RE: Koenigsegg reports 'unprecedented' CC850 demand
RE: Koenigsegg reports 'unprecedented' CC850 demand
Thursday 25th August 2022

Koenigsegg reports 'unprecedented' CC850 demand

Originally just 50 cars were to be made; now there will be 20 more  


What with all the lightweight Porsches, V12 Aston Martins and a Gran Turismo McLaren made real, it would have been easy to miss the Koenigsegg CC850 announced during Monterey Car Week. Prospective buyers certainly didn’t, though; what was meant to be a 50-car production run (because Christian von Koenigsegg is 50 years old this year) is now being increased to 70. The original run ‘meant that not even the most loyal of Koenigsegg owners could all get their desired share of CC850s, while hopeful new owners would also not be able to obtain one.’ And that’d be no good. Handily the additional 20 can represent the 20 years of Koenigsegg supercar production.  

Even in the context of an incredible few days for new exotica, the CC850 seems quite the car. Five minutes with the spec and it’s easy to see why dozens signed themselves up for the latest Koenigsegg. Like the One:1 of 2014, it has one horsepower for every kilo of weight; run the CC850 on E85 and the 5.0-litre twin-turbo V8 makes 1,385hp, matching the kerbweight to the kilo. Even on 93 octane it makes 1,185hp, so performance is never going to be in doubt. ‘The visceral experience and accompanying aural signature are otherworldly and incomparable’, reckons Koenigsegg, even with a slightly more relaxed remit than cars like the Jesko. 

As is becoming tradition for the Swedish megacars, that’s really just the start of the CC850’s epic spec. It uses a carbon tub with pre-preg carbon/Kevlar panels, which contribute to that slender kerbweight; there are huge ceramic brakes at each corner, Triplex dampers, hydraulically adjustable ride height and giant forged wheels on Michelins wider than manhole covers. So far, so supercar.  

But there’s one crucial difference for the CC850 that separates it from the rest, and is likely the reason for the demand: the Koenigsegg has a manual gearbox. Well, sort of. The transmission is the nine-speed Light Speed Transmission (LST) first seen in the Jesko, a 20-millisecond mega dual-clutcher. But there’s also a clutch pedal and a six-speed gated manual with the Swedish flag on top like the old CC8S. What gives? 

Well, in what’s being described as a revolutionary world first, the Light Speed Transmission now has something called an Engage Shift System on top, which means it can operate as a six-speed manual as well. Right down to stalling if you don’t get the clutch right. The choice of running as an auto or manual is entirely the driver’s decision; don’t ask us how on earth a manual DCT works, but it seems that Koenigsegg may have the automotive holy grail on its hands, with auto ease-of-use and proper clutch-and-stick engagement. No wonder those millionaires couldn’t move fast enough.  

Combine all that with a look that perfectly evokes the old CC8S of 2002 - ‘familiar, yet all-new’, says Koenigsegg - and the CC850 looks one heck of a 50th birthday present. Plus a fine addition to any collection; plenty of mid-engined poster cars claim to be one of a kind, but this Engage Shift System really does promise something unique in the segment. Christian von Koenigsegg said of his latest megacar: “The CC8S put us on the map and made us successful – and celebrating 20 years of production, alongside my 50th birthday, felt like the right time to reveal the CC850 to appreciate our roots.” Now it’s time to make the thing - there are at least 70 people out there desperate to find out what 1,385hp and three pedals are actually like. 


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romac

Original Poster:

608 posts

176 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Another cracking 'egg!

How do they keep doing it?

GTRene

22,681 posts

254 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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oooh, whats not to want :-)

jmcc500

679 posts

248 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Presumably a manual DCT just adds a a driver controlled clutch between engine and DCT box. In 'Manual' mode the DCT would just select whichever gear the driver requests via the stick (doing the same job as syncromesh would in a conventional manual), whilst the driver is messing around with the extra pedal. More weight and complexity for no 'technical' gain, but great marketing!

