RE: VW previews new Touareg ahead of full reveal
RE: VW previews new Touareg ahead of full reveal
Wednesday 15th February 2023

VW previews new Touareg ahead of full reveal

Improved quality, more tech and better performance promised for updated Touareg - including 462hp R version


It seems that barely a week passes without a new bestselling SUV based off the VW MLBEvo toolkit is announced. The Bentley Bentayga goes from strength to strength, the Lamborghini Urus has already sold 20,000 units and the Porsche Cayenne is due an update - despite still being near the top of the class already. But when did you last hear about the VW Touareg? It shares the same architecture and some of the engines, yet seems to pass mostly under the radar. Perhaps that’s the point of the pragmatic VW SUV against showier in-house alternatives. But the fact that the Touareg R eHybrid was axed at the end of last year after 18 months on sale - the kind of plug-in performance SUV we’re led to believe the world can’t get enough of - suggests it has been a trickier needle to thread. Time for the life-giving facelift.

We don’t have all the details just yet, with the full reveal due in May. But for the Touareg nip-and-tuck, much that’s already been confirmed for the Cayenne will make its way to the VW. That includes HD LED lights, made of 38,400 micro-LEDs that turn night - you’ve guessed it - ‘into day’, as well as a Lane Light assist to help out when there are roadworks on the motorway and the lanes are narrow. We’ve reached the point where cars are so big they’re fitted with a light carpet that ‘follows the lane with magnet-like precision’; that being said, anyone who’s encountered a motorway down to one lane in the middle of the night for a smart overhaul will probably appreciate Lane Light. Those behind will be able to gawp at VW’s first illuminated logo.

VW is promising powertrain upgrades for a ‘new synthesis of comfort and performance’, though the vital numbers for the engines currently offered in the UK are unchanged. That means 231hp and 369lb ft for the standard diesel, 286hp and 442lb ft for the more potent 3.0-litre TDI, then 340hp and 332lb ft for the 3.0 TSI petrol. Asssuming the eHybrid cars feature in the UK, the R gets the same 462hp combined output as before. 

Accordingly, the most notable changes for the drive will likely come from the ride and handling, with the standard steel suspension and optional air setup benefitting from both new hardware and software. VW reckons it has further increased ‘the already large bandwidth offered by the Touareg in terms of its combination of maximum comfort with optimum performance.’ Given how capable the cars with which it shares so much are (four-wheel steering and active anti-roll are also on the menu) there’s every reason to expect a lot from the new model. 

Not that that will really matter to those not behind the wheel; they’ll be more interested in faster charging USB-C ports (now 45 W rather than 15), softer armrests, new door panels and - get this - squidgier kneepads as well. The height of luxury. But then not much has changed because the Touareg interior was already quite good, 15-inch central touchscreen and all.

Perhaps people aren’t keen to spend almost Cayenne money on a VW SUV, and maybe these interior upgrades will convince buyers that the Touareg is rather more than a big Tiguan. But we’ll have a better idea when the camo comes off in May. In the meantime, those Touaregs you never noticed before are in the classifieds, including one of those very rare, 462hp R Hybrids - it’s yours for a little more than £60k.


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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Request PistonHeads change name to FATSUVHEADS......


ducnick

2,282 posts

273 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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I suspect if you can live with the awful VW interior/ interface, then the touareg is the best of all the VW group SUV’s. Same basic platform as the q7, q8, Bentley and lambo at a lower price point and cheaper servicing. The basic engine provides more than enough performance for something so massive.
If they did this with physical buttons, I would be very tempted…..

Wab1974uk

1,415 posts

57 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Have to say, it's very rare to see a Touareg on the road.

They mustn't sell many in the UK?

Trickytimes

39 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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I have a 2018 Touareg (purchased 2019) that I only planned to keep for 6 months but still have it now. It has been a superb family car. I have the 286bhp diesel which is as quick as you would want an SUV to be and has averaged 40mpg over nearly 4 years and 50000 miles. Lots of scratchy plastics low down but most of the areas that you touch are pleasant enough.

Escort Si-130

3,457 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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LBW2020 said:
Request PistonHeads change name to FATSUVHEADS......
LMFAO

Sheepshanks

41,217 posts

149 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Wab1974uk said:
Have to say, it's very rare to see a Touareg on the road.

They mustn't sell many in the UK?
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.

ducnick

2,282 posts

273 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
Wab1974uk said:
Have to say, it's very rare to see a Touareg on the road.

They mustn't sell many in the UK?
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.
£642 / month pcp for toureag SEL
Vs
£706 / month pcp for base spec Audi q7


Add some options to the vw and it’s so close to the Audi price that most pcp buyers will go down the Audi route I bet.

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

130 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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ducnick said:
Sheepshanks said:
Wab1974uk said:
Have to say, it's very rare to see a Touareg on the road.

They mustn't sell many in the UK?
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.
£642 / month pcp for toureag SEL
Vs
£706 / month pcp for base spec Audi q7


Add some options to the vw and it’s so close to the Audi price that most pcp buyers will go down the Audi route I bet.
I bet you are spot on. The Audi residuals driven by the badge will make it a no brainier unless you actively dislike premium brands (my inlaws are in this category, and the majority of French people).

mylesmcd

2,587 posts

249 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Jag_NE said:
ducnick said:
Sheepshanks said:
Wab1974uk said:
Have to say, it's very rare to see a Touareg on the road.

