RE: Throwback 911 3.2 Carrera Cabriolet for sale
RE: Throwback 911 3.2 Carrera Cabriolet for sale
Wednesday 21st December 2022

Throwback 911 3.2 Carrera Cabriolet for sale

Suddenly keen to relive a guilt-free decade? Here's the perfect time machine...


A Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet, and it’s red. Crikey, it’s so ‘80s that it’s almost comical. This one’s Guards Red, with red wheels, red carpets, red piping and contrasting black hood and black seats. Nothing that special there; by 1989, when this car rolled off the line at Zuffenhausen, I dare say they’d made a few examples barely indistinguishable from this one. But I dare say you’d struggle to find many in such splendid condition as the one we have here. Three decades may have slipped by in a blur of ever-more miniature mobile phones, but the years have been kind to this example.

Speaking of mobiles, I can’t help but look at this car and see a pinstriped, red-braced yuppie racing through the city, hood down and rah-rahing loudly into a ‘brick’, perhaps ordering a table at some swanky wine bar with a bottle of Bolly on ice. And if that all seems a bit obvious, just look again at the car. It’s a cliché on wheels. The 1980s was a giant shoulder pad of ‘F-You’ excess bridging the ‘70s and '90s, and a red 911 was the keystone in the middle.

That said, it’s adorable. Sure, the period it came from may have been crass and well short of humanity’s highpoint, but that wasn’t the car’s fault. We’ve since learned to love the Ford Capri all over again, and a 3.2 Carrera is rightly even more sought after these days. Between 1984 and 1989 Porsche sold more than 70,000 examples of the 3.2 Carrera, reputedly making it the most successful 911 in history by sales volume. That was a mix of buyers’ enduring love for Porsche’s classic but also just finding itself in the right place at the right time: to piggyback on the huge economic boom in Porsche’s key markets.

It very nearly didn’t happen, of course. In 1979 the company had famously made a plan to kill off its most iconic model and replace it with the 928 - yet the 911 refused to die. The story goes that Peter Schutz, who was Porsche CEO from 1981 to 1989, walked into the office of Dr Helmuth Bott, who was the board member for engineering and development, and noticed a chart on his wall. It represented the product development of the company’s three principal models. The 944 and 928 lines stretched well into the future, but the 911 stopped dead in 1981. So Schutz picked up a black marker, walked over to the wall and extended the 911’s line clean off the chart. Apparently, this raised a cheer from Bott.

It was a risky move, when you bear in mind that the 911 was pensionable. But the Cabriolet was introduced in 1982 and sold very well, despite costing a good chunk more than the coupe, and 911 sales in general remained very strong. It was when the 3.2 Carrera was launched that things went completely off the scale, and in doing so sealed the 911’s future and, some would say, the company’s, too.

All this is strange when you think about it. There was nothing retrospective about the ‘80s; it was all about the future and new technology. Yet here, centre stage, was a little, air-cooled Porsche from the ‘60s with pedals sprouting from the floor. The 3.2 Carrera had been updated, of course. Porsche claimed the engine was 80 per cent new and included Bosch electronic injection and ignition, and eventually the old 915 gearbox was replaced by the extra precision of the G50, but the classic styling and haphazard interior remained. I’m not sure what drew people to the 911? They could quite easily wound up parked next to a Ferrari Testarossa looking every bit the ‘60s throwback. Still, I'm very pleased that people were.

The world would be a sadder place without a car that continues as an outlier. It’s no longer air-cooled, the pedals may be top-hinged, and the interior doesn’t look like the product of an explosion in a switch factory, but its easily identifiable shape and funny engine configuration remain. And for a period-perfect, prime example of what kept the line going, look no further than the car you see here.


See the original advert here

 

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Numeric

Original Poster:

1,499 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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The stuff of dreams when I was a car mad teenager in the '80s, these now seem a simpler car from what seemed to me to be simpler times, though its the rose tinted spectacles of nostalgia adding a filter to that I'm sure.

What a wonderful example, I would have this in a heart beat if I had the money, which actually seems pretty reasonable to me.

Come on Santa, be kind!

athomp04

177 posts

198 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Absolutely lovely I would buy it in a heartbeat if I had the funds

wistec1

802 posts

71 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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I've never been a Porsche fan and this model of 911 is one of the few that I have driven. Back in the day it left a very positive impression but my pay cheque wouldn't even buy the mandatory filofax to go with it let alone the car. Former & Wannabe Yupppeees that missed out will be drawn to this fanny magnet. Not for me now tho I've got my milf and lotus sunbeam.

mersontheperson

732 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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“Sure, the period it came from may have been crass and well short of humanity’s highpoint”

Struggling to understand this point. What was wrong with the 80’s compared to the 70’s or 90’s or even 00’s ?

The 70’s (I remember them just) are almost universally recognized by people old enough to remember them as probably the worst decade since world war 2.
The 80’s brought a huge amount of prosperity to the UK and wider world, and was largely quite a peaceful decade that I remember fondly. This weird demonizing of yuppies , basically young people who wanted to work and spend money, and turning them in to ‘loadsa money’ or ‘Dom Jolly’ meme is a bit lame

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Edited by mersontheperson on Wednesday 21st December 08:06

Augustus Windsock

3,804 posts

185 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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A lovely thing but the rear spoiler should be reserved only for the wide-body (or SSE?) versions. The spoiler makes it a little unbalanced for me.
Otherwise it’s a yes and I would, just need to start frantically scrabbling down the back of the settee now…

GreatScott2016

2,563 posts

118 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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I thought the yuppie analogy was spot on, made me smile. Never warmed to the cabrio but tidy nonetheless.

mooseracer

2,805 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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I'd rather spend 70k on the Mugen Civic.

