RE: Fast for £20k | End of the line special!
RE: Fast for £20k | End of the line special!
Saturday 22nd October 2022

Fast for £20k | End of the line special!

So what can you get for 17 per cent of a former PM's allowance?


BMW M6, 2013, 94k, £20,995

If you’re going to go a bit over budget, it better be worth it. And if the challenge is fast for £20k (the price begins with ‘20’, it’s close enough) there surely won’t be many disappointed by a BMW M6. With a twin-turbo, 4.4-litre V8, an engine so mighty it’s still in production more than a decade after launch, this was BMW’s fastest-ever two-door car at launch - with the right options paid for, it would do 189mph. And that’s fast for any money, let alone £20k. Even if this one is restricted to a mere 155mph, it wouldn’t take a specialist too long (or too much) to set the big Beemer free. When not attempting more than three miles a minute, moreover, the M6 remains one of BMW’s most handsome cars of the past few years, with a smart interior as well. This one is higher mileage, and it won’t be cheap to run, but what a way to spend it… MB

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Honda Civic Type R, 2015, 77k, £16,995

You know a car is fast when nothing else in its sector ever goes much faster. The FK2 era of Civic Type R was launched way back in 2015, yet its 310hp, 2.0-litre turbo remains competitive to this day. Its successor boasted just 10hp more, and we’re not expecting huge gains for the upcoming FL5, either. The Civic remains so powerful and so fast (with a 167mph top speed) that it’s still more potent that a new Golf GTI Clubsport, Focus ST or i30 N. Only now it’s available for half its new price, with this red one having accrued 77,000 miles under its remarkably well-presented wheels. Shame the tyres are cheap - a Type R really needs proper rubber to make the most of its razor-sharp chassis. Maybe factor that into an offer - it’s for sale at £16,995. MB

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Vauxhall VX220 Turbo, 2005, 55k, £19,950

Proof that low weight is just as effective as big power for going fast, the VX220 was a revelation when it launched in 2004. Having a Vauxhall built from a Lotus platform was exciting enough, then along came the one with more power than any Elise available at the time - for less than £30k. The reality was as exciting as the promise, too, the Turbo scooting to 60mph in less than five seconds and boasting genuine 150mph potential. A bit too exciting for some it turned out, as the press launch for the Turbo infamously saw rather few cars return than were sent out. Its exhilarating nature, plus a good few years of cheap VXs being available, has seen values rise. Still cheaper than an Elise, though - this 2005 Turbo has had a lot of recent work, and is for sale at £19,950 with 55,000 miles. MB

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Renault Megane 275 Cup S, 2016, 47k, £17,995

There are many contenders for the best hot hatch ever, but whichever way you sway on the matter the Renault Megane RS must be in the running. Especially when it comes with a little more than standard. This one’s been treated to a few choice upgrades that turn it up from the standard 275hp to 300hp, thanks to a KTR eco remap, KTR exhaust and sports cat. Is that too much for a front-driver to handle? No. The Megane RS’s brilliant chassis can almost certainly deal with that. It’s got adjustability and epic body control wedded to the tenacious traction of that locking diff. And you can feel everything that’s going on up front through steering that sizzles away describing every detail. You have to put up with a few iffy bits, like the dark-ages infotainment and a driving position that needs some forgiveness, but those mega Recaros help to assuage the latter. And that’s the word to finish on: mega. JH

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Maserati Gransport, 2007, 73k, £19,997

This may have Brave Pill written all over it, but I can’t see a Gransport up for £20k and ignore it for the purposes of this list. It’s one of my all-time favourite cars because it’s given me plenty of pleasure over the years, and few cars at this money get you so close to supercar thrills. If your head is shouting ‘settle for the 911’ but your heart yearns for a Hollywood-style romance, then go for it. The Gransport will tickle you pink in most respects, but the absolute clinchers include quick-witted steering, an astute but playful rear-drive chassis that oversteers easily and predictably, with a 4.2-litre V8 that makes one of the richest off-beat growls going. It both soothes and screams depending on which side of 4,000rpm you are. ‘What about the gearbox?’ some will say. It won’t suit everyone, true, but never entertain the idea it’s an auto. Just use the paddles and work it like a manual, bleeding the throttle between changes, and you’ll find interaction that DCTs can’t match. JH

Volkswagen Golf R Estate, 2016, 42k, £20,000

If there was any guilt about promoting a Maser (which there isn’t) then the Golf R wagon is here to dilute it. When it comes to easy speed with a practical bent, this is it. It also adds four-wheel drive dependability to counter the potential torque steer of a 300hp front-driven Megane and the out-and-out sidewaysness of a Gransport. Indeed, not much can match the Golf R’s clawing traction and whatever-the-weather cross-country credentials. Throw in a quick-shifting DSG ‘box and it can deal ably with your everyday commute should that involve snarled-up traffic. Does that make it boring? Well, it might not be as extreme in the chassis department as the other choices, but boring it isn’t. Not when 300hp translates to a 0-62 time of whisker over five seconds. I chose the wagon specifically, because the extra dimension of a fast estate is always cool. On paper at least, that makes this one of the most complete packages out there. JH


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Discussion

Dombilano

Original Poster:

1,464 posts

85 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Toilet time man maths game right here. Such a wide variety of motors, but for my 20k it's the Maserati for me.

