RE: Final Lamborghini Aventador signals end of an era
RE: Final Lamborghini Aventador signals end of an era
Monday 26th September 2022

Final Lamborghini Aventador signals end of an era

Last-ever example of Lamborghini's flagship has exited the building...


We made a video not long ago on the Lamborghini Aventador LP-780-4 Ultimae. What a thing it was, too. It showed that the Aventador wasn’t simply a shock and awe tactic to wow passers-by (which it still absolutely does, by the way) it had developed into a stunningly good driver’s car. I still find it hard to believe how a car of its considerable size, carrying a heavy lump of V12, could shrink around the driver so easily on tight roads and feel so, well, ultimately nimble.

The other thing it delivered was a perspective on natural aspiration vs. forced induction and electrical assistance. That’s a perspective on the past vs. the future. On the one hand, the future looks bright. Turbos and electric motors fill holes in torque curves. They are better, technically. But what the Ultimae confirmed - not for the first time - was that technically better isn’t always better, better. Not in the real world.

The Ultimae has 780hp. It does 0-62mph in 2.7 seconds. It’s as fast as the fastest cars out there. And yet, believe it or not, this was useable power and speed for the road. It felt relevant in a way that the Ferrari 296 GTB does not. You heard so much more from that easy-breathing V12 that it’s simply stunning just to drive around on a light throttle. And if you floored it, it sounded even better, but when you did that with the engine ‘off cam’, as it were, you could savour the deep induction raw for decent periods, without the thing lighting up and dropping you directly into the dock.

What I’ve found disheartening about the future – when driving cars like the 296 GTB – is these highly efficient speed machines are too good. You simply cannot use full throttle on the road for more than a second or so. And with less sound to savour from evermore stifled, small-capacity V6 engines, the only time they feel amazing is unleashed on a track. Well, that’s not easily exploitable fun.

So when Stephan Winkelmann, Chairman and CEO of Automobili Lamborghini, said at the Aventador’s launch in 2011, “the Aventador is a jump of two generations in terms of design and technology, with an exceptional package of unique, innovative technologies and performance that is simply overwhelming” he was wrong. It wasn’t overwhelming.

And so it’s sad to learn (even though we knew it was coming) that the pure, naturally aspirated V12 era has drawn to a close at Automobili Lamborghini. The final Aventador LP 780-4 Ultimae Roadster has gone down the line at Sant’Agata. It was a special light blue Ad Personam car, destined for a Swiss market – ironically, probably one place in Europe where you can’t exploit it, thanks to the Swiss obsession with draconian speed enforcement.

I am not sad simply because this is change. I am sad because this change leaves something behind. 11,465 Aventadors have been delivered to customers worldwide, and, if my experience of driving a small fraction of them is anything to go by, they’ve all brought joy, not just to their owners but to everyone who sees them. It’s a car that makes children excitable and adults excitable children. We’ve seen 10 one-offs and limited editions and it’s been depicted in films and video games. There will be a replacement, of course, and it will have a V12, but will it be ‘better better’ with the electrical assistance it’ll gain? I hope so, but fear it will just be better, which means worse.

As we move to this hybrid interim and then to a full electric future, it would be nice if manufacturers absorbed the lesson that cars like the Aventador weren’t defined just by speed alone, but by the experience they offered. The spine-tingling experience of sensation. That’s what they need to work on as we go forward. It’s time, perhaps, to start engineering some limitations, or even life-affirming flaws into new cars, and forget about perfection.


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Galsia

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2,266 posts

220 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Absolutely. It is time to slow things down a little on road cars. Manual gearboxes would be a good start.

Red6

669 posts

86 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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The Aventador will be missed. Yes, the gearbox was much maligned, but in terms of character and presence, few could rival it. The gen1 Aventador still looks fresh, but the pick of the bunch would be the S.

