RE: Guess which used cars have gone down in value?
RE: Guess which used cars have gone down in value?
Thursday 25th August 2022

Guess which used cars have gone down in value?

Not every make and model is subject to an overheated used car market...


You don’t need us to tell you there’s a cost-of-living crisis. We’re reminded about it daily. Rampant inflation has spread its tentacles virtually everywhere, and the knock-on effect of ongoing supply issues has led to a well-publicised boom in used car values. You may have noticed. Anecdotal tales of excitable dealers calling customers to buy back three-year-old models are now legion. 

Nevertheless, the car market is both very large and wonderfully fickle. As ever, there is supply and there is demand, and while the relationship between the two tends to favour the seller at the moment, is it certainly not an all-encompassing scenario. For a multitude of reasons, depreciation continues to work its magic in the buyer’s favour, even in a used car market where prices are said to be up 12.9 per cent year-over-year. 

We know this because our brothers and sisters at CarGurus have been banging their heads against the data, and have emerged (victoriously) with a list of ten cars where the average listing price has melted like a dropped 99 on Brighton seafront. We won’t bore you with the whole list (because naturally it features some cars we wouldn’t recommend you sampling with a barge pole) but there are some notable takeaways for the PH-minded. 

Number one, the 2019 BMW 2 Series - which just happens to be at number one thanks to a whopping 18.4 per cent drop from an average list price of £27,532 in July 2021, to £22,458 last month. Now, we should hasten to add that includes not just the coupe and convertible (which are very good), but also the Gran and Active Tourer (which are not) so caution should obviously be exercised in drawing trim-specific conclusions. Nevertheless, with the new G42 generation inbound, it’s probably fair to say that the outgoing M240i looks like an increasingly decent investment. Here’s a lightly used 2019 car with at least £10k already scythed from its original list price. 

Next up, the 2019 Mk7 VW Golf. Again, there’s a lot of ground being covered there, but a 16.7 reduction in average price (from £23,272 to £19,393) suggests the Mk8’s introduction has taken its inevitable toll. CG calls the Mk7 one of the most complete family cars VW has ever built, and we’re inclined to agree. Certainly older, leggier versions of the GTI are heading for £10k territory - which feels like a steal - but even the three-year-old stuff seems persuasive for what is a famously sturdy secondhand buy: check out this 2019 manual GTI Performance for £22,850. 

Of course, introducing a successor to a popular model is always going to have an effect on prices, but CG’s list suggests there are other forces at play, too. At number 5, with values 15.1 per cent down on where they were last year, is the BMW G30 5 Series - a car which has not yet been replaced (the G60 is due next year). The fact that the average used price has gone from £36,163 to £30,717 suggests that the model is also battling a market-wide downturn in saloon sales. 

Which is brilliant news for canny used buyers, because the G30 is mostly superb. And the choice is endless: there are 854 of them on PH alone, and if you’re content with a 2.0-litre engine and a few miles on the clock, you can pick up an older model for less than £15k. For less than £30k, you can get All The Car You’ll Ever Need. Even the famously expensive M5 is approaching a vaguely competitive price after three years: this 2019 example with 31k on the clock is roughly half what you’d pay for a brand-new version. 

That isn’t to say that stylish SUVs are immune from depreciation. Encouragingly - if you’re concerned about keeping up with the Jones’s - the Jaguar F-Pace and Land Rover Discovery Sport are at 7 and 8 in CG’s rundown, with an average price reduction of 13.4 and 13.0 per cent, respectively. Both models have been updated in recent years - the F-Pace in 2021 to great effect - but if you’re unconcerned by the latest interior or engines, the earlier supercharged V6 models can be bought for less than £30k. The V8-powered SVR couldn’t be called a bargain - but £55k for a 2019 example with 12k on the clock is still £20k cheaper than the car’s original starting price. 


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aestivator

Original Poster:

265 posts

61 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Including the whole of the 2 series, diesels/MPVs and all, makes drawing any conclusions about the M240i (presumably the PHers' choice) impossible. I bought one basically identical to the advertised example, except a year older, a year ago - i.e. it is the equivalent car. The example you show is over £1k more than I paid for mine (as an AUC), with more miles too - so I don't think values have dropped as much as you think (certainly not 18%).

Likewise muddling all the Golf stats up means GTI/R prices are going to be impossible to discern. I had an R on the inevitable lease some time ago and it doesn't seem like prices of those have dropped at all since I got rid of it, despite the stock of cars getting older.

So yeah - lies, damn lies, and statistics

kmpowell

3,550 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Possibly the worst 'tenuously linking to the classifieds in an aim to drive traffic there' PH article to date?

There have been some stinkers over the past few months, but this is a new high/low...

supacool1

741 posts

210 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Fake News? tumbleweed

sxmwht

2,217 posts

90 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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kmpowell said:
Possibly the worst 'tenuously linking to the classifieds in an aim to drive traffic there' PH article to date?

