RE: Datsun 260Z | Spotted
RE: Datsun 260Z | Spotted
Thursday 15th December 2022

Datsun 260Z | Spotted

Beauty never comes cheap, right...


Wowzers! I know the old “How much?” routine accounts for at least 98 per cent of the comments on PH, but even I am joining in this time. This Datsun 260Z is nearly £100,000, and the advert says it should be 50 per cent more, but it’s in the sale. There’s only one word for that, and I am afraid it’s still wowzers! But the 'special' price doesn’t preclude the car from being a bit special, though, and the Datsun 260Z is a special thing, isn’t it? It was a car designed to inject the Datsun brand with a bit of excitement, and it did.

If you’re a new manufacturer, which as far as the western world was concerned Datsun was back in the '60s, you’ll always sell some cars if you’re punting out basic, cheap, reliable fodder to punters worn down by the unreliability of stuff built by the complacent, old-guard brands. And Datsun was selling cars in the US before the Z came along. It had marketed the Datsun 1000 and 1200, but had only sold 1,500 examples in a decade. Newer, more exciting cars came along, but what Datsun really needed was a halo model to grab some headlines. It needed a hairy-chested sports car.

This being America, to be a successful sports car that appealed to the capacity-mad yanks, it had to have an engine that was bigger than the average American’s lawnmower. That’s what the 240Z got: a 2.4-litre straight six. This wasn’t going to tempt the diehard V8 mob out of their Mustangs, but there was plenty of evidence from Porsche, Triumph, Jaguar et al that you could still sell big with a six.

This was no techno marvel, though. Along with big engines the other thing Americans like is one-plus-one-equals-two mechanicals. Simplicity, in other words. It’s all very well having novelties like mechanical fuel injection to boast about in the sales brochure, and it would be fine if you’re in a conurbation with main dealers around every corner who know how to set it up.

If you’re in the sticks it's a different matter. The sticks in the US means you could be many, many miles from a franchise dealer, so you’ll need to rely on Old Billybob’s Auto Shop for your everyday maintenance. And if Old Billybob opens the hood to see a load of complicated pipes and injectors he might have a heart attack, or, worse still, inform the village elders, and they’ll turn up and burn you at the stake.

Triumph found this with its TR6. The dealers in America said no to its blasphemous Lucas mechanical fuel injection, so all TR6s sold there ran with good-ol’ carbs. The same was true of the 240Z, which used a couple of Hitachi carbs, which looked suspiciously like SUs, to spit fuel into its pretty meat-and-two-veg alloy head mounted to an iron block. It worked, too. With its handsome, European styling, which had echoes of the exotic Ferrari Daytona, and independent MacPherson strut suspension all round, the 240Z was a solid hit. It was launched in 1969, and by 1972 Datsun was punting out around 50,000 per year in the US.

With the Datsun name now firmly established in American buyers' minds, and not just for non-nonsense reliability but also desirability, the company was on the road to success. Federal emissions regulations were strangling performance, though, so Datsun increased the capacity of the engine to 2.6-litres, creating the 260Z in 1974. Even so, with its pathetically low compression ratio the power had dropped from the original 240Z’s 151hp to around 140hp. Outside the US, though, things were a little brighter. Without such draconian emissions regulations to meet, the 260Z added a modest power increase to 162hp, while largely retaining the handsome exterior style and classic sports car interior of the original. The 280 ZX was still a way off, yet. 

Whatever you say about the price of this one - and I don’t doubt you’ll say plenty - it does look absolutely stunning. The colour is described as Grand Prix Red, but it looks like burnt orange to me and that’s very of the time, too. And the paintwork appears to be pristine, along with the gleaming, four-spoke alloy wheels. It has a Webasto roof as well, which takes the fight to the TR6 by adding an element of open-air thrills to car that was only ever a hard-top coupé. It’s also reported to have covered just 34k, comes with its original tool roll and jack, plus an extensive history file with its sales invoice, handbooks, sales literature and 34 tax discs. So it's worth a ‘wowzers' in other respects, too - not just for the price.


Specification | Datsun 260Z

Engine: 2,565cc, straight six, naturally aspirated
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 162 @ 5,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 157lb ft @ 4,400rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: N/A
Recorded mileage: 34,000
Year registered: 1978
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £97,500

See the full ad here

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S600BSB

Original Poster:

8,505 posts

136 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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How much?

