Advice - first car new driver reg & insurance pls
Advice - first car new driver reg & insurance pls
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Ken Figenus

Original Poster:

6,011 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Many of you will have been here - want to give my (sadly) inherited Mum's car to my daughter and wife to use 50/50. Daughter hoping to pass test in Sept ater many lessons; she will be 19.

What's the best way to set it up for registered keeper and insurance? Feels like it will be lower cost to do it in wife's name and then daughter can take over when insurance rates drop to three digits for her alone?

Car is a 1.4 Golf worth about £8k.

Thanks for any pointers.

sxmwht

2,217 posts

90 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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If it's actually used 50/50 then no problem having your daughter as a named driver. Be careful if your daughter starts using it a lot more than your wife, though, as insurers will have seen that all before in the event of a claim and may (read: will more than likely) use it against you.

Sorry for your loss.

alscar

10,028 posts

244 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Obviously you want to avoid “ fronting “ and until your daughter passes her test obviously she won’t be in the car alone.
It would definitely be cheaper to insure now in your wife’s name with then your daughter as named but if it were me I’d insure it in your daughters name with you and /or your wife as named drivers and that way she can start to build up her own ncb.
Obviously once she passes her test price will escalate.
I would also put car in her name as RK but that’s me so not sure strictly necessary.

ingenieur

4,653 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Ken Figenus said:
want to give my (sadly) inherited Mum's car to my daughter and wife to use 50/50.
Ken Figenus said:
Car is a 1.4 Golf worth about £8k.
The same car a year later:




She'll get a price-break at 21 and then another at 25 so best bet is to make it the wife's car until your daughter takes it after 21. You're never going to get it absolutely right with the split usage working out how to proportion it.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,211 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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sxmwht said:
If it's actually used 50/50 then no problem having your daughter as a named driver.
But as it's 50/50, they will rate it on the daughter's age, as if she were the policyholder. There's no way they'll price it on someone in their 40s when a 19 y/o uses it just as much.

sxmwht

2,217 posts

90 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
But as it's 50/50, they will rate it on the daughter's age, as if she were the policyholder. There's no way they'll price it on someone in their 40s when a 19 y/o uses it just as much.
Well yeah, it'll be more expensive, but there won't be a problem, such as invalidation of insurance as the result of a claim.

GranpaB

20,094 posts

67 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Both oiur kids had their own policy on their own cars from the start, with me as a named driver.

They now enjoy several years NCB.

You have saved money by not having to purchase a car, so put that towards her own insurance instead.

Dogwatch

6,384 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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ingenieur said:
Ken Figenus said:
want to give my (sadly) inherited Mum's car to my daughter and wife to use 50/50.
Ken Figenus said:
Car is a 1.4 Golf worth about £8k.
The same car a year later:




Maybe not quite that bad but some truth there. Certainly expect some minor bumps and scrapes.

Ham_and_Jam

3,727 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Our experience of insuring a car for a young / learner driver didn’t seem that bad, and would encourage you to get your daughter on her own policy ASAP.

Our daughter insured her own (new) car whilst learning at age 18-
Learner policy - £340 Age 18
First year when passed £940 Age 18
Second Year (1 NCB) £465
Third Year (2 NCB) £320

So besides the first year after passing her test, all subsequent years have been very good.

I think this first year is always going to be a hit whenever you encounter it, so might aswell get it over with and get on the treadmill soon rather than later.

ingenieur

4,653 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Dogwatch said:
ingenieur said:
Ken Figenus said:
want to give my (sadly) inherited Mum's car to my daughter and wife to use 50/50.
Ken Figenus said:
Car is a 1.4 Golf worth about £8k.
The same car a year later:




Maybe not quite that bad but some truth there. Certainly expect some minor bumps and scrapes.
"Death by a thousand cuts" is my favourite phrase for this situation. Yes... the car isn't a write-off in one big accident.... but with 50 different dents and scratches it is the same overall outcome.

ingenieur

4,653 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Our experience of insuring a car for a young / learner driver didn’t seem that bad, and would encourage you to get your daughter on her own policy ASAP.

Our daughter insured her own (new) car whilst learning at age 18-
Learner policy - £340 Age 18
First year when passed £940 Age 18
Second Year (1 NCB) £465
Third Year (2 NCB) £320

So besides the first year after passing her test, all subsequent years have been very good.

I think this first year is always going to be a hit whenever you encounter it, so might aswell get it over with and get on the treadmill soon rather than later.
Would be nice to know what model car it was and if you benefit from living somewhere where insurance is lower as those rates seem very good for the first few years of motoring.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,211 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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sxmwht said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
But as it's 50/50, they will rate it on the daughter's age, as if she were the policyholder. There's no way they'll price it on someone in their 40s when a 19 y/o uses it just as much.
Well yeah, it'll be more expensive, but there won't be a problem, such as invalidation of insurance as the result of a claim.
Even if the daughter was the main user, there would be no issue with having mum as the policyholder and daughter as the additional driver, so long as insurers are aware. The main driver doesn't have to be the policyholder.

Ken Figenus

Original Poster:

6,011 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Thanks guys.

£4k shared with Mum. Only 1 would quote via Meercats!

£1600 on her own with a black box with the bargain basement never heard of insurer. New world for me!

Much appreciated help... Thx.


Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,195 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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you need to use one of those learn to drive insurance companies.

I did this for my daughter, I owned the car, ford ka, learner only insurance was £150. then when she passed she was primary driver on the car with me as secondary. First year £900, second year £600.

alscar

10,028 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Ken , I assume you tried Admiral - they were certainly decent enough for each of my 3 children and no black box requirement - was a few years ago mind.

Ken Figenus

Original Poster:

6,011 posts

148 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Cheers Al' & Mr Slow & High! We do have an Admiral multicar (£600 for the Taycan & £210 for her M235i lick) so will call them direct for a quote - hadn't thought of that...