RE: Dead straight, dead flat, dead cool
RE: Dead straight, dead flat, dead cool
Saturday 3rd September 2022

Dead straight, dead flat, dead cool

Once a 19th-century railway route, Catesby Tunnel is all set to revolutionise aerodynamic testing in the UK


For decades now, what the public sees of aerodynamic testing has become very familiar. There’s a static car in a chamber, fan gusting wind over it to indicate how the vehicle carves through the air. A good deal of faith has been placed in the procedure, though obviously in the real world a car doesn’t remain still the whole time. What’s needed to accurately measure everything studied in a wind tunnel - set to become even more important as far as EV range is concerned - is a real-world wind tunnel with lab-controlled conditions. Catesby Tunnel looks set to be that facility.

A few miles from Daventry, the tunned was first used by steam locomotives in July 1898. As was the thing for Victorian engineering, it was on an epic scale: 30 million bricks were used to build Catesby, which measures a perfectly straight 2.7km in length, with a cross-section 8.2m wide and 7.8m high. Closed to trains in 1966, the tunnel has just undergone a multi-million-pound transformation by Aero Research Partners, which includes laying a dead flat road surface, to make what’s described as a ‘state-of-the-art aerodynamic vehicle testing facility’. It's the first of its kind in the UK, and only the second in the world. 

Essentially, it aims to be the best of both worlds. Catesby Tunnel is the real world (as opposed to it being mimicked in a conventional wind tunnel) but allows for the atmosphere to be controlled in a way that’s never possible with weather and wind changes in the actual real world. And, well, if it’s good enough for Multimatic to book out a whole chunk of testing time then it must be good. And not just conveniently located near its Brackley UK base.

To prove the point, Multimatic has already been to Catesby Tunnel with Andy Priaulx and a Mazda RT24-P. Done 120mph in it, too. The important discovery, however, was that the aerodynamic data from the tunnel showed ‘a high level of correlation to that existing performance data’, the stuff taken from CFD development, full-size wind tunnel testing and actual races. Which is encouraging.

Over to the professionals for an expert view on the old Victorian tunnel. Larry Holt, founder of Multimatic no less, is in the video. He said: “Compared to conventional wind tunnels, this is better because it’s real… In a moving ground plane wind tunnel, the car is stationary and the wind is blown over it by a massive fan and flow conditioning set-up, and a belt is arranged to move under the car at a coordinated speed.  It’s a very sophisticated configuration but the car is still stationary and that constitutes the not totally real piece.  What Catesby facilitates is the measurement of the aerodynamic performance of a vehicle actually moving through the real world.”

“The problem with a car moving through the real world is that it is subjected to influences like gusting wind, rain and other changing environmental conditions that effect air density; all of the variables that come with testing in the real world. Catesby provides the real world without the weather. You have a moving car, a real road surface, a controlled environment and we can run 24 hours a day, whatever the season. It is a perfect 2.7kms of controlled atmosphere. That’s the kind of consistency you need when you are chasing incremental gains.” See, just like we said. Priaulx added that it was “odd to jump into a race car and drive flat out through a 2.7km tunnel” - rather him than us on that job.

Though Catesby Tunnel is open now, Multimatic has snapped up a lot of the available test time. Given its aforementioned proximity to Brackley and the plethora of motorsport operations close to Silverstone, it wouldn't be a surprise to hear that the new facility is fully booked before long. What a brilliant thing. 


 

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p221024

Original Poster:

11 posts

103 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Would allow car clubs to do the ultimate 'tunnel run' there I wonder? 🤔
An Novitec 812SF would be top of my wish list for this!

Augustus Windsock

3,807 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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“ A few miles from Daventry, the tunned was first used by steam locomotives in July 1898. ”

I’m sure I was tunned at my very old-fashioned grammar school in the 1970’s…🤪

LooneyTunes

9,486 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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article said:
The important discovery, however, was that the aerodynamic data from the tunnel showed ‘a high level of correlation to that existing performance data’, the stuff taken from CFD development, full-size wind tunnel testing and actual races.
It’s a long time since I did any fluid dynamics, but recall that flow around objects in pipes (or similar) is affected by the hydraulic diameter of the pipe and therefore different to a free air situation (which the article suggests is the case).

If so, presumably users are still going to need to model the differences in order to understand expected real world performance. Will be interesting to see how much benefit people can actually derive vs conventional wind tunnels.