Speed 3

5,280 posts

149 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Not just crap old Fords then

GreatScott2016

2,563 posts

118 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Speed 3 said:
Not just crap old Fords then
That might just rattle some cages smile always liked these though.

yme402

666 posts

132 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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If I had the money and space, I would.

GTEYE

2,503 posts

240 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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It’s a lovely car, of that there’s no doubt.

I guess the motto is “Go find another”- they must be pretty rare in this condition, especially in the U.K.

Scoobysaurus

363 posts

127 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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These are a fine looking Japanese classic, it’s a definite thumbs up from me

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Always wanted a 240Z / 260Z back in the day never had enough money to buy one so ended up with a 3.0 litre Capri as the Z’s were generally a lot more.
Makes me laugh when ads mention original tool roll and jack as if the collector who is going to buy this is highly unlikely to take it out let alone knows how to use a jack and tools. biggrin

daqinggregg

5,335 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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The car Jaguar should have built, it only took them another 40 years!

leef44

5,203 posts

183 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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A lovely car with classic lines in pristine condition.

This would definitely be in my collection if I was a millionaire car collector. Or would I hold out for a 280Z if one came along...

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

71 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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I like these and they do look good as a restomod

No idea how the seller justifies the price. In my mind £20-£50k depending on condition etc. £100k seems like they’ve been sniffing the easy start again.

cerb4.5lee

44,987 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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I've always loved the shape of these, but I'm not keen on the price of this one though. I bet these felt amazing to drive when they were new, and they have a very nice success story about them.

paulwirral

3,828 posts

165 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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I remember selling one that wasn’t actually to bad condition for £800 , one of the easiest cars ever to work on , pulled the engine out in less than half an hour .

MCBrowncoat

1,780 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Hmm. And the ad says it should be £150k! I'd rather import a straight one and get it to my liking. I wouldn't want to touch this after paying that for it.


Dombilano

1,461 posts

85 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Much rather have the Vanquish the dealer has in stock, for similar money

JurassicGTS

2,220 posts

225 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Win Percy's Samurai went for much less a couple of weeks ago on CC.

Demonix

836 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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That is a gorgeous looking Z, given the condition and rarity price is something a well heeled collector would accept. Rest of us will have to make do with the 350/370Z as they are actually affordable.

Royd72

35 posts

122 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Well if that is £100,000 I would like £200,000 for my fully sorted ground up MZR Roadsports restoration

The 260Z isn’t half as desirable as the 240Z, the price is crazy

My car is twice of that and I would be amazed if it fetched £70/80k even with a cameo feature in FF9

God loves a trier, look forward to seeing that for sale forever

Edited by Royd72 on Thursday 15th December 08:42


Edited by Royd72 on Thursday 15th December 08:42

stuartmmcfc

8,775 posts

222 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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My dad had a 2+2 back in 77.
It was very memorable in many ways, both good and bad.
I’ll never forget the bucket seats in the back, the self seeking radio with a moving “bar” and how fast it was.
The bad though. It was always covered in greenfly, the time I shot a hole through the folded sunroof with a .22 rifle and how it would never start. Unfortunately, for him, the dealer from Coppice garage in Nottingham, where’d bought it, lived behind us, and my Dad would regularly knock him up at 6.00am to complain.
Cool car though.

Just seen this
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1424214
If I had the spare money and space I’d definitely be interested and much more realistically priced imho

Edited by stuartmmcfc on Thursday 15th December 08:49

John-zp3fm

2 posts

57 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Sounds like another last gasp at trying to obtain a ridiculous price for a motor when the market is definitely starting to cool (except the properly rare stuff) despite it being in the “sale” 🤣🤣!! Nice motor though …but think what else you can get for the money!

Augustus Windsock

3,804 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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stuartmmcfc said:

My dad had a 2+2 back in 77.
It was very memorable in many ways, both good and bad.
I’ll never forget the bucket seats in the back, the self seeking radio with a moving “bar” and how fast it was.
The bad though. It was always covered in greenfly, the time I shot a hole through the folded sunroof with a .22 rifle and how it would never start. Unfortunately, for him, the dealer from Coppice garage in Nottingham, where’d bought it, lived behind us, and my Dad would regularly knock him up at 6.00am to complain.
Cool car though.
Coppice Garage, was that in Mapperley?
If so I remember going past many times on the way to my aunts house in Carlton
I also used to cruise past and call in at Hooleys, the Ford RS dealers (Loughborough Road?) and saw the cars that shaped my early Firs RS ownership
Always fancied a 240Z, something so right about them, but the price of this; whatever the dealer is taking, they really need to halve the disease!