There have been some stinkers over the past few months, but this is a new high/low...
Yeah, this is fking crap. I'd rather another restomod Porsche.

pb8g09

3,278 posts

100 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Strange article.

Cazoo are selling M240i's for some £4-6k less than the one in the article with decent specs. Given the M235i has yet to drop below £15k for a decent one despite being released in 2014, I certainly wouldn't be flashing it as a depreciating bargain.

Not really sure any of the links in the article are making me salivate and ripping my wallet out of my pocket.


WokkaWokka

807 posts

170 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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I honestly just can’t get my head around why people are so upset by PistonHeads doing a little article to plug the fact that they do advertise cars for sale.

So what? Auto trader have gone the other way, it’s just a business with a news section attached to it.

pb8g09

3,278 posts

100 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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WokkaWokka said:
I honestly just can’t get my head around why people are so upset by PistonHeads doing a little article to plug the fact that they do advertise cars for sale.

So what? Auto trader have gone the other way, it’s just a business with a news section attached to it.
Shed of the Week and Brave pill are also articles aimed to divert us to the cars for sale section, but at least they make for a good read.

If you read this article extra fast it could almost sound like one of those adverts you hear on the radio where you're having prices and discounts shouted at you.


Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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supacool1 said:
Fake News? tumbleweed
Let's just say that Car Gurus isn't exactly well regarded by the motor trade. Relying on their data is akin to walking into a showroom and quoting Parkers Guide...

SHIFTY

1,001 posts

267 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Whoever put the report together cannot even get the listing price dates correct on some of the examples they show as 2022 for both prices.

Global Nomad

105 posts

112 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Well if it's not the desirable models getting cheaper then the lower models and diesels must be loosing twice as much....feels like clumsy work in anyone's book...would be a fail if one of my students did anything this meaningless

James Junior

856 posts

188 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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WokkaWokka said:
I honestly just can’t get my head around why people are so upset by PistonHeads doing a little article to plug the fact that they do advertise cars for sale.

So what? Auto trader have gone the other way, it’s just a business with a news section attached to it.
Totally agree. Always makes me laugh the number of entitled comments whining about the quality of the journalism or criticising the content.

PH is a used car sales directory with a news feed attached to the front of it.

The content is literally free, You don't even need to set up a profile to read it.

If it's not up to your lofty standards, go read Evo or something.

Or...controversial I know... you could just be grateful that PH brings together a huge community of enthusiasts with daily content and bustling forums. That you can use. For free...

livinginasia

966 posts

141 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Something not quite right here, I bought a 2018 F Pace in 2020, the WBAC offer is still more than I paid for it from a main dealer.

My wife has a 2016 2 series convertible, bought privately also in 2020. Again, the WBAC offer today is more than she paid for it.

As two of our cars are on this list I nearly had a heart attack, but I am not sure it’s correct after 2 mins on WBAC today.

Not selling either of them - we love them both.

We are lucky to have a few other cars as well, all of which are holding their value well.

Welshman Adam

72 posts

243 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Literally waiting for Golf R prices to drop, specifically Mk 7.5 Estates. Looking to buy next spring/summer, so fingers crossed.

I'm regularly looking at the prices on the VW website and I think there could be some truth in this.

rewild

3,367 posts

170 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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More proof that PH "news" is just something you have to put up with if you enjoy the forums.

Garbage.

Wren-went

1,066 posts

69 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Currently prices are dropping like stones in the states across the board all types and prices from sheds to newish expensive cars , obviously it's a far bigger car market


sp222

203 posts

180 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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We used to have a 2 series Gran Tourer - fairly reasonable family car, but it did suffer from depreciation - you'd have put it down to the way it looked as at the time of release it was possibly the ugliest BMW available (maybe excluding the X6 and X4), and although it seems that BMW's recent releases have probably made it look not so bad, they haven't helped with depreciation.

Luckily we traded it at the right time and the V Class that replaced it is now seemingly worth a fair bit more than we paid for it..

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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I'd struggle to term a 340i as an 'investment' tbh

nismo48

7,206 posts

238 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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James Junior said:
WokkaWokka said:
I honestly just can’t get my head around why people are so upset by PistonHeads doing a little article to plug the fact that they do advertise cars for sale.

So what? Auto trader have gone the other way, it’s just a business with a news section attached to it.
Totally agree. Always makes me laugh the number of entitled comments whining about the quality of the journalism or criticising the content.

PH is a used car sales directory with a news feed attached to the front of it.

The content is literally free, You don't even need to set up a profile to read it.

If it's not up to your lofty standards, go read Evo or something.

Or...controversial I know... you could just be grateful that PH brings together a huge community of enthusiasts with daily content and bustling forums. That you can use. For free...
thumbup Exactly this..

aestivator

Original Poster:

265 posts

61 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Three cheers for low standards!

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

138 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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How is this an article?