RE: Volkwagen Golf GTI (Mk7) | PH Heroes
RE: Volkwagen Golf GTI (Mk7) | PH Heroes
Sunday 20th November 2022

Volkwagen Golf GTI (Mk7) | PH Heroes

Still not the best to drive. Just the best to be seen in


It is telling of course that the chief joy of getting back in the Mk7 Golf GTI is just sitting in it, gleefully operating the major controls. Believe it or not, the car was not exactly feted for its canny layout of dials and switchgear in its day; it was just widely acknowledged that Volkswagen had landed on an ergonomically pleasing way of doing things, which meant that people (i.e. road testers) didn’t object to spending untold hours behind the wheel. That its replacement has hoisted the Mk7’s cabin onto a pedestal probably says as much about its own weaknesses as it does its predecessor’s strengths - but the effect is undeniable. Someone with much better things to do might easily be tempted to sit twirling the heater knob in something like reverential amazement. 

Naturally, people found other faults with the Mk7 GTI at launch. Your correspondent recalls the car placing third in the class at a previous magazine title, and being a loud proponent of a running order that judged the Megane RS 265 and Ford Focus ST superior. The logic was unimpeachable: both were handily cheaper, and would do things on the limit that no chassis engineer would ever dream of instilling into Volkswagen’s money-maker. The Mk7 was commendable, no question about it - but it was also thought staid and absolutely guilty of falling too close to the tree. After all, the Mk6 had been worthy and generally likeable, too. Where was the glint in its eye? 

A decade later, it’s fair to say some of those allegations can now be set aside, or at the very least reclassified under the heading ‘unreasonable expectations’. As the later Clubsport S proved, Volkswagen could deliver a more spirited Golf if it so desired; the Mk7 GTI’s handling dynamic wasn’t chosen to set your hair on fire, it was meant to synchronise with people’s expectations - and in being safe and accurate and very amenable, it did its job. Much like the Range Rover or the BMW 3 Series or the Porsche 911, the model’s success hinged on it seeming, above all else, Golf-like. Improved, sure. It had a shiny new platform, for one thing. But gradual, thoughtful evolution has always been favoured in Volkswagen’s standard-bearer. 

The drawbacks of revolution are exemplified by the Mk8’s now infamous interior choices. Much like ripping out someone’s front room, you better be sure that what you’re replacing it with is of a superior standard. Sadly, its maker fell at both qualitative hurdles: the current model is not just less satisfying to interact with thanks to its clunky infotainment and weirdly haphazard switchgear, it is also less pleasing to look at. And the appeal of the famously classless GTI has always been one part function, two parts form. Accordingly, it’s now very easy to regard the previous model - especially in facelifted, Mk7.5 format - as peak Golf. 

In this regard, Volkswagen has chosen well when it came to the business of preserving a single car for posterity. Its heritage fleet is famous for including a version of every preceding GTI generation, and the ’19 plate, five-door Performance model - with the Dynamic Chassis Control, panoramic sunroof and 19-inch ‘Brescia’ wheels optioned - exemplifies the Mk7’s established strengths. We’re fairly sure the car is the first GTI retained with a DSG; sacrilege for some perhaps, but the automatic easily outsold the manual in period, and it speaks to the model’s reputation for ease of use. (Plus Volkswagen UK has taken the precaution of hanging onto its Clubsport S press car as well, so it arguably has all the bases covered.) 

For the record, the car still looks the part. Granted, it’s only been off sale for two years - and its successor has retained the same basic proportions - but, much like the cabin, there’s a cohesiveness to the Mk7’s design that suggests it might eventually be considered timeless in the same way the Mk1 and Mk2 (and possibly the Mk5) are. Given it was launched in the same year as the anointed heritage car, it is conceivable that Volkswagen might have chosen to preserve the run-out TCR variant, a predictably gutsier take on the GTI, and ritzier, too, thanks to a motorsport-inspired aero kit. But the run-out model is rare and already half-forgotten; better to keep the much bigger selling and characteristically subdued Performance grade. 

Initially, ‘Performance’ was there to distinguish the more powerful GTI from an entry-level model that Volkswagen eventually binned off in 2018. By then it had earned a modest upgrade to 230hp, while the Performance trim ended its life with 245hp (compared with 290hp in the TCR and 310hp in the earlier Clubsport S). Some regarded the TCR as a late-in-life attempt to return the Golf to the top of the hot hatch pecking order after more than one rival - Hyundai among them - deliberately sought to outgun the GTI on paper. But for anyone unconvinced by the car’s performance, Volkswagen could always point to the punchier and hugely popular all-wheel-drive R (also the glass ceiling for its sibling’s output) and proved itself resolutely attached to a mid-tier power figure. 

Driven today, it’s easy to buy into the logic. High-rev fireworks are no more the Golf’s bag than a tail-wagging chassis. The onus is on responsive, free-flowing progress, and the GTI delivers this in spades. Against most backdrops, the four-cylinder EA888 is less concerned with its peak output than the 273lb ft plateau which arrives at 1,600rpm and remains steadfastly available till 4,300rpm. Leave the transmission to its own devices, and virtually all the heavy lifting will be done in the mid-range. Chances are you won’t mind one bit: generally speaking, the DSG is too slick and speed too easily won to mount a counterargument to the car's obvious convenience. It’s like complaining about contactless payments. 

