RE: Road-legal Ferrari 488 Challenge for sale
RE: Road-legal Ferrari 488 Challenge for sale
Monday 22nd August 2022

Road-legal Ferrari 488 Challenge for sale

Plenty of cars claim to be racers for the road; not many actually are, though...


So, another Monterey Car Week done, another collection of mega-money track cars shown off to the richest car nuts out there. It’s a fascinating phenomenon, the circuit-ready hypercar, lacking both competition and road eligibility, yet the appetite for them - typified by the sold-out McLaren Solus GT - continues largely unabated. And with the genre has come an even more intriguing sub-genre: the road conversion of a car designed with pit lane TLC in mind. 

There have been McLaren GTRs made legal for the public highway, as well as Aston Vulcan. McLaren specialists Lanzante are getting a Zonda R fit for an MOT, too. In a hypercar world that prices uniqueness above all else, it’s perhaps little surprise to see owners go to such extraordinary lengths. Plus, well, it’s pretty cool, and that’s as good a reason as any to do it - imagine seeing a Vulcan on the A69.  

Now there’s another one to add to the list, as this is the first-ever, road-converted Ferrari 488 Challenge. Plainly, this is a little different to the other examples, given this was a bonafide racer and the Ferrari Challenge runs across the globe, but the promise of those cars already mentioned - of a completely mad on-road experience - is absolutely here with the Ferrari as well.  

Believe it or not, a few hardy souls have made Ferrari Challenge cars fit for the street before - there’s a 355 for sale here - although that was when the cars were more closely related to the road equivalent and not quite so outrageously capable. That 355 has a delicate, open-gated manual gearbox, analogue dials and a sweet little Sabelt wheel.

Compare that with this 488, a tangibly more serious (some might say silly) prospect as a road car with that unfathomable dashboard. In Evo form, the 488 is still being campaigned in Ferrari Challenge series from Sonoma to Suzuka, with the same 670hp as this car. Presumably, a 296- or F8-based replacement is due soon, but for now this is very closely related to Ferrari’s current Corse Clienti Challenge race car. And you can drive it to your Mum’s house.  

Sadly, the advert for this 488 doesn’t feature much info on what’s actually been done to make it roadworthy, stating only that the work has been undertaken ‘by a professional race team’. But it has a V5 and an MOT, registered on August 1st having first been sold through a UK Ferrari main dealer in 2018. Apparently it’s only been used twice in four years (covering just 300 miles) which does seem a crying shame given the potential.  

Now on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s, with a handbrake nestled between bucket seat and rollcage and some DRLs up front, the Challenge is ready for almost any adventure. As the advert suggests, it that can be used - if you’re very committed - for ‘a quick trip down to the shops’ or - perhaps more likely - ‘joining friends on a car rally or maybe even turning up to your local race track and destroying the rest of the grid’. A Pista is already pretty epic as far as road-going Ferraris for circuit go, and this Challenge promises another level of intensity again. Which may not be ideal on the M1, but what a track weapon it should be. And as the very first of its kind, there’s no danger of seeing another. As far as we know. 

The 488 is currently listed at POA; interestingly, a regular old track-only Challenge, without handbrake or hazard lights, is also on PH at £167,830, and most Pistas are about twice that. Given the work that’s presumably gone in, we’d expect it to be nearer the Pista price, or perhaps more given the unique status. Whatever it costs, the next owner is surely in for an unforgettable experience. And we’ve not even mentioned the best bit - the Gulf livery is just a wrap, and can come off. Phew. 


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mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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I just wonder about who would buy this. I can’t really think that the experience of driving it is pleasurable as compared to buying a proper road orientated Ferrari.

To me it’s like wanting to dress up as a racing driver to walk around when you are not at the track and racing. Lots of discomfort, not very practical and probably really annoying for most occasions. The desire to have one seems superficial to me

Schermerhorn

4,353 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Urgh

Why would you want to drive that thing on the road?

So people think you're an even bigger dick?

Jon_S_Rally

4,508 posts

119 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Nice to see that you both got out of bed on the right side this morning.

I can 100% see the appeal. It's a racing car that you can drive on the road. Yes it's going to be noisy, probably too stiff, and not very comfortable. But it's a racing car. That you can drive on the road.

You need to get in touch with your inner 8-year old.

Howard1650

345 posts

222 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Lovely toy to drive to a track day or perhaps a hill climb. Yet I’m sure there’s something for half the price that would be twice as good.

However, it is a terrible road car and no longer a race car. So not one for the collectors.

It’s a no from me. I can’t see the appeal here.

MDL111

8,922 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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I always liked the idea of a road legal Challenge car to not have to trailer to tracks that are not too far away. The issue is the turning circle is really really bad, so if you have to go through a village or a city you are in a world of pain. My 430 sat so low that you couldn’t even get over small undulations without bottoming out, but I guess they raised this one (and mine sat lower than stock).
Still tempting though - would rather have this than a new GT3RS or a Pista. Without the warp though to make it a little less conspicuous

whp1983

1,401 posts

170 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Looks like they’ve removed splitter and raised front end (or installed hydraulic front end)

Waste of time….. be horrid on the road.

Leave it in race spec and go racing or track day if you just want experience. Then have it packed up and drive home in a road Ferrari.

MDL111

8,922 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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whp1983 said:
Looks like they’ve removed splitter and raised front end (or installed hydraulic front end)

Waste of time….. be horrid on the road.

Leave it in race spec and go racing or track day if you just want experience. Then have it packed up and drive home in a road Ferrari.
The “have it packed up and go home in road car” approach is rather expensive. More realistic is pack it up yourself and trailer it home at 80-100 kph, which really isn’t that much fun and then you need space to store your huge trailer and tow car somewhere

Andy83n

612 posts

93 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Howard1650 said:
Lovely toy to drive to a track day or perhaps a hill climb. Yet I’m sure there’s something for half the price that would be twice as good.