But check out this SV vid - https://youtu.be/pmLQRTvq2gg

garypotter

2,073 posts

180 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Oh what a car, my fav super/hyper car

Twinair

1,048 posts

172 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Well. When they are gone, they are gone. If you have ‘just’ gone along with the demise of the ICE with this frenzy of ‘green’, don’t be coming on these pages in years to come lamenting their passing…

wpa1975

14,795 posts

144 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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End of an era, sad times

s2000db

1,422 posts

183 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Great epitaph for an iconic car..

It seems that Lamborghini’s philosophy going forward is to make the most exciting cars for the road, though not necessarily the fastest. Driving a Supercar should be a visceral experience not an efficiently sterile one.

Here’s to many more Lambo’s and to the smiles they put on peoples faces when they hear/see them coming!

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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The fact there will never be any more Aventadors trumps any feeling I have about the end of production of it. I don't mourn its passing at all.

If the Sián is anything to go by, I don't think we or Lamborghini themselves have anything to worry about; the replacement car, whatever it is, will be epic.

And to the idea of a manual box - absolutely not a good place to start. If someone wants that sort of thing, Lamborghini isn't the brand for it at all IMO.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

36,729 posts

242 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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sidesauce said:
The fact there will never be any more Aventadors trumps any feeling I have about the end of production of it. I don't mourn its passing at all.

If the Sián is anything to go by, I don't think we or Lamborghini themselves have anything to worry about; the replacement car, whatever it is, will be epic.

And to the idea of a manual box - absolutely not a good place to start. If someone wants that sort of thing, Lamborghini isn't the brand for it at all IMO.
See, I think the Aventador is flamboyant and excessive in a good way. I think the Sian is fking hideous.

cookie1600

2,749 posts

191 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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That wrap of the bonnet doesn't look too good.........

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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cookie1600 said:
That wrap of the bonnet doesn't look too good.........
It’s only a shipping film.

General Price

6,366 posts

213 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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cookie1600 said:
That wrap of the bonnet doesn't look too good.........
laugh

Friday afternoon.

bluesierra

160 posts

126 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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That photography's great - I love the photo of the drivetrain being lowered into the car; it really gives the impression of the Aventador as an engine and gearbox with a car around it smile

asci.white

561 posts

103 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Such an amazing car.

Wasn't the gearbox shift designed for full bore? For gentle changes you had to work around the kick with gentle throttle inputs.

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Like the colour.
Wonder if they make the tractors on the same assembly line rolleyes
Wonder if they have ever put the V12 car engine in a tractor? eek

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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asci.white said:
Wasn't the gearbox shift designed for full bore? For gentle changes you had to work around the kick with gentle throttle inputs.
Correct, single-clutch autos are generally best at absolutely full chat when the amount of clutch slip etc can be minimised (or eliminated) and you effectively quick-shift like a motorcycle into the next gear.

Like an SMG in BMWs of old, it needs a little work to smooth it out at sensible speeds.

Charlie_1

1,069 posts

122 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Galsia said:
Absolutely. It is time to slow things down a little on road cars. Manual gearboxes would be a good start.
slow things down Really ?

Red6

669 posts

86 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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asci.white said:
Such an amazing car.

Wasn't the gearbox shift designed for full bore? For gentle changes you had to work around the kick with gentle throttle inputs.
I believe that this is the case

TyrannosauRoss Lex

36,729 posts

242 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Charlie_1 said:
Galsia said:
Absolutely. It is time to slow things down a little on road cars. Manual gearboxes would be a good start.
slow things down Really ?
I actually agree. Look at the new C63....I genuinely think that the whole performance war is getting daft. I think for most something like 400-500bhp is the sweetspot. Fast enough for easy overtakes, not so fast that you can't use the performance for more than 2 seconds either. I get the appeal of more power, but I do think that any more performance than many high performance currently have is just daft.

generationx

9,278 posts

135 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Still top of my fantasy garage list. Gloriously ridiculous but, for me, there's nothing else like it at the moment.

RIP Aventador.

kambites

71,599 posts

251 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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The performance war for saloon cars started getting daft 20+ years ago, but supercars are a rather different kettle of fish. If you don't try to make them as fast as possible, what exactly do they offer over sports cars?