It helps that car around it is the automotive equivalent of Baby Bear’s porridge. Any firmer and it would risk seeming too hot for the casual user; any softer and it would almost certainly leave you cold. The ‘comfort’ setting on the adaptive dampers tends to feel just right on the vast majority of UK roads, while leaving just enough leeway in the body control for ‘sport’ to seem worthy of the description when trying a bit harder. The GTI’s steering is no more interactive than it seemed ten years ago; nevertheless, it is credibly weighted and reassuringly direct. This, together with a stability bias obviously inclined toward sure-footedness, makes the fast Golf a cinch to drive fast. 

Same as it ever was, right? Yet the Mk7 has it down to an unarguable fine art. Ultimately, its performance and handling are no less joined up than its styling or interior. The car exudes purposefulness and proficiency, and it is no coincidence that those aspects are front of mind when you’re behind the wheel. But Volkswagen’s masterstroke is to make all this buttoned-down predictability and convenience seem not just persuasive in a real-world usability sense, but aspirational too. So while the motoring press raved about the objective superiority of the Renault Megane RS or Honda Civic Type R, people bought a Mk7 GTI because, in its seriousness and implied maturity, it said all the right things about them.  

This feel-good approach has never made for the most exciting hot hatch to drive, yet as a Swiss Army knife solution to modern motoring - with all its status-affirming peccadilloes - the Golf stands apart not just as an icon in the segment it started, but also as a byword for level-headedness among all performance car purchases. Of course, the model has suffered duff generations before, and its reputation is merely dented by the Mk8’s tediousness rather than ruined by it. But while we wait for its maker to iterate its way out of trouble again, the current car’s immediate predecessor is still the GTI we’d recommend buying - and that makes the Mk7.5 version a bonafide PH Hero for way more than just its heater knob. 


SPECIFICATION | 2019 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GTI PERFORMANCE

Engine: 1984cc four-cylinder, turbocharged
Transmission: Seven-speed automatic, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 245@5,000-6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 273@1,600-4,300rpm
0-62mph: 6.2secs
Top speed: 155mph
Weight: 1445kg (unladen)
MPG: 37.7 (combined)
CO2: 143g/km
Price: £32,280 (as tested: £36,292) 

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yme402

Original Poster:

666 posts

132 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Had a MK7 GTI and reading this article and looking at those tartan seats and retro style steering wheel, make me want it back. Its was peak GTi, and we are now starting to head down the other side of the hill with the MK8. If anyone is considering a MK8 GTI, my advice would be to test drive a MK7 and then buy the best one you can lay your hands on and enjoy it. Thank me later, as it is already destined for classic status value wise.

Twinair

1,045 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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yme402 said:
Had a MK7 GTI and reading this article and looking at those tartan seats and retro style steering wheel, make me want it back. Its was peak GTi, and we are now starting to head down the other side of the hill with the MK8. If anyone is considering a MK8 GTI, my advice would be to test drive a MK7 and then buy the best one you can lay your hands on and enjoy it. Thank me later, as it is already destined for classic status value wise.
Have driven one as a ‘high end’ rental in DE. Enjoyed it!

I think the other thing to say is: KEEP IT LOCKED UP & out of the view / reach of the ‘crims’.

Despite not being the most expensive car out there, these are highly targeted for theft. A recent example of this near me. Sad but true.

g7jhp

7,034 posts

268 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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I'd argue a Mk7 will age better than a Mk7.5 with the standard dials being nicer than the digital dials. Infotainment ages a car quickly.

Golf GTI Mk7 is a great car to drive. The R is better but the GTI is a classless fits in anywhere car.


Aunty Pasty

786 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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I still have my Mk7 GTI from new (MY17). It was a runout model before they started with the 7.5. Still enjoy just being in the car and throwing it around. The only thing is the infotainment system and Sat-nav is pretty ropey by todays standards but a car is much more than just how nice the screen is on your dashboard.

bigaoi

191 posts

187 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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What are the differences between Mk.7 and Mk.7.5? Is the latter significantly better?

roadie

880 posts

292 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Good cars for sure, but surely the Mk7 is too common to be cult like the RS Megane?

johnnyBv8

2,482 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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F20CN16 said:
bigaoi said:
What are the differences between Mk.7 and Mk.7.5? Is the latter significantly better?
Mk7 owners: “no”
Mk7.5 owners: “yes”

Mk8 owners who might’ve had both: didn’t hear the question as they can’t work out how to turn the volume up on their touchscreen
There are mainly minor tweaks - the most visible is the digital instrument cluster, and externally different standard wheels and bumper. I’ve had both as my daily runaround car and don’t think there’s much between them. I much preferred the one with leather interior to the one with the tartan though.

