RE: Vauxhall Signum V6 | Spotted
RE: Vauxhall Signum V6 | Spotted
Thursday 22nd September 2022

Vauxhall Signum V6 | Spotted

Times are tough. Exec Vectra to the rescue?


Nearly twenty years on from its first appearance, the Vauxhall Signum is still hard to figure. The model was based on the Vectra wagon (hardly an auspicious beginning) which endowed it with a longer wheelbase. But rather than differentiating it with a rakish new body, its maker plonked what looked like a giant hatchback shell on top and then insisted that it had created a new market segment. ‘Signum Class’ it said, embodied elegance, driving refinement and exceptional interior flexibility. 

Somewhat typically for Vauxhall (or Opel, at any rate) in reality it had only seriously attempted to address one of its stated objectives. Thanks to its FlexSpace seating system, the Signum did achieve a measure of limb-accommodating adaptability inside. This was achieved by doing away with the standard bench and putting the two outermost rear seats on runners, allowing occupants 130mm of lengthwise adjustment. You could even recline through 30 degrees. And use the diddy centre seat as an armrest and cupholder. 

Needless to say, this was intended as a ploy to lure space-obsessed bigwigs into ‘Signum Class’ and sail triumphantly into profit. Unfortunately, Vauxhall - as it was wont to do - misjudged the target audience’s appetite for a) weird-looking cars and b) anything badged Vauxhall. Contemporaneous reports labelled the car ‘unloved’ almost from the get-go, and tended to track the immediate and inevitable tumble prices took the moment any variant became secondhand. Or even before they did. 

As a result, any decent surviving example pitching up in the bright lights of 2022 must surely be regarded with the kind of sentimental glee you might expect to feel when happening upon a DVD copy of Battlefield Earth in your local petrol station. Back in January, Autocar boldly suggested that it was one of the best all-rounders you could imagine. We’d row that statement back a bit - possibly all the way to the shore - but if cavernous and usefully versatile cabins are your thing, it would be hard to argue that you’re not getting a lot for your money. 

Of course, the other nice thing about Vauxhall’s marker-pen-sniffing era is that it was inclined to stick oversized engines in pretty much anything that happened to be coming down the production line. Consequently, after a spit-and-polish facelift in 2005, you could have a Signum with much the same 2.8-litre turbocharged V6 that Saab used to great effect in the 9-3 Aero. Which is what we have here, twinned with a six-speed manual gearbox and the mildly whizzy Design trim. 

Accordingly, and somewhat improbably, Vauxhall’s ‘unloved’ old bus - in a particularly unloveable colour, it must be said - isn’t a million miles away from the holy trinity: cheap, fast and large. Granted, there are riders on all three (it isn’t quite as cheap or as fast or even as large as a truly first-rate barge would be) and certainly it’ll never stop being slightly odd. But if you can forgive that little lot, you might finally be ready to climb aboard Vauxhall’s half-forgotten class experiment. 


SPECIFICATION | Vauxhall Signum V6

Engine: 2,792cc V6, turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 230@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 243@1,900-4,500rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 2005
Recorded mileage: 70,000
Price new: £23,050
Yours for: £4,190

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gonnagetyoursBenny

Original Poster:

103 posts

135 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Maybe for £1490

p4cks

7,525 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Vauxhall/Opel's interiors of this era were absolutely terrible in every way

AndySheff

6,934 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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gonnagetyoursBenny said:
Maybe for £1490
I thought SOTW was a day early.

robemcdonald

10,044 posts

226 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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I thought these were a great idea at the time and deserved to be more popular, a big spacious hatchback (I know the vectors was also)
You could say it’s a precursor to the design of the Ioniq 5.
The interior hasn’t aged quite as well as the sterile though….

Hub

7,155 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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p4cks said:
Vauxhall/Opel's interiors of this era were absolutely terrible in every way
Yes!

Not anywhere near as either quirky or luxurious as they wanted you to believe (though didn't they come with a mini fridge, or am I mistaken?)

wpa1975

14,796 posts

144 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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So a 17 year old Vauxhall for over £4k rofl

These were awful new, struggling to see the point in buying it.

