs. Maybe even flashing lights when they arrive and speakers that proclaim the announcement of someone really VIP.
Supermarkets are missing a trick - provide an area for the disabled, but provide:
- 2 quick visit bays for cash point users
- A special area chargeable area for those wanting to park really close. You could have special coloured paint on the bays to make people feel important and #premium #luxury signs. Maybe even flashing lights when they arrive and speakers that proclaim the announcement of someone really VIP.
kurokawa said:
not just disable, parent and children parking bay, EV/PHEV charging bay, those bay reserve for cash transport van (no idea what it call). People just dont give a fxxk. Many of my friend don't care how they park as long as they fit into the whiteline. Common sense and courtesy diminish as soon as they jump into a car
Corners at road junctions, bus stops, loading bays, across two normal parking bays.(I once swept majestically into a disabled parking bay, accompanied by some disgusted looks. So I demonstrably and pointedly took my mother’s wheelchair out the boot, and round to her side where she - shrunken and probably invisible to passers by - was setting the clock on her disabled badge)
I believe 95% of their usage is for the morbidly obese to park their free mobility car in, spark a fag up and smoke themselves to imminent death whilst another hippocrocopig waddles around the supermarket
The 5% of actual disabled people then struggle to find empty, near bays to properly use.
Arguably looking at the users the bays should be at the furthest point of the car park to encourage exercise. The supermarkets could people adjacent bays by the store entrance for actual disabled persons.
Not those who have ruined themselves by decades of personal abuse.
Some sort of narrow gate way on the supermarket entrance might also help to deter the wobbly herds.
The 5% of actual disabled people then struggle to find empty, near bays to properly use.
Arguably looking at the users the bays should be at the furthest point of the car park to encourage exercise. The supermarkets could people adjacent bays by the store entrance for actual disabled persons.
Not those who have ruined themselves by decades of personal abuse.
Some sort of narrow gate way on the supermarket entrance might also help to deter the wobbly herds.
I find parent and child bays often abused. Our nearest big supermarket has around 10 bays, and sometimes you see people waiting in them with their kid (arguably they might just be getting ready to go in after a feed etc, but usually not), or people coming out with children who are big/old enough to need no child seat. Sometimes I can find an end space instead, but that's not always the case and you end up waiting only to find that the people taking the bays aren't getting prams or toddlers in and out.
The thing that really irks me though... So many people who use that supermarket think that parent and child bays mean you can abandon your trolley wherever you like. Sure, a parent on their own doesn't want to leave little Spudulika by herself but you see it when both parents are there.
I see disabled bays abused too... I know that not every disability is visible but being a selfish twunt isn't yet a protected characteristic.
The thing that really irks me though... So many people who use that supermarket think that parent and child bays mean you can abandon your trolley wherever you like. Sure, a parent on their own doesn't want to leave little Spudulika by herself but you see it when both parents are there.
I see disabled bays abused too... I know that not every disability is visible but being a selfish twunt isn't yet a protected characteristic.
donkmeister said:
I find parent and child bays often abused. Our nearest big supermarket has around 10 bays, and sometimes you see people waiting in them with their kid (arguably they might just be getting ready to go in after a feed etc, but usually not), or people coming out with children who are big/old enough to need no child seat. Sometimes I can find an end space instead, but that's not always the case and you end up waiting only to find that the people taking the bays aren't getting prams or toddlers in and out.
The thing that really irks me though... So many people who use that supermarket think that parent and child bays mean you can abandon your trolley wherever you like. Sure, a parent on their own doesn't want to leave little Spudulika by herself but you see it when both parents are there.
I see disabled bays abused too... I know that not every disability is visible but being a selfish twunt isn't yet a protected characteristic.
You always get some feral families where Waynetta gets out of her Zafira and dismisses any disapproving looks as her dishevelled 19 year old daughter Chlamydia makes them a parent and child unit. That flash of inspiration created by pooling their two brain cells. The thing that really irks me though... So many people who use that supermarket think that parent and child bays mean you can abandon your trolley wherever you like. Sure, a parent on their own doesn't want to leave little Spudulika by herself but you see it when both parents are there.
I see disabled bays abused too... I know that not every disability is visible but being a selfish twunt isn't yet a protected characteristic.
austinsmirk said:
I believe 95% of their usage is for the morbidly obese to park their free mobility car in, spark a fag up and smoke themselves to imminent death whilst another hippocrocopig waddles around the supermarket
The 5% of actual disabled people then struggle to find empty, near bays to properly use.
Arguably looking at the users the bays should be at the furthest point of the car park to encourage exercise. The supermarkets could people adjacent bays by the store entrance for actual disabled persons.
Not those who have ruined themselves by decades of personal abuse.
Some sort of narrow gate way on the supermarket entrance might also help to deter the wobbly herds.
All brilliant ! :-) (and 1st time I've heard "hippocrocopig")The 5% of actual disabled people then struggle to find empty, near bays to properly use.
Arguably looking at the users the bays should be at the furthest point of the car park to encourage exercise. The supermarkets could people adjacent bays by the store entrance for actual disabled persons.
Not those who have ruined themselves by decades of personal abuse.
Some sort of narrow gate way on the supermarket entrance might also help to deter the wobbly herds.
Griffith4ever said:
austinsmirk said:
I believe 95% of their usage is for the morbidly obese to park their free mobility car in, spark a fag up and smoke themselves to imminent death whilst another hippocrocopig waddles around the supermarket
The 5% of actual disabled people then struggle to find empty, near bays to properly use.
Arguably looking at the users the bays should be at the furthest point of the car park to encourage exercise. The supermarkets could people adjacent bays by the store entrance for actual disabled persons.
Not those who have ruined themselves by decades of personal abuse.
Some sort of narrow gate way on the supermarket entrance might also help to deter the wobbly herds.
All brilliant ! :-) (and 1st time I've heard "hippocrocopig")The 5% of actual disabled people then struggle to find empty, near bays to properly use.
Arguably looking at the users the bays should be at the furthest point of the car park to encourage exercise. The supermarkets could people adjacent bays by the store entrance for actual disabled persons.
Not those who have ruined themselves by decades of personal abuse.
Some sort of narrow gate way on the supermarket entrance might also help to deter the wobbly herds.
I guarantee the disabled bays would suddenly become a lot more available.
MikeGTi said:
deggles said:
Or, and here's a thought, just make all the parking spaces big enough for people to actually open their doors.
That would be an idea.My local Sainsbury's has double lines for each space, in an attempt to help people get in the space properly. Still doesn't work.
Some people still abuse the disabled parking spaces.
Often there are plenty of spare disabled bays so in the wider scheme of things it doesn’t matter, but sometimes they are all taken. Not being able to have the extra space afforded to a disabled bay makes it really difficult when someone in the car has a medical condition and a blue badge.
I have also noticed that those who seem to abuse the use of the disabled bays often take the one nearest the supermarket, not even the one at end of the disabled bays furthest from the supermarket. They are therefore presumably not doing it to protect their car but just because they are a lazy
. To those calling people with blue badges lazy I think you ought to direct your abuse to those who don’t have a blue badge but choose to park in the disabled bays.
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