Looks lovely for what it is, but what it is does nothing to me.

mcelliott

10,545 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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I have the targa, owned it for 20yrs lovely things, no spoiler so the car looks super clean, oh and the 915 gear box is a thing of joy.

Gus265

271 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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This is my one - it’s top fun - kids in the back summer hilarity. Starts on the button and looks great. Still pretty quick too. Nice to see it get some airtime and positive responses.



Demonix

836 posts

242 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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80's 911 Cab - inelegant roof looks like a raincover for a pram, hard top coupe in that colour and condition and I would definitely take a punt!

CSK1

1,824 posts

154 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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My dad actually ordered a 911SC cabriolet in 1983 and eventually got a 3.2 Carrera cab delivered in 1984.
Guards red too (I think the colour was called « Indish Röt ». High spec with full leather, wider Fuchs wheels, etc.,…
It looked lovely but suffered from body flex.
I remember sitting in the back as a teenager and putting my finger in the gap behind the door near the lock and each time it got pinched going through a bend at speed.
My dad eventually sold it. In 1990, he bought a 964 cab which was way more rigid.
I’d take a coupe 3.2 Carrera which is better sorted.

Robertb

3,898 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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mersontheperson said:
“Sure, the period it came from may have been crass and well short of humanity’s highpoint”

Struggling to understand this point. What was wrong with the 80’s compared to the 70’s or 90’s or even 00’s ?

The 70’s (I remember them just) are almost universally recognized by people old enough to remember them as probably the worst decade since world war 2.
The 80’s brought a huge amount of prosperity to the UK and wider world, and was largely quite a peaceful decade that I remember fondly. This weird demonizing of yuppies , basically young people who wanted to work and spend money, and turning them in to ‘loadsa money’ or ‘Dom Jolly’ meme is a bit lame

Edited by mersontheperson on Wednesday 21st December 07:51


Edited by mersontheperson on Wednesday 21st December 08:06
Quite. At the risk of taking the comment too seriously there are plenty of worse eras, 1939-45 obvs. The 2020's are not going terribly well so far.

Rumblestripe

4,100 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Robertb said:
mersontheperson said:
“Sure, the period it came from may have been crass and well short of humanity’s highpoint”

Struggling to understand this point. What was wrong with the 80’s compared to the 70’s or 90’s or even 00’s ?

The 70’s (I remember them just) are almost universally recognized by people old enough to remember them as probably the worst decade since world war 2.
The 80’s brought a huge amount of prosperity to the UK and wider world, and was largely quite a peaceful decade that I remember fondly. This weird demonizing of yuppies , basically young people who wanted to work and spend money, and turning them in to ‘loadsa money’ or ‘Dom Jolly’ meme is a bit lame

Edited by mersontheperson on Wednesday 21st December 07:51


Edited by mersontheperson on Wednesday 21st December 08:06
Quite. At the risk of taking the comment too seriously there are plenty of worse eras, 1939-45 obvs. The 2020's are not going terribly well so far.
Without getting too political on a thread about a car I love and buy in a twinkle. Listen to "Ghost Town" by The Specials (RIP Terry Hall) and read about what was done to UK industrial cities outside the SE and London in the 80s, it's why Thatcher is hated to this day.

The car however is wonderful and from before the 911 got too big/fat, has to be driven with respect but so characterful.

Darnoc95

517 posts

60 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Agree with others lose the Tea Tray spolier on the rear & not sure about the Red Fuch's ! Otherwise a great looking example. Always aspired to one of these & the later 964 as a kid though after driving one realised the coupe was the better car. Still in later life id be now happy to cruise round in this for the summer listening to Dire Straights etcmusic. Bring back the 80's!

soad

34,703 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Prefer the later generation cars (964/993) myself.

Pip1968

1,400 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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mersontheperson said:
“Sure, the period it came from may have been crass and well short of humanity’s highpoint”

Struggling to understand this point. What was wrong with the 80’s compared to the 70’s or 90’s or even 00’s ?

The 70’s (I remember them just) are almost universally recognized by people old enough to remember them as probably the worst decade since world war 2.
The 80’s brought a huge amount of prosperity to the UK and wider world, [b]and was largely quite a peaceful/b] decade that I remember fondly.
I think you are forgetting Las Malvinas - Falklands war 1982 and Afghanistan was raging with the Russians giving it a go. Also the Iranian embassy seige.....NI......

Anyway a lovely classic car although not a fan of red.

Pip

skylarking808

1,242 posts

116 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Just reminds me of Tory boys and cocaine, especially in cabriolet form.




Mark-C

7,696 posts

235 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Lovely - so much better than all the restomodded stuff ... IMHO anyway ...

vixen1700

29,225 posts

300 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Working in the West End at the age of 18 my (horrible) boss asked me to park his brand new Guards Red 3.2 Carrera in the Great Portland Street NCP.

Turned the key and Tina Turner came out of the stereo. smile

The clutch seemed amazingly heavy and I was off. It felt the nuts. hehe

Took it round Holborn and it was was both exciting and terrifying, managing third a couple of times then scaring myself with the odd throttle dab.

Got it parked and got a "Did ya scratch it then?" from the boss.

He kept it for a couple of years then bought a V8 Aston, but I didn't get a go in that. frown

/My 911 story.

sean ie3

3,606 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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I'd take this and max out the red with a red leather retrim for the seats convertible top and floor mats. In a similar unreality I'll also have the Gemini Blue Targa 2.7 @£189.000.