RE: Mitsubishi GTO MR | Spotted
RE: Mitsubishi GTO MR | Spotted
Wednesday 11th January 2023

Mitsubishi GTO MR | Spotted

Active suspension, aero and rear-wheel steering all featured on the original GTO. This car ditches it all


The Mitsubishi GTO (or 3000GT, depending on where you are) is rarely spoken about in the same breath as its 1990s contemporaries. The Honda NSX is lauded as one of the era’s all-time great supercars, while the likes of the Nissan GT-R, Toyota Supra and Mazda RX-7 sent the tuning scene into overdrive. The GTO always seemed to play second fiddle to the Lancer Evolution, thanks in part to the fierce Evo vs Impreza rivalry born on the world rally stage.

That’s a pity, really, because it’s many of the technologies featured on the GTO would take years to transfer over to the supercar world. Adaptive dampers, adjustable exhaust valves, rear-wheel steering and active aerodynamics at the front and rear are all items that’d been seen on other production cars, but never before had they all been bought together in one package – especially in the name of performance. All are commonplace in today’s crop of supercars, but this level of computing power back in the 1990s was astonishing.

Not all GTOs and 3000GTs are the same, though. This being a 90s Japanese performance car means there are an infinite number of variants, with sportier models getting turbocharged engines and wild styling, while the gadgetry was phased out as the decade progressed to shrink production costs. There was, however, one model that did away with all the electronics to shift the focus back towards the driver. The MR is about as close to a lightweight model in the GTO lineup gets, with the removal of the active suspension, aero, ABS and four-wheel steering shedding around 40kg over the all-singing and dancing VR4. The result is a car that looks just like any other GTO, only it now with a completely different character behind the wheel.

With the gadgetry out of the way, the engine dominates the experience. The MR gets the most potent motor of the range, a 3.0-litre twin-turbocharged V6, developing an ‘official’ 280hp – in line with gentleman’s agreement between Japanese carmakers in the 1990s. However, this was considered a conservative figure as the hefty VR4 could muster a 0-60mph time of 5.4 seconds. Besides, most engines built during this era were reliably capable of considerably higher outputs if the temptation to tune strikes.

That’s all well and good, but what’s the point of buying a GTO if it doesn’t have all the tricks? First of all, the regular GTO’s gadgetry is arguably the least reliable aspect of the car, with some owners choosing to run their cars passively when the systems fail. Secondly, while there’s novelty value in having rear wheels that point in the opposite direction to the fronts, technology always has a habit of dating a car. Take it out of the equation completely and you’re left with a punchy GT that’s (probably) more rewarding to drive than tech-laden original.

In that sense, the MR appears to kill two birds with one stone. It’s the most driver-focused car of the GTO/3000GT range and does away with the bits that are likely to cause a few reliability-induced headaches. Moreover, the GTO MR was only sold in Japan, with fresh imports like this example typically being free of rust. Couple that with an odometer reading of just 33,000 miles and the £26,995 starts to make sense. Granted, that’s still pricey for a GTO, but those on the hunt for a pristine example that (hopefully) won’t come to bite them later down the line need look no futher…


SPECIFICATION | MITSHUBISHI GTO MR

Engine: 2,972cc V6, twin-turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 315@2,500rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1998
Recorded mileage: 33,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £26,995

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MissChief

Original Poster:

7,998 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Really not sure about the wheels but it's certainly an interesting car, it's just the 3000GT/GTO was always pilloried as being a bit lardy. 1720Kg! Compare that to even a Supra, 1,615Kg, most Impreza's short of the mad ones seem to be around 1,500Kg, an RX-7 is under 1,300Kg. The NSX comes in at around 1,400Kg. Even the 300ZX is 100 KG lighter.

VS02

2,420 posts

90 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I don’t see the appeal of the MR over the VR4. Without all the gadgetry, what’s the appeal of the GTO? The VR4 is special. The MR is not what you call lithe either. And at 26995 you could get a VR4 without the issues mentioned in the article.