Turbobanana

8,500 posts

232 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Do you have to beep your horn halfway through, to hear the echo?

swisstoni

24,168 posts

310 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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They could just have a plunger to push the debris out of the end.

ultrastapler

244 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Coincidently I was watching a video on Chip Gannassi’s similar tunnel only the other day.
It seemed to conclude that it didn’t turn them into an all conquering team in nascar or Indy car so unless it’s a lot cheaper to run, which is a possibility with the cost of energy, then it appears the CFD and wind tunnel simulations are pretty good these days

wolfracesonic

9,277 posts

158 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Will this help us find out if an F1 car can actually drive on the ceiling?

sticks090460

1,125 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Given the size of the car and the diameter of the tunnel, I’d be amazed if there weren’t some effect on the results they're seeing. Maybe, because that’s relatively static, it’s easy to model out…?

Wotzname

174 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Wonder if it'd help Lewis & George rolleyes

griffdude

1,933 posts

279 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Catesby tunnel is very local to me- I walk my dogs past it most weeks & to my knowledge hardly been used since opening October last year. The control building that houses the workshops looks very sad.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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ultrastapler said:
Coincidently I was watching a video on Chip Gannassi’s similar tunnel only the other day.
It seemed to conclude that it didn’t turn them into an all conquering team in nascar or Indy car so unless it’s a lot cheaper to run, which is a possibility with the cost of energy, then it appears the CFD and wind tunnel simulations are pretty good these days
Yep currently used by multiple NASCAR teams as well, I believe there are 3 or 4 in the US.

As you point out it'll be an order of magnitude cheaper to run than a wind tunnel, so cars like LMP2 who want to measure drag on their setups etc (rather than being allowed to fully re-develop their cars) will find it a cheap, effective tool

poo at Paul's

14,620 posts

206 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Just sounds like a load of nonsense to me.

gmasterfunk

482 posts

179 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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"Done 120mph in it, too. "

i know the level of writing is sometimes questionable but that is shocking.

Also aren't adverts on social media supposed to be clear they are adverts.

FlukePlay

1,198 posts

176 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Is there light at the end of this one? What happens when you do come out of the other end?

Chris C2

243 posts

80 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Part of the former Great Central Railway - a late high speed mainline from London to Leicester, Nottingham, Shefffield and Manchester closed by Beeching. Imagine how many billions would have been saved if they had reopened it and not bothered with HS2.

86wasagoodyear

997 posts

127 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Chris C2 said:
Part of the former Great Central Railway - a late high speed mainline from London to Leicester, Nottingham, Shefffield and Manchester closed by Beeching. Imagine how many billions would have been saved if they had reopened it and not bothered with HS2.
^This, with bells on. The disastrous consequences of the blinkered Beeching are still felt daily today, and will continue to be so forevermore.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

81 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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Use Musk's Hyperloop, he's not using it and you can control the atmosphere a lot better biggrin

Water Fairy

6,645 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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'.....a dead flat surface.....'

So not very realistic then?

P5BNij

15,875 posts

137 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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86wasagoodyear said:
Chris C2 said:
Part of the former Great Central Railway - a late high speed mainline from London to Leicester, Nottingham, Shefffield and Manchester closed by Beeching. Imagine how many billions would have been saved if they had reopened it and not bothered with HS2.
^This, with bells on. The disastrous consequences of the blinkered Beeching are still felt daily today, and will continue to be so forevermore.
I have to agree on that main point, however, whilst it was Beeching who proposed it's closure as part of his 1963 report, Labour promised to keep it open in their '64 election campaign and once in power they did a u-turn in by closing the line south of Rugby in September '66, they then closed the remaining route through Nottingham in May '69. A mate of mine was on the last train to leave Rugby going back to Nottingham and remembers thinking at the time what a huge mistake it was. Our booking on point is in a building right next to the track bed of the GC close to where the famous 'birdcage' bridge crossed the West Coast Mainline, so I'm reminded of the line's fate every time I arrive for work!

(On a very trivial note - a mate at work owns the huge enamel station entrance sign from Rugby Central and I'm trying to talk him into letting me buy it, it's 28' long and made up of four separate pieces wink)





Toltec

7,179 posts

254 months

Saturday 3rd September 2022
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It was on Walking Britain's Lost Railways a few years back. Series 3 episode 4 I think.