They mustn't sell many in the UK?
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.
£642 / month pcp for toureag SEL
Vs
£706 / month pcp for base spec Audi q7


Add some options to the vw and it’s so close to the Audi price that most pcp buyers will go down the Audi route I bet.
I bet you are spot on. The Audi residuals driven by the badge will make it a no brainier unless you actively dislike premium brands (my inlaws are in this category, and the majority of French people).
The VW is SEL, so will have said bells and whistles. The Audi will be billy basic at that price...remember the softer knee pads and 45w USB-C!

SteBrown91

3,155 posts

159 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.
i think its mainly down to the fact in the later years of the mk3 (or mk2, depending who you speak to) VW subsidised them on silly cheap least deals, so there thousands of 2015/16/17 cars in Rline and Rline Plus spec (usually in white)


nismo48

7,160 posts

237 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Jag_NE said:
ducnick said:
Sheepshanks said:
Wab1974uk said:
Have to say, it's very rare to see a Touareg on the road.

They mustn't sell many in the UK?
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.
£642 / month pcp for toureag SEL
Vs
£706 / month pcp for base spec Audi q7


Add some options to the vw and it’s so close to the Audi price that most pcp buyers will go down the Audi route I bet.
I bet you are spot on. The Audi residuals driven by the badge will make it a no brainier unless you actively dislike premium brands (my inlaws are in this category, and the majority of French people).
+1 Absolutely

226cr

1 posts

159 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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I have driven an automatic top spec Amorok pick up for the last three and a half years. After driving manual top spec L200's for the last sixteen years. The Amarok blows any other pick up out of the water. Admittedly changed to auto from manual but the extra power and not having to have the clutch pedal permenantly depressed in traffic made driving it feel more like a car than a tractor. Gutted that the next Amarok is Gonna be a Ford. I have been lucky enough to to be able to look at my next vehicle being a luxury SUV as opposed to a pick up for tax reasons. I did a test drive of the highly specced black edition last week and found it to have the performance of a hot hatch and all the luxury of a top spec SUV. I think VW have got it dead right for the balance between performance, driving aids, luxury and price.
What a sucker!!
It is now on order.

DonkeyApple

70,407 posts

199 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.
I suspect it's more down to the affluence of the U.K. meaning most people buy the versions without the VW badge? Not exactly a shortage of Cayenne's floating about for example, or the ones with the Audi badges. Even see quite a few Bentayga and Urus.

Sheepshanks

41,217 posts

149 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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DonkeyApple said:
I suspect it's more down to the affluence of the U.K. meaning most people buy the versions without the VW badge? Not exactly a shortage of Cayenne's floating about for example, or the ones with the Audi badges. Even see quite a few Bentayga and Urus.
I guess that's true - they moved Touareg quite a bit up-market (well, increased its price) with the last revision so much more competition for it.

AddyT.

588 posts

123 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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My wife got a 2019 Touareg 286bhp diesel a few months ago in R-Line Tech spec (as that comes with the 15” screen). £60k new, I think it was about £42k with only 12k miles on it. Its a very nice car and it doesn’t feel stupidly big when you are driving it. As someone else has said, this engine is definitely quick enough and we see 42mpg easily in day to day driving.

swisstoni

24,118 posts

309 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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No telling what it’s going to look like under all that camo. rolleyes

Bobupndown

2,984 posts

73 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Over 40 mpg for a 3 litre 4x4 is pretty good.

Mouse Rat

2,104 posts

122 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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We've had our 3.0tdi 286 black edition for over 2 years and it will do 40mpg. I've had 47mpg without trying. There is a flip side to that.
Anyway there's an ongoing and well supported thread in the VW section. Worth a read if anyone is considering one.

okenemem

1,493 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Bobupndown said:
Over 40 mpg for a 3 litre 4x4 is pretty good.
so good i dont believe it

jamiedimonBTClover

143 posts

64 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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SteBrown91 said:
Sheepshanks said:
I was going to say that too - the current model doesn't seem to have got going at all, whereas you see loads of the original one.

I suppose they have had massive supply difficulties for a chunk of its life.
i think its mainly down to the fact in the later years of the mk3 (or mk2, depending who you speak to) VW subsidised them on silly cheap least deals, so there thousands of 2015/16/17 cars in Rline and Rline Plus spec (usually in white)
Yep. We had a 2017 R Line+ on monthlies for less than an X Trail as a school run battlebus. Silly cheap motoring because they discounted the hell out of it to shift units. It's the cleanest example of how PCP or lease can beat actual ownership. After it was stolen, we got a RRS; which in my mind was a lesser vehicle (reliability and ubiquity being the main reasons). Would never buy one, but they did represent a cheap alternative to the Q7 etc. Mine cost about 12k over 2.75 years which is silly considering depreciation from new.

The newer version seems too expensive for what it is (even if it's less naff than its competition). High borrowing costs not helping.

If they run these out on cheap leases, we'd have another - but can't see it in 2023. As a family hack it was difficult to fault.

This probably being the worst PH clichéd post ever.