RE: Tuthill announces spectacular 993-based SCRS
RE: Tuthill announces spectacular 993-based SCRS
Sunday 11th September 2022

Tuthill announces spectacular 993-based SCRS

Ever wondered what a 993 Carrera with Group B influence might look like? Wonder no more


Tuthill Porsche was undoubtedly a hot topic on the manicured lawns of Pebble Beach thanks to its incredible 911K project. Fresh from confirmation of an 11,000rpm, 856kg 911 comes this, the 993-era 911 inspired by the Group B SC/RS. The Rothmans 911 rally car, if you didn’t know - an auspicious start for any restomod Porsche.  

That decision was an easy one for Tuthill, as the Group B programme was the first Porsche rallying program that the company was involved with. What better era to celebrate? That said, this SCRS is no bare-bones road racer in the mould of the 911K. Richard Tuthill suggests that it’s a car “for long road trips, to be enjoyed in comfort, but with an early feel.” He added: “This is the car to drive 500km a day without fatigue, but one should also be able to charge down a country road with the same sense of lightness one would normally associate with earlier Porsche 911s.” Which sounds like a formidable combination of talents, especially when brought together by the firm that bears his name.   

To achieve it, the SCRS build takes a standard 3.6-litre 964 Carrera and upgrades it to 3.8-litres. Though outputs haven’t yet been confirmed, a bespoke ‘high butterfly intake system’ should at least ensure this 911 sounds the part. Power reaches the road via a six-speed G50 gearbox. 

Additional changes - beyond the new panels for a 930-esque look - include bespoke 16-inch wheels, Tuthill calipers and two-way adjustable dampers ‘set for A roads’. The press release adds that the SCRS gets ‘993 running gear setup, to create a unique driving experience’, but doesn’t provide any further detail.  

And take a look inside. You’d be more than happy doing 500 clicks here, the later 993 cabin looking more accommodating than earlier cars and every surface beautifully upholstered. Tuthill says the inspiration for the interior has been taken from the 3.2 Club Sport of the late 80s; it’s pretty bare by modern standards, with door cards only there for doorhandles and storage in place of rear seats, but what more do you need than a wheel, pedals, leather bucket seats and a Bluetooth stereo? 

Tuthill is making just 15 of these SCRS 911s; given its press release already features quotes from satisfied customers, best move fast if you matched six numbers last night and really want one. And bear in mind that a manual 993 Carrera coupe of any stripe will cost £50k, just for starters. So a Tuthill SCRS won’t come cheap. Best cars never did, though.  


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Mercutio

Original Poster:

336 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Can someone help me please understand the restomod / retro mod air cooled market?

This is a spectacularly beautiful object from an outfit that could be considered top of the podium for this work in the UK.

However, there will be 15 perfectly good 993 Carreras that will be sacrificed on the altar. Does this make anyone else uneasy or am I just too poor to understand?

For me a pure 993 is a fantastic car. I want there to be plenty of used options because I think people should experience the car as Porsche intended and it is a great car of its own right.

The whole slashing and stripping of 964s for the previous decade of restomods didn’t sit right with me either

Thing is, 993s aren’t a protected species or listed building so my opinion is like screaming into the wind

Anyone else with me though or is this just me

DodgyGeezer

49,174 posts

221 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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yet another 911... yawn...

sidesauce

2,967 posts

249 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Why should what people choose to do with something that belongs to them, using their own money, be of concern to anyone other than them and the people involved in creating what they want?

This question always baffles me - do we not see people to re-develop houses built in, say, the 1970s or 80s - totally gut the interiors, repurpose, or even completely tear down and build again? Why should cars be any different?

Why does is matter if 993s are redesigned to look like another 911? Why exactly should people not have the right to modify and/or change a car they own as they see fit?

Jon_S_Rally

4,508 posts

119 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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sidesauce said:
Why should what people choose to do with something that belongs to them, using their own money, be of concern to anyone other than them and the people involved in creating what they want?

This question always baffles me - do we not see people to re-develop houses built in, say, the 1970s or 80s - totally gut the interiors, repurpose, or even completely tear down and build again? Why should cars be any different?

Why does is matter if 993s are redesigned to look like another 911? Why exactly should people not have the right to modify and/or change a car they own as they see fit?
I can't say I care a lot personally. I'd much rather look at this than a standard 964/993. I think a lot of people just have a bit of a problem with modified cars though. I don't understand why the car world obsesses over "original". I'd struggle to think of many cars where I wouldn't want to change at least some small thing.

It's incredible that the market for restomod 911s seems so long-lived though. People can't get enough of it.

dbrbot

49 posts

75 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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I notice it has a deep dish steering wheel. Has anyone used one of these on a road car? whats it like reaching the indicator stalk?

Wheel Turned Out

2,410 posts

69 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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A lovely thing, though the mega-money retromod Porsche market doesn't do much for me. Gorgeous colour chosen for this one.

jzakariya

189 posts

149 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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This looks absolutely fantastic. I don't get the moaning about donor cars either. They've been made into something better, so why not?

munk

269 posts

230 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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There's some pleasing wheel to tyre ratio and a healthy arch gap there. Good to see something with a nice bit of sidewall and looking usable. Nice looking thing.

