RE: Range Rover (L322) | Shed of the Week
RE: Range Rover (L322) | Shed of the Week
Friday 20th January 2023

Range Rover (L322) | Shed of the Week

That's right - a ticket to high society for little more than pocket change. You're welcome


Well, here's a turn-up for the books. This was meant to be the week where, to reflect the inflation that has infected used cars and life in general, the financial shackles were going to be let off Shed in the form of a £500 increase to his £1,500 allowance. He hasn't been this excited since the postmistress offered to provide him with a personal mail-handling service, but fate is a funny thing. A spectacularly unmissable SOTW debutant has come up at bang on the £1,500 limit – an L322 Range Rover, no less.

The ad is punctuation-free, and spaces between the words are hard to find as well, so you'll need to take a deep breath to read it. Save yourself the bother actually as it's only general spec stuff on there, with nothing about the specific car.

That's a shame, but you can sort of understand it because if you start talking about the foibles of an L322 you could be there all day. If you're an honest seller you’re likely to end up with an ad that does nothing but frighten readers to death. Best to say nothing and let the next owner find out just how many ways one of these can go wrong. Especially if you’re selling one that's been run into the ground by someone without the cash or the inclination to maintain it.

We'll get into (some of) that later, but for the moment let's just celebrate the greatness of the Range Rover, a conceptually wonderful vehicle blending luxury and ability in a magical mix that puts on top of many grizzled road testers' wish lists every time a new iteration comes out.

Let's look at what we've got here. It's not a Vogue, a V8 petrol, or even a V6 diesel, as that one didn't come along until the 2012-on gen-four RR. Our shed has the iron-blocked BMW M57 straight-six 2.9 diesel, one of the most reliable BMW sootchuckers ever, a good start that takes some of the fear out of the 189,000 mileage. Judging by the front bumper this is a pre-facelift car, which Shed thinks means it's running either E38 7-Series or Ford/Jaguar electrics, pre-dating the switch to CAN bus complexity. That's another potential point in the DIY-ing shedman's favour.

Okay, so let's look at the MOT history next. That's bound to be full of disasters. Well, no it isn't actually. After a fail in 2008 for lacerated tyres another twelve years passed before the tester gave it the thumbs down, and even that was just for a bald tyre, a couple of knackered brake pipes and a split CV boot. Rust commonly affects the back end of these but there's nothing to show that's ever been a problem here.

So far our shed is giving the lie to the shocking reputation of abused old Rangies. Of course, the MOT history doesn't detail any of the ongoing 'experiences' that can make L322 ownership a misery. Front diffs and driveshafts expired prematurely on pre-'06 cars. With luck this car will be on more durable replacements. Although the M57 diesel was a strong unit it did get a rep for glitchy injectors and whiny turbos. The ZF auto it was attached to was supposed to be sealed for life but anyone who followed that order was a mug.

The air suspension was designed to move smoothly through three height settings. If it sinks to its knees like a camel when you park up you'll have an expensive leak to sort out. The compressor needs to be in good nick. Chances are it won't be. A new one will cost £550 plus fitment.

These are big heavy cars that chomp through brake and suspension components. Clonking or rattling over rough ground suggests worn front suspension ball joints. It's easier to replace the whole arm there. Drop link bushes go and ignition barrels fail. If that's next to the steering column rather than next to the gearstick (Shed can't tell from the pics) you’ll be looking at eight hours' labour stripping out the dash. Despite the simpler electronics on these earlier cars there's no getting away from the fact that we're still talking about a vast quantity of electrically-driven hard/software here. Testing out all the toys and carrying out a diagnostic check is basically essential.

If the result of all your investigations doesn't soil your trousers then this car could be £1,500 well spent. There'll be more well-spent £1,500s to come, of that there is no doubt, but if you want to sample the high life even if only for a short time then this could be your best chance. The aftermarket exhaust tailpipes on this one look horrid but you won't be able to see those from your majestic eyrie behind the wheel.

Some folk, including marque specialists, say that the L322 was the last 'proper' Range Rover and, therefore, the best one. Others say that they will go up in value. If that happens soon, today might be a landmark moment, the only time you'll see one of these classic machines featured here. Right, there it is, please give Shed a minute to don his bulletproof vest before you load up your virtual Smith & Wessons. 


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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Shed has gone upmarket. Never mind a tip run car, smoke around in this until it breaks, fill it with rubbish instead of hiring a skip and then scrap it. Win win!

Billy_Whizzzz

2,640 posts

173 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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That’s a lot of shed for the ££

tonywbond

2 posts

67 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Never expected these to reach this price. Good shed. Could probably be broken for spares to recover your money if all went wrong.