The subtitle to the article is a bit odd. I don’t think it’s the one “to be seen in” because it’s so subtle. There might be others that are more entertaining in the driving stakes but it’s still very good and just a great all rounder.


Edited by johnnyBv8 on Sunday 20th November 19:34

Kawasicki

14,404 posts

265 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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For car journalists and 1% of enthusiastic drivers a mobile rear is fun, for everyone else it is a moment of abject terror.

Wab1974uk

1,417 posts

57 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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The MK7 Golf GTI was the second Golf I ever owned. Also the shortest I've owned a car.

The manual gearbox sometimes struggled to cleanly select 5th gear. Which then started one of the worst dealership experiences of my life.

The fake engine noise in `Dynamic mode` was so bad I never selected it. Even in individual it couldn't be turned off if you wanted engine in `sport`.

The crash detection `safety` system is anything but. Applying the brakes when on a round about if a car pulled out (but you knew was fine) would upset the cars balance. Not what you want in spirited driving.

Yet the MK5 Golf I had some years before was faultless.

Tom4398cc

569 posts

64 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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I ignored the Golf GTi as an option for years because of press articles and opinions that trotted out things like inert steering and leaden chassis.

However, back in the Summer I sold my Mini GP2 and replaced it with a 2015 3 door Mk7 GTi. 8,500 miles later - including a run to the Alps - I’m very happy with the Golf. Yes, it loses something to the Mini in handling, but as an everyday car that can cope with speed bumps, long motorway schleps, phone calls etc, it is still fun and engaging on an interesting road. The fact it is a manual is a big plus in my book. If people want to go down the DSG route, they may as well get the higher power of the R.

As I drive round and see so many autos and electric cars on the roads, I’m glad I’m maxing my time in an engaging petrol manual whilst it’s still possible.


Oh and before I get shouted out - yes, I’m well aware that the wheels are in shocking condition and plumb new depths of scruffiness. Watch this space……..

p4cks

7,522 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Had a launch GTI back in the day and loved it. Now back in a mk7, albeit a GTE

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

53 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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F20CN16 said:
That sub-heading hehe

“Still not the best to drive. Just the best to be seen in”
'the best to be seen in'...A VAG product...laugh

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

179 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Kawasicki said:
For car journalists and 1% of enthusiastic drivers a mobile rear is fun, for everyone else it is a moment of abject terror.
As someone who falls into that 1% and enjoys it (although only tend to push cars to do it on track), I still find it terrifying hehe

siovey

1,970 posts

168 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Loved mine when I had it. Sadly, I will probably never get another new GTI as I doubt they'll ever be within my £200 pm budget again! laugh

Hippea

3,953 posts

99 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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What a strange sub title

TheMilkyBarKid

882 posts

59 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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We’ve had our MK 7 GTi for 7 years, the longest by some distance I’ve ever owned a car. In 70,000 miles it’s needed nothing aside from tyres, brake pads/discs and routine servicing, at 9 years old it’s even still on its original battery.

I agree the title referencing being seen in one as being ‘the best’ is a bit bizarre, would I look in any way less good getting out of a Megane RS? I don’t know, and I don’t really care! Perhaps if being seen in a car is important you might want to re-evaluate your life priorities?!

Either way for me the MK 7 is good enough on the right road to entertain, and does all the boring stuff you need from a daily driver so well when you just want to get home after a long day at work, as it’s good on fuel, comfortable, quiet on the motorway, practical, and just punchy enough to put a smile on my face when the traffic clears. As they’ve ruined the interior in the MK8 in my view with the dreadful touch screen sliders (unlit, which makes them so user friendly in the dark.. rolleyes ) I honestly don’t know what to replace it with apart from another newer one.

tim-jxv5n

240 posts

126 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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I had a 2015 dsg for about a year, had loads of stuff on it from mountune as the lad I bought it from worked there. Was pushing around 320bhp I think. Sold it as it wasnt getting used, needed the money for something else.

Anyway...I've had dsg in loads of other cars but all diesels and it suited them fine. But in the golf everytime I broke traction (and it happened a lot) the gearbox would just change up. Annoying. If I were to get another fairly high powered front wheel drive car then it would have to be a manual

Water Fairy

6,641 posts

185 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Best to be seen in for who exactly? Only if your neighbours are curtain twitchers and that bothers you.

Rostyle

61 posts

105 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Well no points for stating the bleeding obvious . RIght from the mk1 the Golf Gti has always been the slightly sterile and emotionless hot hatch that was jack of all trades, there have always been faster or more exciting options . Whats sad is I've been reading variations of this very article since the early 80s .... I've always rather have had for example the Abarth 130tc , GTE16v, 1.9Gti , Clio Williams , Type R , Megan RS etc etc , less polished but actually fun . I can see the other side of the argument but after 40 years I've made my mind up !

_ppan

649 posts

99 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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"Just the best to be seen in"

Excuse me? Apart from that it shouldn't matter what others think: it's bland to look at, driven by mothers to do groceries and by chavs that let it turn into a world war 2 machine gun nest every time they shift up or down.

Not that it should be a reason not to buy it if you like it, but if it was this would NOT be the car.