RE: Pristine Toyota Celica GT Four for sale
RE: Pristine Toyota Celica GT Four for sale
Monday 3rd October 2022

Pristine Toyota Celica GT Four for sale

Toyota latest homologation special is still causing a stir - now the old one is, too


Rallying might not seem quite as important now as it once did, but a bit of history was made over the weekend by Toyota. Its Finnish driver Kalle Rovanpera became drivers’ champ; no big deal, you might think, given how many rally stars have originated from Scandinavia (though he is the first Finn since Marcos Gronholm). However, Rovanpera’s triumph is notable for his age: he became WRC champ aged just 22 years and one day old. The record previously belonged to Colin McRae and had stood for almost 30 years, the Scot clinching that iconic title in 1995 at the age of 27. Given drivers like Loeb were still winning WRC title into their late 30s, it looks like Rovanpera could have one heck of a career ahead of him.

Furthermore, though various Covid crises put paid to Toyota’s hope for directly competing with a homologated GR Yaris, the win will surely do the reputation of its hot hatch hero no harm at all. Even almost two years after launch, nothing can quite spark up car conversation like the Yaris; the GR Corolla brought it back into the fold recently, and now there’s a memorable WRC victory as well. Just when it seemed like we’d moved on a bit…

Before GR-Four, though, there was GT-Four. While the Yaris did prompt a little more interest in the old Celicas (the GT-Four badge ran through three generations, from 1986-1999), it arguably still lacks the enthusiast kudos of both contemporary Toyotas and rivals. The excitement around an immaculate 90s’ Supra would only be surpassed by that for a similarly pristine Evo or Impreza. Yet the GT-Four never hit those heady heights - if only Brian had a 10-second Celica in Fast & Furious. What might have been…

It certainly had plenty going for it as a cult hero, right down to the oh-so-90s three-spoke wheels. The GT Four was the first Japanese turbocharged, all-wheel drive car to enter the WRC; the ST165 generation first appeared in 1988, winning its first rally in 1989. The later ST185 was Toyota’s most successful rally car in history, and the ST205 - as this Celica is - boasted the infamous illegal turbo restrictors that saw Toyota banned from the WRC for a year. Yet the car was good enough to win the 1996 European Rally Championship. So there’s performance, history and infamy in a WRC career, but still little love it seems.

The price must have paid its part. In 1994 a Celica GT-Four would have cost £10k more than an Impreza Turbo and £5,000 more than even an Escort Cossie. Talk about a tough sell. Even the most ardent fans would have struggled to spend 50 per cent more than the Impreza on another Japanese rally rocket with similar performance. Still, it means those cars that come up for sale now are very, very rare indeed - even the Cossie is 10 a penny by the standards of the GT-Four.

This one isn’t a UK car, but rather a flawless example from Japan. It’s covered only 15,000 miles since 1995, and they could have been sat on a dyno given the condition. There are seemingly no signs of wear anywhere, from the engine bay to the bootlid. The GT-Four has just been imported and is said to come with stacks of history and without a single modification. This remains to the specification intended by Toyota when it left the factory all those years ago. Pretty remarkable, really.

Now, while values of the GT-Four haven’t skyrocketed like certain competition cars, they have been climbing. We welcomed it into the PH Heroes hall of fame almost a decade ago, when good ones could be bought for less than £10k. Pre-Covid a modified (but seemingly nice) example was comfortably under £20k. This one is a fair bit more, the selling dealer asking £45,000. However, this does look like an unrepeatable opportunity now given the Celica’s age and rarity. And imagine what the equivalent Impreza might cost. It’s not even that much more than it costs to skip the queue for a pre-owned Yaris, either…


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Bobby Lee

Original Poster:

308 posts

85 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I’d expect it to at least be on a white background, for that price.

NordicCrankShaft

1,957 posts

145 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Finland isn't Scandinavia or part of Scandinavia.

Cool car horrendous colour.
See one quite often locally in silver,has those black extensions that make the rear spoiler bigger.

DuckAvenger

332 posts

163 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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That colour though...

ChrisCh86

1,133 posts

74 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Doesn't have the full height rear wing!

I'd rather get a newish GR-Yaris, for less money than this - a far better car too. These make most sense at < £10k.

the_hood

777 posts

224 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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DuckAvenger said:
That colour though...
+1

J4CKO

46,992 posts

230 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Was suing for years these were undervalued relative their Ford and Lancia contemporaries.

Anyway, looks like they are finally having their day.

Just not sure I want one in seventies bathroom suite yellow.

cerb4.5lee

45,064 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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A good mate of mine had one of these in a silver/grey colour, and I always enjoyed driving it. It wasn't as quick as my S14a 200SX running about 250bhp though, and we used to have a right laugh racing each other. Good times. driving

They were really cheap back then as well, so I was a bit surprised at the price of this one to be fair.

Cobracc

3,520 posts

180 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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£30k too much....

DodgyGeezer

49,164 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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always thought that these had a bigger rear spoiler confused I'm more on the muscle side of things but that said I can see why people would want one (sadly the colour is a little dull so, IMO, it falls between the wow I LOVE that colour and the 'meh' it's ok)

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

53 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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They've painted the edges of the rusty discs with the silver paint they used for the wheels without removing them first.
Maybe a new set of discs and pads would eat into the £35k profit they're making on it.
Also maybe it was asking too much to clean and polish the bottom lip of the sills and deal with that patch of rust..

Edited by Draxindustries1 on Monday 3rd October 18:37

Mr E

23,088 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
always thought that these had a bigger rear spoiler confused
Riser blocks might be in the boot. If not, available or you can probably fabricate them. I never liked the high wing.

Turbobanana

8,500 posts

231 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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What colour would the PH Collective rather it be?

cerb4.5lee

45,064 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Turbobanana said:
What colour would the PH Collective rather it be?
Red or Black for me. smile

Mr E

23,088 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Turbobanana said:
What colour would the PH Collective rather it be?
Red. Obviously.
Facelift with the 3 post wing, clear rear indicators and superleggeras.

Code Black

189 posts

79 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Like the car, dont like it in Custard Yellow. Agree the price seems a little expensive.

sjabrown

2,091 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Colour is no problem for me, but the price is.

Sion111R

423 posts

122 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Car prices are bloody depressing.

cerb4.5lee

45,064 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Sion111R said:
Car prices are bloody depressing.
yes

Mr Tidy

31,748 posts

157 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I've always thought this generation of Celica was the best looking one, and a GT Four has to be the one to have.

But even if the price didn't put me off the colour definitely would!

200Plus Club

13,769 posts

308 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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cerb4.5lee said:
yes
Just because they stuck £45k on it that doesn't mean it's worth it or anyone would buy it.
If it was under 5k miles possibly as a unicorn car.

My ST205 wrc was an awesome car, one of my favourites but heavily modified (354bhp). It would lay 4 separate black lines out of junctions if you launched it hard enough :-)
Factory recaros, high wing, 3" downpipe and blitz NUR exhaust, 18" OZ Super tourismo, Apexi power fc, forged pistons, hybrid turbo, quite a few TRD goodies. Had it 6yrs, spent about 15 grand on it and let it go for £6k when prices were dropping away... loved every minute of that car.