Arsecati

2,784 posts

147 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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I still think it's a huge mistake moving the budget to £2k, as that to me is 'long term car' cash. The idea of a shed is it is literally a disposable car - buy it, run it till it collapses in to a heap, get another. This car typifies the 'shed of the week' perfectly, in finding something mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove for a stupidly cheap price - that would be hilarious to own for a while, and when it does inevitably explode, who cares - find something else mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove. For £2k, I'm going to be getting something that's probably going to be reliable and pain free, something I'm going to be more inclined to keep for a while to continue its 'basic transport' duties. I dunno, maybe it's the world we live in now, where everything is bought on monthlies, so nobody really knows the actual price of a car these days - but £2k is sensible money, not shed money, and not something I'd want to throw at a winter hack, dog transporter or tip traveller and keep long term.

PSB1967

502 posts

186 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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I'll take full credit for this as per my post in last weeks SOTW:

'Having quickly scoured the classifieds with the limit set at £1500, I saw a Smart for two, Audi TT roadster, various A3's and a couple of A4's including Avants. There's a cheap tax RR TD6, much French fodder, VW stuff and many Minis (Beemers without a horrid grille). There's even a Mk1 Focus with a years ticket. I could go on, but my point being that there are still many interesting cars at £1500, it just needs a bit of time to select the right one, not that I'm suggesting the recent selections have been done without. I'll continue to read SOTW regardless, but I can't help feeling like I'm being lead up the garden path a bit with the need to raise the limit.'

You're welcome!

MCBrowncoat

1,779 posts

176 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Arsecati said:
I still think it's a huge mistake moving the budget to £2k, as that to me is 'long term car' cash. The idea of a shed is it is literally a disposable car - buy it, run it till it collapses in to a heap, get another. This car typifies the 'shed of the week' perfectly, in finding something mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove for a stupidly cheap price - that would be hilarious to own for a while, and when it does inevitably explode, who cares - find something else mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove. For £2k, I'm going to be getting something that's probably going to be reliable and pain free, something I'm going to be more inclined to keep for a while to continue its 'basic transport' duties. I dunno, maybe it's the world we live in now, where everything is bought on monthlies, so nobody really knows the actual price of a car these days - but £2k is sensible money, not shed money, and not something I'd want to throw at a winter hack, dog transporter or tip traveller and keep long term.
On the whole I agree, I wouldn't mind a pure shed article, though I guess they could still find a car for less than £1.5k.

Can't remember exactly when it went up from £1.0k?

Trouble is, leave it at £1.5k, and there are often a few complaints about it being the same old stuff, might get a few more interesting vehicles in it by raising it. You'd hope.

Slowlygettingit

946 posts

71 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Remove a few of the choice ‘enhancements’ and it’s still a good looking thing.
As others have said buy and run until cost prohibitive repairs kill it - possibly quite quickly. Break for spares and it’s virtually free motoring - except tax, insurance and fuel.

Missed the length of MOT on it….

Filibuster

3,406 posts

245 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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I love a Range Rover and I know my way around them. I'd say I know a good one from a bad one and I wouldn't look at this one twice!

griffdude

1,930 posts

278 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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This old Range Rover is infinitely more desirable than that nasty EWB Bentley.

Blackpuddin

19,502 posts

235 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
Remove a few of the choice ‘enhancements’ and it’s still a good looking thing.
As others have said buy and run until cost prohibitive repairs kill it - possibly quite quickly. Break for spares and it’s virtually free motoring - except tax, insurance and fuel.

Missed the length of MOT on it….
End of October.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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MCBrowncoat said:
Arsecati said:
I still think it's a huge mistake moving the budget to £2k, as that to me is 'long term car' cash. The idea of a shed is it is literally a disposable car - buy it, run it till it collapses in to a heap, get another. This car typifies the 'shed of the week' perfectly, in finding something mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove for a stupidly cheap price - that would be hilarious to own for a while, and when it does inevitably explode, who cares - find something else mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove. For £2k, I'm going to be getting something that's probably going to be reliable and pain free, something I'm going to be more inclined to keep for a while to continue its 'basic transport' duties. I dunno, maybe it's the world we live in now, where everything is bought on monthlies, so nobody really knows the actual price of a car these days - but £2k is sensible money, not shed money, and not something I'd want to throw at a winter hack, dog transporter or tip traveller and keep long term.
On the whole I agree, I wouldn't mind a pure shed article, though I guess they could still find a car for less than £1.5k.

Can't remember exactly when it went up from £1.0k?

Trouble is, leave it at £1.5k, and there are often a few complaints about it being the same old stuff, might get a few more interesting vehicles in it by raising it. You'd hope.
But keep it low and some real horrors await - wasn't there a metro mobility thing and an LDV van at some point? I think the expectation that the vehicle should be good is the issue - some of the best have been the worst if you get my meaning, such horrors from the dark depths of the automotive world that they are the nightmares that lurk in the cupboard of the petrolhead.