Alorotom

12,788 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Always had a soft spot for the Signum and I don’t know why. Nearly bought one on a couple of occasions but never went through with it, the last time being I opted for an Audi S6 instead.

I remember last looking at them probably 9-10yrs ago now and they were cheaper then! Even with the covid premium that’s nuts for over £4k.

dgswk

959 posts

124 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Didn’t a certain Mr Wheeler of TVR fame have one of these as a daily?

I quite like them, dunno why. Had a Veccy estate of similar vintage, also in Design spec but with the 150bhp diesel. Went quite well in period. Think I saw the Signum as the next rung on the exec ladder at the time hehe

vikingaero

13,483 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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My friends and I used to think the Signum was the perfect car for nocturnal back seat activites - tinted glass, legroom for errr legs, anonymous and cheap in comparison to premium cars. biggrin

SteveStrange

7,780 posts

243 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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The advert puts me right off, before we even get to the car. A 3.14 "trader" working from a shonky industrial farm unit, using the local pub car park (The Hare, Roxwell) to take photos in. Appointment only, because he has to dig the car out from whatever barn it's parked at the back of. Inspires zero trust in the professionalism of the trader, and I automatically assume they will take zero responsibility for any issues that come up with the car or sale. All the adverts start off with hawking finance. Just screams "avoid".


boholoblanka

2,564 posts

168 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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gonnagetyoursBenny said:
Maybe for £1490
i thought that aswell.

Fusion777

2,631 posts

78 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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I remember the depreciation being incredible on these, even by the standard of V6 big petrol Vauxhalls. It was probably only worth £4200 at 5 years old.

0ddball

916 posts

169 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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SteveStrange said:
The advert puts me right off, before we even get to the car. A 3.14 "trader" working from a shonky industrial farm unit, using the local pub car park (The Hare, Roxwell) to take photos in. Appointment only, because he has to dig the car out from whatever barn it's parked at the back of. Inspires zero trust in the professionalism of the trader, and I automatically assume they will take zero responsibility for any issues that come up with the car or sale. All the adverts start off with hawking finance. Just screams "avoid".
This teacher

A chancer who picked it up for about £500 and is trying his luck.

cerb4.5lee

45,080 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Like others I've always liked these, but I can't really put my finger on why though. I guess that I just liked it because it was a little bit different. The engine appeals to me in this one as well.

satfinal

2,625 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Never seen the appeal of these plain mondeo/vectra/whatever V6s. Not that fast or powerful, doesn't sound that good, thirsty, tax heavy.

MountainsofSussex

450 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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p4cks said:
Vauxhall/Opel's interiors of this era were absolutely terrible in every way
The interior looks almost identical to my shed Astra from the same era. I'd slightly disagree in that, yes, they are really really boring, but everything is in a sensible place, just works and doesn't fall apart. Surprisingly comfy seats too. However, I wouldn't touch this car with a 10 mile barge pole!!

Global Nomad

105 posts

111 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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these always made me think the Vauxhall designers were aspiring to work at Renault but didn't quite have the panache (or full commitment) for a vel satis or avantime

gravitygravy

99 posts

66 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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Blander than a very bland thing. Give me a Vauxhall Senator 3.0 straight six any day, at least they had some panache, the Signum just looks like a fat Astra.

Turbobanana

8,500 posts

231 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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I think a little context is required here.

PH staff (and forum contributors) love to bash Vauxhalls, and for the most part we - as a collective of motoring nerds - are probably right to do so. But to claim, as the article does, that Vauxhalls are / were not popular is utter rubbish. They sold millions of cars, including oddball stuff like this or the VX220, just not necessarily to people who were "car enthusiasts". True, many were fleet sales, but fleet buyers are notoriously picky, and not just about available discount.

All the above being said, surely this is worth about half the £asking, no?

S600BSB

8,537 posts

136 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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£1,500 tops.