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

213 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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It'll be interesting to see if any reviews emerge of this - I wonder how well the manualised automatic drives?

S600BSB

8,517 posts

136 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Those front brake calipers are HUGE!

foxhounduk

705 posts

210 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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This looks the business

SuperPav

1,355 posts

155 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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I love that they've finally found a use for all those little Apple iPhone pin things you use to pop out the SIM card holder, which end up amassing in the stationery drawer after several iPhone purchases. They look much better as Koenigsegg gauge/dial needles smile

FatboyKim

2,561 posts

60 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Fantastisk!

thegreenhell

24,244 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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jmcc500 said:
Presumably a manual DCT just adds a a driver controlled clutch between engine and DCT box. In 'Manual' mode the DCT would just select whichever gear the driver requests via the stick (doing the same job as syncromesh would in a conventional manual), whilst the driver is messing around with the extra pedal. More weight and complexity for no 'technical' gain, but great marketing!
The pedal is probably not connected to a real physical clutch. The shift and the real clutches will still be controlled entirely by electronics, just activated by a signal from the lever instead of paddles. The clutch pedal will just send another signal to the gearbox ecu which will either accept or decline the shift depending on the timing of the signals it receives from pedal and gear lever. Probably.

A DCT isn't really suited to true manual control because it effectively has to coordinate two clutches and two shifts doing different things at the same time. It's really two gearboxes in one, which is why they're so heavy compared to a manual.

swisstoni

24,153 posts

309 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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I was going to say that if I was one of the original 50 limited edition buyers I’d be miffed that they added another 20, just because.

But then I realised that I don’t give a st about anyone involved.

FatboyKim

2,561 posts

60 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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swisstoni said:
I was going to say that if I was one of the original 50 limited edition buyers I’d be miffed that they added another 20, just because.

But then I realised that I don’t give a st about anyone involved.
You're unlikely to pull up next to another at a set of traffic lights,

ManyMotors

1,108 posts

128 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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The transmission will be interesting to operate though I doubt the CC850 will be given to some journalist for a review.

Despite cost, the CC850 is entertaining and now occupies territory in my mind that used to be "Pagani". Of course, I'll never own a Pagani or Koenigsegg. But it is good to know someone is trying to advance the hypercar into full electric territory. While Pagani has simply given up on that front, Koenigsegg declares "Forward!"

rewild

3,367 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Simply mentioning Pagani and Koenigsegg in the same sentence is a massive insult to Koenigsegg, IMO. They are truly a company of extraordinary engineering accomplishment and innovation, and to lump them in with a bought-in V12 covered in chintzy polished tat is painful to read.

(I exaggerate the patheticness of Pagani to emphasise my point, but they're surely not in the same league of achievement as Koenigsegg.)


ChrisCh86

1,133 posts

74 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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All of Koenigsegg's cars are beautiful pieces of engineering, and this is no exception.

Love it - I'd be a little miffed if I were one of the original 50 lucky owners, but then you're unlikely to ever see another.

Maccmike8

1,612 posts

84 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Wow cool

MMeng

10 posts

147 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Calling a car with dual-clutch transmission and a fake clutch/gearstick an engineering marvel is an insult to engineering.

The fact that a car with such gimmicks, let alone based one on a 20year old ext. design, is being celebrated on a site like pistonheads, is greatly alarming and indicative of the mess that car culture has morphed into during the current timeline.

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

71 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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I ran round in a Mercedes’ a class for a few months in circa 1997 that had no clutch but a manual gear change. You just lifted off the accelerator a bit to allow gear changes.
Bet they’ve just modified one of those gearboxes……….

nismo48

7,180 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Maccmike8 said:
Wow cool
Motoring Nirvana thumbup

Petrus1983

11,218 posts

192 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Love it. But for me there’s 2 interesting numbers - 50, Christian’s age, and 20 - the age of the company. He was 30 when he started yikes fair play!

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Beautiful and, is it just me, recognisably Swedish?