Engine, or driving dynamics?
Engine, or driving dynamics?
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Xenoous

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2,501 posts

89 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Morning.

I've just been out for a nice quiet morning drive on some great Suffolk roads in my Megane RS265. I had an absolute blast and it's times like this I remember why I purchased the car in the first place. It's driving dynamics. It's darty, fun, quick enough and handles beautifully. The engine, while punchy and keen, definitely isn't the last word in refined. Afterall, the engine code is F4RT, and it sounds like one.

My previous car, a 2.5 Focus St drove well, but it wasn't a touch on the Megane dynamically. But I enjoyed it for different reasons, the engine. It was the focal point of the car.

It got me thinking, what's more important to other PH'ers? The way a car handles, the way it feels to drive through the twisty stuff, or the fact you know you have a beautiful sounding engine under the bonnet? Some people are lucky enough to afford a car that has both... Gits!

Over to you...


Mr E

23,088 posts

290 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I have an elise. With a k-series.

Xenoous

Original Poster:

2,501 posts

89 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Mr E said:
I have an elise. With a k-series.
Enough said biggrin

eldar

25,313 posts

227 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I have an old Skoda Citigo, 60bhp. Never had a car with so much fun per hp.

Xenoous

Original Poster:

2,501 posts

89 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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eldar said:
I have an old Skoda Citigo, 60bhp. Never had a car with so much fun per hp.
I have to admit, I like the idea of an Up! GTI. Using all of the power much more of the time.

ChevronB19

9,201 posts

194 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Xenoous said:
eldar said:
I have an old Skoda Citigo, 60bhp. Never had a car with so much fun per hp.
I have to admit, I like the idea of an Up! GTI. Using all of the power much more of the time.
Yep, got one - you can thrash it and still be legal (ish) - it’s great fun!

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

231 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Mr E said:
I have an elise. With a k-series.
Nice, you got both cool

For me it’s having a car where it all feels coherent.
Too much of one or the other isn’t pleasing in the long term imo.

MikeM6

6,070 posts

133 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I am extremely fortunate in that I (sort of) have both, but not in the same car. The M6 has the engine and good dynamics, but it is no Elise. The way it sounds as it climbs the rev range, as well as the way that it kicks harder above 6krpm is a great reminder of why I bought it.

The MGB has the lightweight, small footprint and analogue feel that makes it so much fun out on county B roads, but the engine is far from inspiring in any characteristic. Every one of its remaining HP is put to work just to keep up with traffic. I suspect it's broken, but it is so much fun.

To be honest, the Giulietta does sit nicely between them as it is very secure and comfortable being driven quickly. It's not exactly a hot hatch with only 170hp and soft suspension, but it can hustle when needed and seems to resist understeer very well.


Heathwood

3,036 posts

233 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I’ve always been more of an engine person (Golf VR6, Civic VTI and BMW 130i to give some examples over the past couple of decades). I do sometimes wonder whether I have my priorities wrong. Probably the most fun car I owned was a Mk2 Golf Gti when I was 20, and the engine certainly wasn’t the star of the show.

Daston

6,154 posts

234 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I tend to go for both when it comes to my fun cars. I would take the older flat six cayman over the newer 4 pot for example.

My Daily is a Mk3 ST Estate and the engine is pretty dull (the plumbed in noise does it no favors) but I thought an S4 estate would be a bit heavy on the wallet so comprimised. I imagine the ST handles a lot better than the Audi too in the twisty bits.

kambites

71,599 posts

252 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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For me it depends on the car's purpose. For a sports/B-road car I'd take dynamics every time. For a barge/GT, I'd say the engine is more important.

However, the engine does play a part in "dynamics" in the form of things like throttle response.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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It's a tricky balance to strike for me - I want both ideally, but one can complement the other.

For example, a Mk1 MX5 was a good car hampered by a truly uninspiring and terrible engine. My 130i is a truly fantastic engine (for non-M) hampered by a rubbish car around it.

MitchT

17,157 posts

240 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I'm shaping up to buy an F32 BMW 440i. It won't be the most agile car by any stretch of the imagination but the inline six sounds lovely and it'll eat miles effortlessly. I work on the principle that my opportunities to "drive it like I stole it" are far and few between, but my opportunity to enjoy a refined, smooth and gorgeous sounding engine is every time I use the car. Plus, the driving dynamics of a 440i are still great for a car of its size and class, even though it'll obviously be no Elise!

xu5

791 posts

188 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I would say dynamics for me. No matter what speed you are going, feeling a car work over the road surface is quite satisfying to me I find.

Having said that I do tend to fit an after market exhaust if the car is too quiet. A sporty exhaust, nothing to loud.

keo

3,022 posts

201 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I would say dynamics. I suppose I have both having a 410 Exige but I definitely prefer dynamics to the engine. Although I’m trying to get the man maths to work on a Lexus LC500 at the minute so that’s blown my own argument out of the water!

cerb4.5lee

45,080 posts

211 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I've never been all that handy behind the wheel and I'm more into straights than corners. So for me it has mostly always been about the engine/exhaust and the noise it makes.

cerb4.5lee

45,080 posts

211 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I think one of the best examples for me was my E53 X5 4.8iS. It wasn't a sporting car in anyway shape or form(too heavy/too big/too tall), however I really wanted it for its V8 engine and the noise it made though. cloud9

georgeyboy12345

4,648 posts

66 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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I'd say both are valid

Zarco

21,126 posts

240 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Xenoous said:
Mr E said:
I have an elise. With a k-series.
Enough said biggrin
K Series can make a lovely rorty 4 pot noise.

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 19th September 2022
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Driving dynamics every time

MX5
Any number of Lotus’

To name just two

Nice to have both of course but dynamics first for me.