However, it is a terrible road car and no longer a race car. So not one for the collectors.

It’s a no from me. I can’t see the appeal here.
How do you know it's a terrible road car?

stuthemong

2,534 posts

248 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Nice to see that you both got out of bed on the right side this morning.

I can 100% see the appeal. It's a racing car that you can drive on the road. Yes it's going to be noisy, probably too stiff, and not very comfortable. But it's a racing car. That you can drive on the road.

You need to get in touch with your inner 8-year old.
I’m with Jon.

Vroooooom vroooooom biggrin

ecsrobin

18,679 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Wasn’t there someone who had a challenge car in the UK (possibly older model) that just stuck their non challenge ferrari plates on so if pulled looked like the correct car?

tomkingshott

58 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Nice to see that you both got out of bed on the right side this morning.

I can 100% see the appeal. It's a racing car that you can drive on the road. Yes it's going to be noisy, probably too stiff, and not very comfortable. But it's a racing car. That you can drive on the road.

You need to get in touch with your inner 8-year old.
Exactly this! Yeah it would probably be horrendous to do a 6 hour journey in, but also its a road legal ferrari race car. Just think about how cool that sentence actually is. Not just a ferrari a road legal racing ferrari

If I won the lotto this is the sort of stupid thing I would buy....but maybe just get rid of that gulf livery as it has been done to death now

Turbobanana

8,500 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Nice to see that you both got out of bed on the right side this morning.

I can 100% see the appeal. It's a racing car that you can drive on the road. Yes it's going to be noisy, probably too stiff, and not very comfortable. But it's a racing car. That you can drive on the road.

You need to get in touch with your inner 8-year old.
My inner 8-year-old is alive and kicking, and screaming "Hell yeah!" at this.

My more sensible 53-year-old self would want to lose the pseudo-Gulf livery, which shouldn't ever be on a Ferrari.

Spiros115

440 posts

81 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Isn’t the point of these conversions basically that you can just drive it to and from track rather than take it on a B road blast? I totally get the appeal of that, if you live round the corner from silverstone and rather than faff about with trailers or storage, hop in, ignition on drive round the corner, happy days! Is there a better track toy than an actual race car?!

Om

2,201 posts

109 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Fantastic car etc. etc. (apart from the childish wrap).

But seriously, a Ferrari race car that wasn't raced, then converted to be road legal at considerable expense, then not driven on the road... Pointless x2.

Presumably it will be bought by someone who will convert it back to a race car and keep it in a garage!

MDL111

8,922 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Andy83n said:
Howard1650 said:
Lovely toy to drive to a track day or perhaps a hill climb. Yet I’m sure there’s something for half the price that would be twice as good.

However, it is a terrible road car and no longer a race car. So not one for the collectors.

It’s a no from me. I can’t see the appeal here.
How do you know it's a terrible road car?
I don't know about this particular car, but my 430 would have been terrible - turning circle, hard suspension with very little travel, noise without a helmet, the fact that the rollcage might kill you in a crash if no helmet, engine management/clutch that do not like slow speed and low revs
I wonder if they added a key and doorlocks, because otherwise you can't park this anywhere - anybody could get in and drive away

Sandpit Steve

15,413 posts

105 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Brilliant. It’s going to be terrible as a road car, and compromised as a racecar with road-legal tyres, but can’t help raise a smile that someone managed to get numberplates on a proper Challenge racecar. Life is good this Monday morning. biggrin

ecs0set

2,526 posts

315 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Turbobanana said:
My more sensible 53-year-old self would want to lose the pseudo-Gulf livery, which shouldn't ever be on a Ferrari.
This.

MDL111

8,922 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
Brilliant. It’s going to be terrible as a road car, and compromised as a racecar with road-legal tyres, but can’t help raise a smile that someone managed to get numberplates on a proper Challenge racecar. Life is good this Monday morning. biggrin
Agreed - just because it doesn’t make it better, doesn’t necessarily mean one shouldn’t do it.
Good that I don’t have money, otherwise I’d be very tempted to buy it and leave it on UK plates (no way I could get it through TÜV in Germany).
Discussed a 458 road conversion with people a few years ago, but in the end didn’t go ahead due to the TÜV uncertainty

Glosphil

4,893 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Is that rear wing road legal? Those end plates don't like pedestrian friendly.

Slippydiff

16,473 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Nice to see that you both got out of bed on the right side this morning.

I can 100% see the appeal. It's a racing car that you can drive on the road. Yes it's going to be noisy, probably too stiff, and not very comfortable. But it's a racing car. That you can drive on the road.

You need to get in touch with your inner 8-year old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWG6ZJ1vT8c&t=1s

Looks fun doesn't it ?
As you'll know better than most, the reality of driving a racecar on the road is somewhat different, and rest assured the novelty rapidly wears off, it's why Ferrari, Porsche et al, all build pseudo-race cars (Porsche GT3/GT2 RS, Ferrari Challenge Stradale (clue's in the name) Scuderia, Speciale, Pista, Lamborghini Supperleggera etc etc for the road, because genuine race/rally cars generally make for horribly compromised road cars.

I guess if your ego really needs massaging by the 0.01% of the general public (who don't appreciate what a complete tool you're being/you look by "driving a racecar, on the road") there's some kind of kudos to be gained from doing so :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5YhYXtFfaM

but just remember, to the other 99.99 of the population you'll look like nothing more than a brain-dead, moronic, inconsiderate boy-racer who really needs to grow up.

And FWiW, I seriously considered making a 458 Challenge car street legal about 6-7 years ago when they were relatively "cheap" ... fortunately I saw sense wink