Silvanus

6,917 posts

54 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
yet another 911... yawn...
I tend to agree, seems everyone is chucking fistful of cash al old Porsche 911s, its a bit boring. Not really a modern 911 fan, but an old restored original is a lovely thing.

shih tzu faced

2,597 posts

80 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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dbrbot said:
I notice it has a deep dish steering wheel. Has anyone used one of these on a road car? whats it like reaching the indicator stalk?
You have to stretch a bit further to reach it. Not trying to be sarcastic, it’s as simple as that thumbup

esotericar

745 posts

58 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Mercutio said:
Anyone else with me though or is this just me
Know what you mean, but with this car we are talking tiny numbers - 15 cars or whatever. 993s aren't that rare. So, it probably doesn't matter. Same with Singer. That actual number of cars involved doesn't actually add up to all that much.

My main issue with this car is that the remit doesn't seem to make sense. If you want to do 500km in a 911 optimised for 'A roads', that's the perfect job for something more modern. A 991.2 Touring will batter this thing for that remit at the more involving end of the scale or any modern Turbo model will obliterate it at the more insulating end of the spectrum. Heck, a 997 or 991 GTS would be better, too.

If the remit is maximum feel and character flinging something down a great backroad, then the air-cooled restomod done well will do things no modern can do. But for this more grand touring remit, feels like there's a guy with an aircooled hammer and every driving scenario looks like an aircooled nail.

Mercutio

Original Poster:

336 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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“But for this more grand touring remit, feels like there's a guy with an aircooled hammer and every driving scenario looks like an aircooled nail.”

Perfectly put

Speedgirl

291 posts

198 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Silvanus said:
DodgyGeezer said:
yet another 911... yawn...
I tend to agree, seems everyone is chucking fistful of cash al old Porsche 911s, its a bit boring. Not really a modern 911 fan, but an old restored original is a lovely thing.
Yes, but also different Porsches, like that amazing 928, and older Ferraris and sporty Alfas, rebuilt, remodelled and improved at great expense. Those with the money are increasingly looking backwards and we may see this trickle down to growth in more affordable ICE restomods. Current turbo ICE cars are less interesting and battery stuff just doesn’t do it for lots of people. Speed matters but it’s not everything!

swisstoni

24,166 posts

310 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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I don’t have a problem with resto mods if it means that people with skills to actually do things have paid employment.

In this particular case I’d spend my money on getting a car restored to how Porsche intended rather than what Joe Bloggs Ltd intended.

But Joe Bloggs Ltd will undoubtedly have the skill to do that for me too.

Jcwjosh

963 posts

143 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Mercutio said:
Can someone help me please understand the restomod / retro mod air cooled market?

This is a spectacularly beautiful object from an outfit that could be considered top of the podium for this work in the UK.

However, there will be 15 perfectly good 993 Carreras that will be sacrificed on the altar. Does this make anyone else uneasy or am I just too poor to understand?

For me a pure 993 is a fantastic car. I want there to be plenty of used options because I think people should experience the car as Porsche intended and it is a great car of its own right.

The whole slashing and stripping of 964s for the previous decade of restomods didn’t sit right with me either

Thing is, 993s aren’t a protected species or listed building so my opinion is like screaming into the wind

Anyone else with me though or is this just me
I am with you on this I was stuck in traffic yesterday and there’s a house we drive past - 2 993’s one a silver turbo the other a zenith blue could of been a turbo too. They are beautiful and my dream car one day. There was also a mk1 gti on the drive and a red Porsche 365 I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a BMW 2002 turbo there too. They are all standard aesthetically and a pleasure to see.

robsprocket

133 posts

209 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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dbrbot said:
I notice it has a deep dish steering wheel. Has anyone used one of these on a road car? whats it like reaching the indicator stalk?
If you see a standard wheel with the airbag removed they already have quite a dish so maybe only an inch or so different depending on the wheel and boss used.

Mysstree

547 posts

77 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
yet another 911... yawn...
Need something like “Godwins Law” along the lines of that if you mention anything Porsche within seven days of the last article then your a failing PHeader.

Bobby Lee

308 posts

86 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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sidesauce said:
Why should what people choose to do with something that belongs to them, using their own money, be of concern to anyone other than them and the people involved in creating what they want?
See the example of listed buildings given in the comment above yours.

Macboy

784 posts

236 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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There should be a restomod bingo card like the British supercar one of old. Porsche...tick. 911...tick. £50k donor car. £495k complete...tick.

Speedgirl

291 posts

198 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Jcwjosh said:
I am with you on this I was stuck in traffic yesterday and there’s a house we drive past - 2 993’s one a silver turbo the other a zenith blue could of been a turbo too. They are beautiful and my dream car one day. There was also a mk1 gti on the drive and a red Porsche 365 I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a BMW 2002 turbo there too. They are all standard aesthetically and a pleasure to see.
Mysstree said:
DodgyGeezer said:
yet another 911... yawn...
Need something like “Godwins Law” along the lines of that if you mention anything Porsche within seven days of the last article then your a failing PHeader.
It would be nice to read something about the 2002 turbo or GTi Mk1. That would be good. But Tuthill doesn’t do those. There is something about the Quattro on PH, see that instead. Nice old cars well looked after are rarely newsworthy.

People for some reason love messing about with and improving Porsches with greater or lesser success. And then sending out press releases and organising test drives and marketing stuff. It’s a job. We’re the customers via PH (not personally of course).