RE: One-owner-from-new Citroen Saxo VTR for sale
RE: One-owner-from-new Citroen Saxo VTR for sale
Monday 24th October 2022

One-owner-from-new Citroen Saxo VTR for sale

Finding any decent Saxo VTR nowadays is a feat; discovering one with fewer than 10k miles is a miracle


It can be easy for some to dismiss something like the Citroen Saxo VTR as just another cheap and cheerful old car. But for those who grew up car crazed around the turn of the century, the VTR represented something far more important - it was freedom. And fairly fast freedom, at that. The hot hatch had suffered a fairly ignominious decline in the early 1990s, with insurance premiums effectively killing cars off. The result was slower, heavier, safer replacements that never caught the imagination quite like their predecessors. Think Mk3 Golf GTI, Ford Escort Mexico, Fiat Bravo HGT and so on. The mid-1990s wasn’t a great time for the hot hatch, really. Until the French revolution… 

The Peugeot 306 GTI-6 is the obvious pin-up of the era, though the Saxo VTS perhaps best represented the light, raw, fast pocket rockets of the previous decade. It had 120hp and weighed as much as a Kinder Egg, which guaranteed entertainment. Trouble is, it didn’t solve the insurance problem - group 14 out of 20 back then was high. Step in the VTR, with sporty looks, decent performance thanks to a 90hp, eight-valve version of the VTS 1.6, and a much more palatable group 7 insurance classification. Then there was the marketing masterstroke - two years free insurance on VTRs for two years. You had to be 21 to qualify, but even at that age it saved buyers potentially huge amounts of cash. VTRs flew out the door as a result.  

Then they started flying into other things as well, usually large and immovable objects, and the Saxo numbers declined almost as fast as they had shot up. Back then nobody saw Saxos has anything worth preserving, especially once the scrappage schemes came in, only for the industry to rapidly transform towards much more complex small cars. The simple pleasures of old are now highly prized again. 

We’re going to take a punt on Miss Goodwin, this Saxo’s first and only owner, not requiring the free insurance that so enticed young drivers into the VTR. If she did, then it wouldn’t have been much use - the little Citroen had only covered 2,000 miles by the time of its first MOT in January 2006. The miles have slowly crept up since then, a couple of hundred each year, meaning this Saxo was tested in February of this year with just 8,135 miles recorded. Next year it’ll be 20 years old, and more than likely won’t have reached 10,000 miles, which is almost unbelievable for something like the VTR. Most surely got to 8,000 miles before the first owner’s 22nd birthday.  

It’s even better than that mileage would imply, complete with dealer plates and surviving stickers, LloydsTSB motordirect mats, the original stereo, stacks of paperwork and next to no wear. Even before Saxos went out of production, they were known as sparse, no-frills transport, and it really is incredibly basic in there. Probably quite cramped, too. But it has been beautifully preserved, and what a trip back in time the VTR promises to be for those who remember them from so long ago.  

In this condition, it’d probably have to be kept for best now, which surely nobody ever imagined for a Saxo. But given they were never known as the safest little cars, the VTR - even with what look like new and plump Michelins - probably isn’t one to drive now like you did in the early 2000s. Not least because it’s more of an investment now as well - it's up for sale at £13,995, so it might be the most expensive Saxo ever. But, well, find another, before somebody else who also very fondly remembers them finds it. Opportunities like this come up pretty seldom, and nostalgia is a powerful influence, which is why cars like the Saxo and 106 command so much - and a contemporary like the Fiesta Zetec S remains affordable. Insurance ought to be a bit cheaper now, too...


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nuttywobbler

Original Poster:

349 posts

92 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Shame it's not the VTS.

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

53 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Looks perfect in every way and for once not overpriced .

HarveyMushmanDC2

32 posts

86 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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But as a late model it gets 98bhp, as compensation for the hideous facelift front lights.

cerb4.5lee

45,031 posts

210 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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nuttywobbler said:
Shame it's not the VTS.
That was my first thought too. I always remember the pedals being incredibly close together in the Saxo, and it drove me mad at the time!

HasToBeV8

163 posts

118 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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There must be a (semi) interesting back story, as to why someone would buy a warm hatch and then not use it. If it was just transport to the weekly shop a mile away and church on Sunday, a basic one would have sufficed for that need and it also seems to bear no car park scars of such use.

J4CKO

46,989 posts

230 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Not cheap but not ridiculous in the scheme of things.

Mr Miata

1,220 posts

80 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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When I was a lad , this was the car every young un had. Alternatives included Nova SR or GTE and Fiesta XR2’s

I remember Citroens official marketing for the Saxo VTR and VTS was that it could keep up or beat large company cars in a race !