Like the possible maintenance issues this could throw up. The one owner thing is interesting - if given a really thorough service before MOT it would explain the clean passes and I have known people who just very well maintain their vehicles, but then the last one with a bald tire looks odd - but this does look oddly appealing.

Edited by Numeric on Friday 20th January 07:35

Blackpuddin

19,502 posts

235 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Numeric said:
But keep it low and some real horrors await - wasn't there a metro mobility thing and an LDV van at some point? I think the expectation that the vehicle should be good is the issue - some of the best have been the worst if you get my meaning, such horrors from the dark depths of the automotive world that they are the nightmares that lurk in the cupboard of the petrolhead.
I see SOTW is an entertainment rather than a buyer's guide.

Bright Halo

3,991 posts

265 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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“M57 straight-six 2.9 diesel, one of the most reliable BMW sootchuckers ever”
I’m not sure the U.K. police force will agree with you on that.

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

49 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Proper shed. Already a contender for SOTY surely?

Run it until it has a serious malfunction and then weigh it in. Get a set of tweeds from the charity shop and you'll look right a t home sipping your Old Futtocks in the Dog and Duck.

BeastieBoy73

823 posts

142 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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As had been said before, that’s a lot of car for the money… not my cup of tea though but I’m glad it exists and can be had cheap for those that want the challenge of keeping one going.

£2k to me seems like ‘decent’ car territory rather than a shed but then again, I didn’t try very hard at school.

Dombilano

1,459 posts

85 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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More orangery than shed. I couldn't deal with the anxiety buying a RR at this level

alfaspecial

1,193 posts

170 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Interesting the debate re what price defines a 'shed'?


IMHO it should be £1000, not £1500 and certainly not £2000. Especially as we seem to be on the cusp of a recession - there might well be some downward pressure on car prices....... lets hope.


Serious suggestion to PH: How about reducing the SOTW nominal value to £1000, for genuine low budget motoring automotive Russian roulette
and
Getting Shed's social climbing snob cousin (the one who's post mistress' is named Hyacinth Booooouquet) to write another weekly article?
The 'theme' being flashier, pretentious motoring conducted under a financial 'sword of Damocles'


Suggestions for a 'News and Features' title on a postcard, please.

whp1983

1,396 posts

169 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Remove the tints, chrome extras and light guards and give to a clean and it looks ok!
Bork factor immense….. shed of the year early doors!

MCBrowncoat

1,779 posts

176 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Numeric said:
MCBrowncoat said:
Arsecati said:
I still think it's a huge mistake moving the budget to £2k, as that to me is 'long term car' cash. The idea of a shed is it is literally a disposable car - buy it, run it till it collapses in to a heap, get another. This car typifies the 'shed of the week' perfectly, in finding something mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove for a stupidly cheap price - that would be hilarious to own for a while, and when it does inevitably explode, who cares - find something else mad/interesting/scary/alloftheabove. For £2k, I'm going to be getting something that's probably going to be reliable and pain free, something I'm going to be more inclined to keep for a while to continue its 'basic transport' duties. I dunno, maybe it's the world we live in now, where everything is bought on monthlies, so nobody really knows the actual price of a car these days - but £2k is sensible money, not shed money, and not something I'd want to throw at a winter hack, dog transporter or tip traveller and keep long term.
On the whole I agree, I wouldn't mind a pure shed article, though I guess they could still find a car for less than £1.5k.

Can't remember exactly when it went up from £1.0k?

Trouble is, leave it at £1.5k, and there are often a few complaints about it being the same old stuff, might get a few more interesting vehicles in it by raising it. You'd hope.
But keep it low and some real horrors await - wasn't there a metro mobility thing and an LDV van at some point? I think the expectation that the vehicle should be good is the issue - some of the best have been the worst if you get my meaning, such horrors from the dark depths of the automotive world that they are the nightmares that lurk in the cupboard of the petrolhead.

Like the possible maintenance issues this could throw up. The one owner thing is interesting - if given a really thorough service before MOT it would explain the clean passes and I have known people who just very well maintain their vehicles, but then the last one with a bald tire looks odd - but this does look oddly appealing.

Edited by Numeric on Friday 20th January 07:35
Aah yeah the (red?) Metro Popemobile thing? ....interesting though laugh

Chubbyross

5,003 posts

115 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Filibuster said:
I love a Range Rover and I know my way around them. I'd say I know a good one from a bad one and I wouldn't look at this one twice!
I’d love a decent RR but I’m scared off by the horror stories. Out of interest, what things leap out at you on this one?