RE: Ferrari targets Le Mans win with all-new prototype
RE: Ferrari targets Le Mans win with all-new prototype
Sunday 30th October 2022

Ferrari targets Le Mans win with all-new prototype

Maranello dreams big as it seeks to dominate a new era of top-tier endurance racing with V6-powered 499P


This is it. The first factory-backed Ferrari prototype to take on the gruelling 24 Hours of Le Mans in half a century, where it’ll fight for outright honours in what is set to be one of the most competitive grids in the World Endurance Championship in decades. It’s called the 499P and it might just be Ferrari’s first Le Mans winner since the 250LM in 1965.

A quick refresher on the top-tier endurance regs for next year, because they’re a tad complex. Ferrari will be joining Toyota, Peugeot and Glickenhaus in the LMH category. Once planned as a road car-based formula, LMH has now morphed into the flagship prototype category, where manufacturers are free to design their own chassis, engines and hybrid systems. LMDh, meanwhile, is a bit more restrictive. Manufacturers must base their cars on an LMP2-style chassis supplied by one of four independent constructors and use a stock hybrid system. It’s a cheaper solution, though, and has attracted Porsche, Lamborghini, BMW, Cadillac and Alpine.

Back to the 499P. It’s powered by a bespoke 3.0-litre, 120-degree hot vee-style twin-turbo V6, which alone produces 680hp – the maximum allowed under the LMH regs – sent exclusively to the rear wheels. Sound familiar? It’s the same engine architecture as the 296 GTB, though Ferrari says the block is the only carryover from the road car. All the internals are bespoke to the Le Mans racer, and unlike Ferrari’s GT racers the 499P’s engine is load-bearing, so it plays a doubly important role.

There’s clearly a lot of road relevance in a V6, but was a V12 ever on the cards? “In the very initial phase, we considered a V12, V8, V6. Everything, to be honest, because I do believe that before making any decision we need to understand what we are missing if you select in one direction. Selecting the V6 was not a compromise, but was definitely the right path to follow considering the way our range of road cars is moving, so it was natural to go there”, said Ferrari GT chief Ferdinando Cannizzo. “And also the fact that the V6 is small, light, very compact. This gave it the advantage of packaging, the weight of the car, centre of gravity, weight distribution and so on.”

At least a V12 was considered, then, even if it was taken off the table early on. Of course, the lighter V6 allows Ferrari to fit an incredibly complex hybrid system, which centres on a 272hp electric motor. Power is sent solely to the front wheels and is used to take some of the workload off the combustion engine above 75mph – again, that’s mandatory to prevent cars from rocketing out of bends. There’s a differential up front that tops up the F1-inspired 900-volt battery under braking, meaning the yet-to-be-announced drivers will have to get their heads around a brake-by-wire system. Thankfully, they’ve already done 7,500 miles of development work to get the hang of it and work out what all the buttons do on the space-age steering wheel.

Though it doesn’t look as whacky as the wingless Peugeot 9X8, there’s some radical aerodynamic work at play on the 499P. The rear, for instance, is split into three vertical sections - with a massive central tail fin that dwarfs anything else on the grid – and three horizonal sections, below which sits a gigantic diffuser. Predictably, Ferrari isn’t revealing specific aero numbers, but both LMH and LMDh have a set downforce-to-drag ratio of 4:1 to help level the playing field. On paper, at least.

This also permits manufacturers to add their signature look to the car, something severely lacking during the LMP1 era. On the 499P, Ferrari has transferred over the horizontal daytime running lights from the Roma, Daytona SP3 and, er, the Purosangue. But below the surface is an intricate labyrinth of aerodynamic tunnels. A peek through the exposed cut-outs in the wheel arches not only reveals the double wishbone pushrod suspension layout, but also the vast ducts that run either side of the cockpit. Whatever isn’t sucked into the radiators is spat out the back, reducing drag and rocketing the car up to the ridiculous speeds Le Mans' racers are known for.

If you’re an F1 fan, you’ll know that Ferrari is always looking for a cause for celebration so it can slap on a special livery. For the 499P, it’s chosen to race under the number 50, marking half a century since its final factory-backed prototype Le Mans effort, and 51, which it claims is the most successful number in its history. Well, that and the number one. No word on whether the yellow has any kind of significance, but it seems mega when paired with the orangey-red hue of Rosso Scuderia.

It looks the part, for sure, but we won’t find out if it’s a true contender until the 1,000 Miles of Sebring on March 17th. Ferrari will kick things off with two cars, run in collaboration with legendary GT outfit AF Corsa, but this new Hypercar era lends itself well to customer cars. While we won’t see any privateer-run 499Ps next year, Ferrari isn’t ruling out building a few more for its wealthy clientele. We'll have to wait and see how competitive the car is, but one thing seems certain: we’re likely on the brink of a Le Mans golden era.


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Corkys

Original Poster:

305 posts

231 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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That looks amazing. Exciting future for endurance racing.