Wren-went

1,065 posts

68 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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The 3000 GT wasn't the active dampers aero 4 wheel steering what was special and alot of the appeal why buyers would want to buy 1.

This was for sale in the states as the Mitsubishi and as a badged Engineered Dodge,

Prefer the non MR myself.

SimonTheSailor

13,020 posts

258 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Weren't these known to the motoring journalists as just appalling bad ? I remember JayEmm doing a review of one (a normal one) and concluded it was indeed crap.

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

71 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I remember these being virtually ridiculed by the contemporary press as nothing like a drivers car. With looks only a mother could love I have no interest in them - especially when you consider some of the jcars coming out from of Japan at the same time.

mersontheperson

732 posts

195 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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The attraction to me with JDM performance cars from the 80’s and 90’s was the ability to purchase something, fast, fun and interesting for the same price as a used Golf GTI

But with parts for these cars increasingly hard to source, and prices more akin to a used Porsche, the attraction is really starting to wain.

Not so long ago I owned an amazing Legnum VR4, that was wonderful to drive. Lower mileage than this and I paid 2000 quid for it.



samoht

7,291 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Apart from the weight, the other issue with the 3000GT is that it's a transverse-engine car based on a front wheel drive platform, unlike contemporary rivals. Although this one has 4WD, the basic engine position ahead of the front wheels is fixed by the need for the entry level FF version to have adequate traction, hence it's inevitably nose-heavy.

Which rather leads to the question, why would you, especially at that price.

Roy H

36 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
I remember these being virtually ridiculed by the contemporary press as nothing like a drivers car. With looks only a mother could love I have no interest in them - especially when you consider some of the jcars coming out from of Japan at the same time.
You must have some interest or you wouldn’t be commenting on it

hairykrishna

14,528 posts

233 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I sort of fancied a GTO when they were hovering around 4k for an ok one. Not at 27k though, even for a special one.

wpa1975

14,777 posts

144 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Not a fan of these and £27k is nuts.

nismo48

7,162 posts

237 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Have always liked these cars, and the MR spec is that little bit differenti..I expect there is someone who will stump up the £27k for this rare beast..

cerb4.5lee

44,977 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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SimonTheSailor said:
Weren't these known to the motoring journalists as just appalling bad ? I remember JayEmm doing a review of one (a normal one) and concluded it was indeed crap.
I personally loved them at the time(the 3000GT), but back then I never read a decent review of them either. They universally got slated by journalists.

Chunkychucky

6,094 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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MissChief said:
...most Impreza's short of the mad ones seem to be around 1,500Kg
I had a Turbo 2000 estate, and that weighed a used-condom over 1300kg with plenty of V Power onboard rofl

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Im a bit torn really, I have always thought they looked ok but more of a GT car than the usual Jap point to point rocket. I have a feeling they were more designed for long cruising than B-road blasts, despite all the tech. They were always a bit of a show boat back in the day, as in, more for showing off with a large engine, lots of tech and bags of grunt/noise.

Always a bit of an older mans car to me and now I am an older gentleman, I wouldn't want to be seen in one I don't think, especially at 26 grand!

cerb4.5lee

44,977 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Evil.soup said:
Im a bit torn really, I have always thought they looked ok but more of a GT car than the usual Jap point to point rocket. I have a feeling they were more designed for long cruising than B-road blasts, despite all the tech. They were always a bit of a show boat back in the day, as in, more for showing off with a large engine, lots of tech and bags of grunt/noise.

Always a bit of an older mans car to me and now I am an older gentleman, I wouldn't want to be seen in one I don't think, especially at 26 grand!
Same and I always saw them like this too. I don't mind "chest wig" cars(even though I don't actually have a hairy chest!), but this definitely seemed to be more of a showing off exercise rather than a genuinely good drivers car as you say. I was always very fond of the 300ZX/Supra etc too, so I was naturally attracted to this.

J4CKO

46,974 posts

230 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I never quite got these at the time, but they have grown on me over time, I know they arent the last word in JDM goodness but all these years on it has got more appealing.