It’s crazy to think the VTR had 90bhp when hot hatches today have 300bhp

Edited by Mr Miata on Monday 24th October 18:12

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

53 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Mr Miata said:
When I was a lad , this was the car every young un had. Alternatives included Nova SR or GTE and Fiesta XR2’s

I remember Citroens official marketing for the Saxo VTR and VTS was that it could keep up or beat large company cars in a race !

It’s crazy to think the VTR had 90bhp when hot hatches today have 300bhp

Edited by Mr Miata on Monday 24th October 18:12
Agree, but hot hatches today weigh 3x as much..

AL5026

489 posts

218 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I know I’m in an irritable mood this evening but f@@k me, get the basics right. The original owner was called Miss Godwin, not Miss Goodwin, it’s in the bloody advert twice for crying out loud! Lazy arse journalism.

FlukePlay

1,197 posts

175 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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14 grand for a 90 bhp Citroen that just scrapes 10 seconds to reach 60? This is definitely not for me.

rjfp1962

9,377 posts

103 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Prefer the VTS.... I had one a few years back biggrin

44 pics in the ad and not 1 of the engine compartment......!

Bobupndown

2,996 posts

73 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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cerb4.5lee said:
That was my first thought too. I always remember the pedals being incredibly close together in the Saxo, and it drove me mad at the time!
Yep my size 13's were a bit cramped!

Baileyk

323 posts

94 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Owned a blue 98 saxo VTS from 2007 until 2011. A great fun chuckable car. Had a bad rep, along with a bad build quality and zero star crash rating for the early models. Would I drop £14k for the nostalgia? Would I f@*k.

Retro.74

325 posts

53 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Mr Miata said:
When I was a lad , this was the car every young un had. Alternatives included Nova SR or GTE and Fiesta XR2’s

I remember Citroens official marketing for the Saxo VTR and VTS was that it could keep up or beat large company cars in a race !

It’s crazy to think the VTR had 90bhp when hot hatches today have 300bhp

Edited by Mr Miata on Monday 24th October 18:12
Think you may be confusing your eras, these things came at least 10 years after Novas and XR2s. An AX GT was from that time, but not the Saxo.

Nickp82

3,978 posts

123 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Retro.74 said:
Mr Miata said:
When I was a lad , this was the car every young un had. Alternatives included Nova SR or GTE and Fiesta XR2’s

I remember Citroens official marketing for the Saxo VTR and VTS was that it could keep up or beat large company cars in a race !

It’s crazy to think the VTR had 90bhp when hot hatches today have 300bhp

Edited by Mr Miata on Monday 24th October 18:12
Think you may be confusing your eras, these things came at least 10 years after Novas and XR2s. An AX GT was from that time, but not the Saxo.
If you were lucky enough to have your parents buy your car, you had a nice new Saxo with free insurance. If (like me) you bought your own car you had a Nova SR smile

s m

24,492 posts

233 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Retro.74 said:
Mr Miata said:
When I was a lad , this was the car every young un had. Alternatives included Nova SR or GTE and Fiesta XR2’s

I remember Citroens official marketing for the Saxo VTR and VTS was that it could keep up or beat large company cars in a race !

It’s crazy to think the VTR had 90bhp when hot hatches today have 300bhp

Edited by Mr Miata on Monday 24th October 18:12
Think you may be confusing your eras, these things came at least 10 years after Novas and XR2s. An AX GT was from that time, but not the Saxo.
Mmm yes, I was trying to remember that official marketing campaign too where it would beat large company cars???

cerb4.5lee

45,031 posts

210 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Bobupndown said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That was my first thought too. I always remember the pedals being incredibly close together in the Saxo, and it drove me mad at the time!
Yep my size 13's were a bit cramped!
I bet! I'm only a size 9 and I kept pressing the wrong pedals by mistake!

s m

24,492 posts

233 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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cerb4.5lee said:
Bobupndown said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That was my first thought too. I always remember the pedals being incredibly close together in the Saxo, and it drove me mad at the time!
Yep my size 13's were a bit cramped!
I bet! I'm only a size 9 and I kept pressing the wrong pedals by mistake!
Funnily enough I never remember having a problem with the pedals - size 11s and a VTS owner from new for 5 years

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

53 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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FlukePlay said:
14 grand for a 90 bhp Citroen that just scrapes 10 seconds to reach 60? This is definitely not for me.
That's not the point though. This car won't be used. It'll be stored away and in a month or so advertised for £20k+

Trevor555

5,541 posts

114 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Fond memories of these, I ran one for a few years before an unfortunate encounter with a badger one night.

40mpg driven carefully

I always preferred the previous headlight model, and it had a nicer velour interior.

Only thing I had to repair was a driveshaft in all the time I ran it.