Natpen79

93 posts

48 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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Stunning!

ajprice

33,512 posts

226 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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The rear wing fins are a bit batmobile, other than that, it's a nice job!

Don1

16,848 posts

238 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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That looks amazing. Really looking forward to next year....

Sandpit Steve

15,375 posts

104 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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The best thing to come out of the F1 cost cap!

abzmike

12,078 posts

136 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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Looks great, and nice almost retro paint and logo treatment.
But if it’s just a V6, why is there quite so much car behind the driver?

BVB

1,231 posts

183 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Wow, what a beaut. I will be attending my first Le Mans to see this thing race.

The Hypno-Toad

13,332 posts

235 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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What’s the phrase I’m looking for?

Oh, I know….

Holy. Mother. Of. God.

What a machine! With this, the Porsche, the BMW, the Peugeot and the rest, I’m going to have to get a new model cabinet just for next years race!

Plus I’m going, so there will be hopefully some souvenirs to put in too.

Silvanus

6,917 posts

53 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Now this is interesting, very interesting indeed scratchchin looks great and the engineering sounds good.

Your move Ford, especially as you are removing all of your interesting/loved cars for hybrids. Give us a hybrid to rally the blue oval brigade.

Bilkob

325 posts

165 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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I think we’re in for another ’Golden Age’ of sports car racing. BMW, Alpine, Ferrari, Toyota, Cadillac, Aston,Peugeot , Glickenhaus and of course Porsche have all announced LMDH hyper cars. Please update if I’ve missed anyone out…… It’s gonna be brilliant although I have a feeling that Porsche will be very very hard to beat, with Toyota also right up there and the others learning some very tough endurance racing lessons , especially in the first year.

Silvanus

6,917 posts

53 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Bilkob said:
I think we’re in for another ’Golden Age’ of sports car racing. BMW, Alpine, Ferrari, Toyota, Cadillac, Aston,Peugeot , Glickenhaus and of course Porsche have all announced LMDH hyper cars. Please update if I’ve missed anyone out…… It’s gonna be brilliant although I have a feeling that Porsche will be very very hard to beat, with Toyota also right up there and the others learning some very tough endurance racing lessons , especially in the first year.
Who else would we like scratchchin Aston, Ford, Alfa Romeo, Maserati and Lotus maybe?

ajprice

33,512 posts

226 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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abzmike said:
Looks great, and nice almost retro paint and logo treatment.
But if it’s just a V6, why is there quite so much car behind the driver?
The same reason F1 cars are over 5m long. Aero and hybrid parts.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Jesus.

Le Mans is going to be a must over the next few years.

Sley

19 posts

79 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Surely the new pinnacle of motorsport? Better looking just as advanced than the crappy, political entitled F1 lot

browngt3

1,433 posts

241 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Bilkob said:
I think we’re in for another ’Golden Age’ of sports car racing. BMW, Alpine, Ferrari, Toyota, Cadillac, Aston,Peugeot , Glickenhaus and of course Porsche have all announced LMDH hyper cars. Please update if I’ve missed anyone out…… It’s gonna be brilliant although I have a feeling that Porsche will be very very hard to beat, with Toyota also right up there and the others learning some very tough endurance racing lessons , especially in the first year.
Agreed, a brave man to bet against Porsche at Le Mans. However, I believe they will all be restricted by balance of performance rules making it harder to predict a winner.

Would love to see Ferrari win at Le Mans after 50 years. Maybe even a Ferrari vs Ford rematch for 2026!

DodgyGeezer

49,143 posts

220 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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based purely on looks I have to say I prefer the Caddy and Pug Le Mans cars - that said I suspect that the Fezza will be quite something to behold driven in anger

Silvanus

6,917 posts

53 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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browngt3 said:
Agreed, a brave man to bet against Porsche at Le Mans. However, I believe they will all be restricted by balance of performance rules making it harder to predict a winner.

Would love to see Ferrari win at Le Mans after 50 years. Maybe even a Ferrari vs Ford rematch for 2026!
Come on Ford, bring us something like this.


Bilkob

325 posts

165 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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It’ll be reliability and experience that wins the day, certainly at Le Mans. The 963 has already clocked up over 25,000 testing kms and recently rattled of a straight 36 hour test at the car breaker that is Sebring

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

53 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Bilkob said:
It’ll be reliability and experience that wins the day, certainly at Le Mans. The 963 has already clocked up over 25,000 testing kms and recently rattled of a straight 36 hour test at the car breaker that is Sebring
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This
Strange Ferrari chooses to use a very highly strung little 3.0 twin turbo when they already have a V12 n/a at 680hp (le mans power limit) which would be far less stressed ie cylinder pressures& heat ect for a 24hr endurance event..

ArnageWRC

2,342 posts

189 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Silvanus said:
Come on Ford, bring us something like this.

It will be interesting to see whether Ford are tempted; so far there haven't been any strong rumours......I won't hold my breath though.