why do we/don't we...
why do we/don't we...
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DodgyGeezer

Original Poster:

49,087 posts

220 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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probably all been done before but...

why don't we have a 'hold' function on our petrol nozzles like they do in the US? To be fair the piece is there but the 'lock' has been removed.

Regbuser

7,016 posts

65 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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It was a clause in the now superseded petroleum regulations that a fuel dispenser must remain under control at all times it was in use.

SteveR1979

601 posts

171 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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I wedge it on with the fuel cap.

GranpaB

20,094 posts

66 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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They used to have them years ago but i think health and safety was born so they were removed.

sherman

15,301 posts

245 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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Because if you cant fill an average car by holding a nozzle trigger for a few minutes should you really be driving?

Truck diesel nozzles still have the stays.

SteveR1979

601 posts

171 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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sherman said:
Because if you cant fill an average car by holding a nozzle trigger for a few minutes should you really be driving?
Yes.


abzmike

12,069 posts

136 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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American nozzles also have a sprung/rubber collar that closes in on the filler, presumably to limit spillage if there is an overflow.

kambites

71,587 posts

251 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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Doesn't the US also have a curiously low limit on flow-rate? It always seems to take aaaages to fill up cars there compared to in Europe.

Mogul

3,066 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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The Swiss have them

swisstoni

24,137 posts

309 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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I just about remember them in this country.
If I recall, I didn’t use them because I didn’t trust the pump to stop when the tank was full.

The removal of the lock also prevents any bad person pulling a nozzle, locking it on and running away while the forecourt fills up with burny stuff.

Taita

8,008 posts

233 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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swisstoni said:
I just about remember them in this country.
If I recall, I didn’t use them because I didn’t trust the pump to stop when the tank was full.

The removal of the lock also prevents any bad person pulling a nozzle, locking it on and running away while the forecourt fills up with burny stuff.
Unless they have 3 inches of tape or a rigid pin to stick through the hole, or the fuel cap wedged in it......

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

97 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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swisstoni said:
I just about remember them in this country.
If I recall, I didn’t use them because I didn’t trust the pump to stop when the tank was full.

The removal of the lock also prevents any bad person pulling a nozzle, locking it on and running away while the forecourt fills up with burny stuff.
A so minded individual has probably heard of cable ties.

I've had a pump not autostop on me once in a few decades; I guess a lot of people act so stupid it's probably better this way than having them run around shrieking rather than just click it off. After being left unmonitored while they ibook their facephones. America has more drive offs with the nozzle still attached too I'll bet anything.

Snow and Rocks

3,453 posts

57 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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SteveR1979 said:
I wedge it on with the fuel cap.
This, works perfectly and lets me mess around emptying any rubbish, clean the mirrors and lights etc.

MrsMiggins

2,867 posts

265 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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If it's cold I'll use the fuel cap to wedge it but I stay away from the van de graaff generator...



Skip to 50 secs for the fun bit.

500TORQUES

13,781 posts

45 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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abzmike said:
American nozzles also have a sprung/rubber collar that closes in on the filler, presumably to limit spillage if there is an overflow.
Vapour recovery system, used to stop vapours going into the atmosphere by sealing off the filler neck during a refill and returning vapour to the fuel station tank instead.

Pica-Pica

16,669 posts

114 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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500TORQUES said:
abzmike said:
American nozzles also have a sprung/rubber collar that closes in on the filler, presumably to limit spillage if there is an overflow.
Vapour recovery system, used to stop vapours going into the atmosphere by sealing off the filler neck during a refill and returning vapour to the fuel station tank instead.
Yup. That’s the reason.
Probably started in California by CARB (California Air Resources Board), put into place when Ronald Reagan was Governor there.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Sunday 1st January 18:02

Pica-Pica

16,669 posts

114 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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MrsMiggins said:
If it's cold I'll use the fuel cap to wedge it but I stay away from the van de graaff generator...



Skip to 50 secs for the fun bit.
She seemed pretty cool-headed about that!

toasty

8,414 posts

250 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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I’ve got a blunt darning needle on my keys for precisely this. It took over 15 years for some smart Alec pump attendant to stop the flow until I gripped the pump.

paul.deitch

2,317 posts

287 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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toasty said:
I’ve got a blunt darning needle on my keys for precisely this. It took over 15 years for some smart Alec pump attendant to stop the flow until I gripped the pump.
The nozzles are all supplied by ZVA with lock pins which are removed when put on the pump for the UK and some other countries. Nanny state UK.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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abzmike said:
American nozzles also have a sprung/rubber collar that closes in on the filler, presumably to limit spillage if there is an overflow.
They all do