RE: Marcos Mantaray | Spotted
RE: Marcos Mantaray | Spotted
Monday 22nd August 2022

Marcos Mantaray | Spotted

Ever read a Mantaray review in a magazine? It was almost certainly this very car...


British sports car makers are a bit like rock stars from a bygone era. Some of them stick around for decades releasing hit after hit (Lotus), while others release a few belters before vanishing off the face of the Earth only to appear with another cracker a decade later. A bit like Noble. And, of course, there are the stars who constantly fall out with other band members and only periodically make up for the odd reunion tour. This is Marcos.

Take a look back through the Marcos archives and it’s clear it discovered a winning formula early on. The distinct Kamm tail silhouette made its road car debut with the GT in the 1960s and was carried right through to the company’s closure in late 2007. Well, one of its closures. That being said, while the early cars were arguably more elegant in design, later models were proper British bruisers. Just look at the second iteration of the Marcos Mantis - with probably the most flared wheel arches of all time - and the mighty LM600 racer.

But the car we have here, the Mantaray, is the ultimate mix of Marcos’ earlier elegance and its slightly mad senior years. The Mantaray took the clean-yet-muscular lines of the Mantara GTS and introduced the first major change to the rear of the car since the original GT. The tail sat a little higher and wider, ditching the tapered-in design of the cars that came before yet retaining the distinctive Kamm tail look.

Crucially, though, it was available with a host of engines. These included a 2.0-litre naturally aspirated Rover Tomcat motor, plus a turbocharged variant, along with Rover V8s in 4.0 and 4.6-litre capacities - which is extraordinary, really, given that the Mantaray was built in extremely limited numbers. Naturally V8s accounted for the majority of sales, with 18 cars, while eight others are believed to have been built with half-pint four pots. Only a British sports car would offer four engine options for a 26-strong production run.

Of course, it had intended to build more, until, you guessed it, the company went bankrupt and production ground to a halt. That was until it found a wealthy Canadian investor, who managed to kickstart production of the V6-engined Marcasite and the wonderfully different TSO GT2, both of which were produced in extremely limited numbers throughout the 2000s before the business went under in 2007. Again. Only, it bounced back once more in 2010 with the mid-engine Spirit 220, moving Marcos into a new era of cars no longer clinging on to the legacy of the original GT. Yet, here we are in 2022 and the Marcos name has seemingly been resigned to the history books. For now, at least.

This Mantaray may just be the perfect example of Marcos in its heyday. It’s one of seven cars manufactured with the 4.6-litre V8, with power coming in at 324hp (numbers vary online, so feel free to correct us in the comments). Not bad for a car weighing a smidge over a tonne, resulting in what we’d expect to be a very slippery rear axle. What makes this model even more special, however, is that it’s the original UK press car, with clippings from various car magazines included in the sale. Sweet.

So, how does £29,995 sound for an ultra-rare slice of British sports history? It’s covered 36,000 miles and, to quote the ad, a “stack of paperwork” documenting all the paperwork that’s been done. There’s even a walkaround video so you can get a closer look for yourself. It may not have the futuristic appeal of a TVR Tuscan, or the yesteryear charm of a Morgan, but it’s certainly got all the ingredients that go into making a British icon. 


SPECIFICATION | Marcos Mantaray

Engine: 4,554cc V8
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 324@4,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 281@3,100rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1998
Recorded mileage: 36,000
Price new: £39,000
Yours for: £29,995

See the original advert here

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metakim

Original Poster:

6 posts

134 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Very cool indeed. Compared to the amount of money you could spend on some other future classics (I am looking at you 90s Japanese cars) at the moment it seems an entirely reasonable price.

996TT02

3,342 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Good value, because it's absolutely hideous. The first Marcos looked OK in the 60's then they kept the same oddball shape and "modernized" bits

pquinn

7,167 posts

77 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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I sort of regret not buying the LM600 homologation car back when it was floating around cheap. Would have been an expensive pain doing anything with it but that wouldn't be the point.


As for this car I prefer an original shape GT not this updated effort.

Edited by pquinn on Monday 22 August 13:36

rampageturke

2,625 posts

193 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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pquinn said:
I sort of regret not buying the LM600 homologation car back when it was floating around cheap. Would have been an expensive pain doing anything with it but that wouldn't be the point.
Was that "B1G LM"? How cheap was it when you saw it? Apparently not been MOT'd since 2013 frown

Iamnotkloot

1,917 posts

178 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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It's not hideous - not this one, anyway. I quite like it's more understated look (compared to some of the other Marcos creations).