Lexus ISF would be a good punt at this money too

Arsecati

2,786 posts

147 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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I am far from a Beemer fan, but my god, HOW has BMW got it so wrong in their recent 'design offerings', when they were producing this M6 only up until 4 years ago? Such a fantastic looking car - the definition of understated class: I'd quite happily look at that all day - that is one handsome beast.

As for the Type-R? Every time I see budget tyres on a performance car - I walk. The one thing you simply cannot skimp on with these types of car is tyres, and if they've cut corners with the rubber..... the LITERAL thing that keeps you on the road - where else have they cut corners? Such a pity - and all for the sake of a few hundred quid.

oldaudi

1,642 posts

188 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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I think a slight error in the text. Wasn’t the m6 e63 a v10 not a v8? The 645 and 650 were v8 and the m6 was the same as the m5 v10?




Edited by oldaudi on Saturday 22 October 07:32

ChrisH72

3,136 posts

82 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Think it'd be the Civic for me.

Davanti tyres aren't too bad. We had a pair on the family car after getting a puncture and having to go with what the garage had in stock. It was no CTR though. My Fiesta ST came with Prestivo tyres on the front courtesy of the Ford dealer who had just replaced the old worn rubber. They were terrible and have been replaced with PS5's. I am quite picky with tyres and hate seeing cheap ditch finders on performance cars. No excuse on that Civic really as even premium tyres are not too expensive for it.

I wonder how the fk2 stacks up as a daily drive?

HM-2

12,467 posts

199 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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oldaudi said:
I think a slight error in the text. Wasn’t the m6 e63 a v10 not a v8? The 645 and 650 were v8 and the m6 was the same as the m5 v10?
That's an F06 M6, not an E63.

Electro1980

9,139 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Arsecati said:
I am far from a Beemer fan, but my god, HOW has BMW got it so wrong in their recent 'design offerings', when they were producing this M6 only up until 4 years ago? Such a fantastic looking car - the definition of understated class: I'd quite happily look at that all day - that is one handsome beast.
How many 6 series coupe’s were sold
How many X6 were sold
How many G32 GTs were sold

I can’t help by feel it’s not all BMWs fault.

S600BSB

8,534 posts

136 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Nearly pulled the trigger on a Golf R estate recently. Then discovered they can't have a towbar fitted. Shame.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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M6 all the way for me though that MAS is interesting.

heisthegaffer

4,321 posts

228 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Megane all day for me. Not that colour though.

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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As a second / fun car either the VXR or Maserati.
All rounder / load lugger the Golf
General all rounder either of the other three.

vanman1936

887 posts

249 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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A great selection and have considered all bar the Mas before (but have owned a GTS).

I would add an XKR to the list, quite special and easily had for sub £25k.

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

230 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Hmmm oddly I’m not drawn to any of them.

Having looked at the classifieds, I’d got for a decent manual base model 996/997.

Edited by The spinner of plates on Saturday 22 October 09:21

pb8g09

3,275 posts

99 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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If I could afford the Maserati running costs, I’d have that, looks incredible.

M6 as above, what a fantastic car BMW came up with there.

Failing those I think I’d be on the look out for a well spec’d BMW 435i or 440i if the budget could allow.

AnhBanhBao

305 posts

77 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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FK2 for me, although they are holding their money well. Will just have to keep circling for a while longer.

cerb4.5lee

45,041 posts

210 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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The only one I don't want out of that lot is the Golf. So a good list I reckon. The M6 seems like a lot of car for the money too I think.

Porscheandrangerover

104 posts

83 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Maserati.

minipower

966 posts

249 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Good list and nice selection. I’d add a 996 to that although my attempts to buy an early model were interesting! Certainly buy from or get a good specialist to inspect.

Edited by minipower on Saturday 22 October 11:20

udat

22 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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I had an NA VX220 that I bought new for 19k in 2003, and then in 2006 I traded that in for a new VX 220 Turbo that I paid 20k for. Both were in that lovely Europa Blue. Both were immense fun. I kinda wish I'd picked one up when they dipped below 10k not long ago, but I doubt I could extricate myself from one nowadays!

DodgyGeezer

49,146 posts

220 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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Out of these either the Masser or BM for me. For this budget though?

SLK55
C5 Corvette
SS Camaro
VXR/Monaro
SS Ute
XKR

And quite a few more besides

otolith

69,417 posts

234 months

Saturday 22nd October 2022
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F20CN16 said:
What do the Davanti tyres say about how that Civic has been treated scratchchin
Not much. Owned by someone who cuts corners on maintenance? Maybe. Owned by someone who just wanted the top of the range Civic to pootle to the shops with? Also possible. Traded in with four well-worn OEM tyres on it, and four ditchfinders fitted by dealer?

Would need to be seen in context.