In period I worked with an IT contractor who had one, he was a cock of the highest order and rattled on about it and how wonderful and stupendously fast it was, he had a bit of a dice with a chap at work who had an MR2 Turbo (With a couple of minor mods) and got annihilated, he wheeled out many excuses and got quite stty about it.

But, was always the car in Gran Turismo that you could buy cheapest and tune to 1000 bhp, went well down straights and generally ploughed straight on in the bends, a combination I guess of weight and doing 200 plus MPH, and me being a bit crap.

Worked with a lady whose boyfriend had one, it got nicked and then found a day later, he went to get it and it didnt look too bad on the face of it, however the thieves had driven it really hard (used almost a full tank of fuel) involving a lot of donuts, turns out they had killed the gearbox, 4wd system and the engine had developed a knock, it got written off an he bought an R33 Skyline GTR in midnight Purple.

These always remind of of the big Technic Lego cars from the eighties/nineties that had 4wd and all the bells and whistles.

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
Evil.soup said:
Im a bit torn really, I have always thought they looked ok but more of a GT car than the usual Jap point to point rocket. I have a feeling they were more designed for long cruising than B-road blasts, despite all the tech. They were always a bit of a show boat back in the day, as in, more for showing off with a large engine, lots of tech and bags of grunt/noise.

Always a bit of an older mans car to me and now I am an older gentleman, I wouldn't want to be seen in one I don't think, especially at 26 grand!
Same and I always saw them like this too. I don't mind "chest wig" cars(even though I don't actually have a hairy chest!), but this definitely seemed to be more of a showing off exercise rather than a genuinely good drivers car as you say. I was always very fond of the 300ZX/Supra etc too, so I was naturally attracted to this.
Yes and those cars had the same feel about them, the older "medallion mans" chariot for curb crawling more than driving lol!

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Evil.soup said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Evil.soup said:
Im a bit torn really, I have always thought they looked ok but more of a GT car than the usual Jap point to point rocket. I have a feeling they were more designed for long cruising than B-road blasts, despite all the tech. They were always a bit of a show boat back in the day, as in, more for showing off with a large engine, lots of tech and bags of grunt/noise.

Always a bit of an older mans car to me and now I am an older gentleman, I wouldn't want to be seen in one I don't think, especially at 26 grand!
Same and I always saw them like this too. I don't mind "chest wig" cars(even though I don't actually have a hairy chest!), but this definitely seemed to be more of a showing off exercise rather than a genuinely good drivers car as you say. I was always very fond of the 300ZX/Supra etc too, so I was naturally attracted to this.
Yes and those cars had the same feel about them, the older "medallion mans" chariot for curb crawling more than driving lol!
CAR magazine really rated the 300zx tt, as did I. Great cars, wonderful handling, Japanese 928!

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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biggbn said:
Evil.soup said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Evil.soup said:
Im a bit torn really, I have always thought they looked ok but more of a GT car than the usual Jap point to point rocket. I have a feeling they were more designed for long cruising than B-road blasts, despite all the tech. They were always a bit of a show boat back in the day, as in, more for showing off with a large engine, lots of tech and bags of grunt/noise.

Always a bit of an older mans car to me and now I am an older gentleman, I wouldn't want to be seen in one I don't think, especially at 26 grand!
Same and I always saw them like this too. I don't mind "chest wig" cars(even though I don't actually have a hairy chest!), but this definitely seemed to be more of a showing off exercise rather than a genuinely good drivers car as you say. I was always very fond of the 300ZX/Supra etc too, so I was naturally attracted to this.
Yes and those cars had the same feel about them, the older "medallion mans" chariot for curb crawling more than driving lol!
CAR magazine really rated the 300zx tt, as did I. Great cars, wonderful handling, Japanese 928!
No, I agree, they were better drivers cars than the GTO, from what I was aware of at least, just making reference to the image of the day, the 928 had a similar image as well.

LuS1fer

43,543 posts

275 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I'd take a Corvette C5 or C6 any day of the week.