Example:

WhyOne

674 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Goodness....those panel gaps yikes

BigTZ4M

237 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Go direct to their website and it's had £5K taken off the price mentioned here on PH

wpa1975

14,796 posts

145 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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I think a TVR would be a better bet.

Harrypop

2,611 posts

153 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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rampageturke said:
pquinn said:
I sort of regret not buying the LM600 homologation car back when it was floating around cheap. Would have been an expensive pain doing anything with it but that wouldn't be the point.
Was that "B1G LM"? How cheap was it when you saw it? Apparently not been MOT'd since 2013 frown
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Just been trying to find it myself, wanted to see what an LM600 looked like.

DKL

4,990 posts

253 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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I very nearly bought a Mantara direct from the nissen hut in Westbury back in about 99. Perfectly reasonable alternative to a TVR then. IIRC the Mantaray was a more refined version shape wise. The side on shot looks foreshortened, I'm sure its a more elongated car than it seems.
Needs to be equated to a Chimera price wise and that seems quite expensive. £5k off mentioned is better but it may well need to be closer to £20 to sell.

cognac1979

107 posts

132 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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With such a small production run, what challenges do owners have when it comes to replacement parts? Is there a bit of an aftermarket scene I wonder?

MrGeoff

780 posts

203 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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cognac1979 said:
With such a small production run, what challenges do owners have when it comes to replacement parts? Is there a bit of an aftermarket scene I wonder?
Well, the rear lights are from a Mk1 Mondeo so I wonder what else is borrowed?

sidesauce

2,967 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Many years ago I used to work in a recording studio next door to Maxi Jazz (of Faithless fame) who owned one of these in blue.

Even back then, it was a very firm 'no' from me; as someone pointed out, a TVR of this era would be a much better bet.

autofocus

3,181 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Hi there

Great to see this car come to market, although it was for sale a few weeks ago on Collecting Cars but did not sell.

I had my eye on it as I know Marcos reasonably well. I worked as sales manager at car dealership in Nottingham in 1999. We wanted to add a sportscar franchise to our business and realising Lotus was out of our reach we opted for Marcos. I was 25 at the time and car mad so being involved in the meetings, negotiatons and factory visits was a real honour. I fondly remember Don Powell from Marcos arriving at our dealerhsip in a Rolls Royce Green Mantis, throwing me the keys and telling me to go and have fun.

The Silver car in the advert is the car used in most of the press releases and factory brochues, so of which I still have and are pictured below. We even had the car thats for sale at our dealership for a few days as we had a customer that was really keen to test drive a 4.6 V8 engined Mantaray (there were three engine options 2.0 T, or 3.9 V8). It drove really well and I always though the Marcos product was superb. I will own one some day soon.

Sorry PH but you said to correct you in the comments in respect of engine power. Well here goes (as you can see by the sales brochure below) the 4.6 V8 was only putting out 250bhp.







You can see the Silver car for sale on the factory stocklist from 1999 (top one on the second page)





Regards

Tim

Edited by autofocus on Monday 22 August 15:59

autofocus

3,181 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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cognac1979 said:
With such a small production run, what challenges do owners have when it comes to replacement parts? Is there a bit of an aftermarket scene I wonder?
Hi,

Engine wise the V8's were Ford units, the 2.0 Turbo was the Rover engine from the 220 Tomcat Coupe.

Regards

Tim

Chunkychucky

6,094 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Iamnotkloot said:
It's not hideous - not this one, anyway. I quite like it's more understated look (compared to some of the other Marcos creations).

Example:
I used to like seeing Cor Euyser (sp?) racing a model which looked similar to that above - was a nice contrast to most of the other stuff competing at the time cool

autofocus

3,181 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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rampageturke said:
pquinn said:
I sort of regret not buying the LM600 homologation car back when it was floating around cheap. Would have been an expensive pain doing anything with it but that wouldn't be the point.
Was that "B1G LM"? How cheap was it when you saw it? Apparently not been MOT'd since 2013 frown
Hi there,

B1G LM was certainly a car with plenty of road presence



Regards

Tim

andy_s

19,857 posts

290 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Cheers Tim!

thewarlock

3,285 posts

76 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Peak power at 4750rpm doesn't sound like the most exciting.

I hadn't actually realised these didn't also use the Ford modular 4.6 that they put in the Mantis.

autofocus

3,181 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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Chunkychucky said:
Iamnotkloot said:
It's not hideous - not this one, anyway. I quite like it's more understated look (compared to some of the other Marcos creations).

Example:
I used to like seeing Cor Euyser (sp?) racing a model which looked similar to that above - was a nice contrast to most of the other stuff competing at the time cool
Hi,

That would be this one raced by Euser at Rockingham in May 2009



Regards

Tim