RE: BMW lauds the benefits of handcrafting 3.0 CSL
RE: BMW lauds the benefits of handcrafting 3.0 CSL
Friday 17th February 2023

BMW lauds the benefits of handcrafting 3.0 CSL

Vastly expensive 'special gift' to customers is apparently getting the treatment its status deserves


It isn’t hard to take aim at the 3.0 CSL as a BMW purist - or just as a casual car fan - and pick flaws in it. The car is going to be hugely expensive, few would call it a pretty BMW, and there’s probably a bit more M4 to be seen than might be desirable. All that being said, there’s quite a bit to be encouraged by as well; some of it we knew - stuff like 560hp with a manual gearbox - and others we did not, which BMW has now detailed with the first CSLs in build.

The E34 era of BMW M5 was the last fully handbuilt M car, almost 30 years ago, but there’s a significant amount of traditional craftsmanship in this CSL as well. It will emerge from BMW’s Moosthenning ‘craft workshop’, a subsidiary of the Dingolfing plant in Lower Bavaria; useful for logistics as that’s where the regular M4 is assembled, but built by a team of 30 over a two-week period for a very different product. It uses the CSL’s body, with modifications incorporated in the same build area as that used for the GT4 car.

According to BMW, those unmistakeable arches are widened ‘using special beading and welding processes’, which surely won’t be the work of a moment. The M tricolour is applied by hand and, in best low-volume production tradition, certain CSL parts are painted somewhere that isn’t Dingolfing or Moosthenning either; they’re done at the plastic exterior section of BMW’s facility in Landshut. Again it’s nearby, but in case you were wondering how one car could take two weeks, hopefully you’re getting some idea.

The axles have to be modified for those beautiful centre-lock wheels, too, and the interior upgrades require trips to two workshops. The carbon panels are also done somewhere else, and the ‘distinctive rear section’ requires yet another location… and then it goes back to Dingolfing for testing and inspection. Only after all that does the customer get the handover at BMW World. It’s easy to be cynical about anniversary specials - and BMW has rightly come in for some flak lately - but there's no denying the hours or additional effort that evidently goes into each 3.0 CSL.

Dingolfing Plant Director Christoph Schröder: “We are proud to be entrusted with building such an iconic car. It underlines the wide range of models and technologies we have here on-site – from fully-electric BMW i models all the way to our M high-performance models. And it shows that, in addition to highly automated large-scale production, we also excel at hand-crafting cars.”


 

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Slowlygettingit

Original Poster:

946 posts

71 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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While I appreciate the extra work differentiation from the M4 basis. There is still no want for either.
Time has moved on for BMW and it appears I’m stuck in the 70’s to 2000’s. Dream garage following a lottery win would include half a dozen beemers. All from that period with - maybe recent m5 competition as a daily, as the only recent / current car that tickles my fancy.
Mrs SGI has last gen m4, her / our 4th m3/4. And even she has expressed no desire for anything current.

Pflanzgarten

7,664 posts

55 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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Getting old sucks, I’d have loved that in my youth but I’d be tragically embarrassed to drive around in that.

daveco

4,413 posts

237 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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It's probably because I'm getting old, but I can't see any car as special if it's got a turbo.

I immediately thought "they've fitted a naturally aspirated high revving engine then??"

I (unfairly) dismiss anything with a turbo as not as special as a NA unit.

silly

simundo777

217 posts

201 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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What a truly awful looking thing. Every angle just looks wrong. The only thing I quite like is the wheel design but they look far too big which the ride height only accentuates.

Alfa showed M division how it should be done with the GTAM.

AW111

9,674 posts

163 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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No love from me.

The original M cars were designed to win races, and the 3.0 "batmobile" is a case in point - all those OTT aero addons were there for that reason only.
I'll never own a 3.0 CSL, but I love them.




This new thing is just garage jewellery, trading on past history, when the M badge stood for Motorsport, not Money.

Twinair

1,040 posts

172 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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To be mocking this effort - in my view, is just sour grapes & a bit childish!

Slowlygettingit

Original Poster:

946 posts

71 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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AW111 said:
No love from me.

The original M cars were designed to win races, and the 3.0 "batmobile" is a case in point - all those OTT aero addons were there for that reason only.
I'll never own a 3.0 CSL, but I love them.




This new thing is just garage jewellery, trading on past history, when the M badge stood for Motorsport, not Money.
This would be the first bmw into the lotto win garage

bumskins

2,268 posts

45 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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Twinair said:
To be mocking this effort - in my view, is just sour grapes & a bit childish!
Are you butt hurt you didn't get one/can't afford one or something?

JDC260

6 posts

155 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I love the look of this CSL.
If only BMW has put that grill on the M4/M3 and added the rear quarter window surround to the M4, for me, they would have cured the main things I don't like about those cars.

Demelitia

689 posts

86 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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“The M tricolour is applied by hand…”
It’s a shame then that they couldn’t get the lines to flow through correctly at the transition between the boot and nearside rear quarter.
How did no one notice that and keep it out of the press photos?

AW111

9,674 posts

163 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
AW111 said:
No love from me.

The original M cars were designed to win races, and the 3.0 "batmobile" is a case in point - all those OTT aero addons were there for that reason only.
I'll never own a 3.0 CSL, but I love them.




This new thing is just garage jewellery, trading on past history, when the M badge stood for Motorsport, not Money.
This would be the first bmw into the lotto win garage
Car #2 for me.

You need something practical like that for when the M1 is too cramped.



mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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This kind of low volume model, on humbler underpinnings, is always a tough one to objectively justify, yet will sell out immediately at whatever price it's marketed at.

Whether its something like a Zagato Aston Martin, this BMW, or maybe a 911 Speedster, the automotive world is a better place for their existence.

The big shame will be that these are likely to all head for a collection, and we'll be unlikely to see one of these in the paddock of a race track, with the wheels encrusted with dust, and the bespoke bodywork suitably scratched and chipped ...... that'd be perfect!!

nismo48

7,158 posts

237 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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I think this is a great looking car and would love it if funds allowed wink

AW111

9,674 posts

163 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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Demelitia said:
“The M tricolour is applied by hand…”
It’s a shame then that they couldn’t get the lines to flow through correctly at the transition between the boot and nearside rear quarter.
How did no one notice that and keep it out of the press photos?
They did manage to only partially show the pig-snout grille, so they're somewhat switched-on.

carlo996

6,815 posts

51 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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So a big manufacturer makes a nod to its history and puts a load of hours and tech into a car…only to have a bunch of grumpy old men to whinge? Porsche and Lotus do this every week and it seems quite popular rofl

Well done BMW, it’s great someone is still making performance cars in these days of boring EV’s and white goods.

AW111

9,674 posts

163 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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carlo996 said:
So a big manufacturer makes a nod to its history and puts a load of hours and tech into a car…only to have a bunch of grumpy old men to whinge? Porsche and Lotus do this every week and it seems quite popular rofl

Well done BMW, it’s great someone is still making performance cars in these days of boring EV’s and white goods.
???

How is saying I / we don't like it whinging? If you like it, fine, that's your decision.

MDL111

8,919 posts

207 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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I think it looks interesting and it is a manual, so would quite like one

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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bumskins said:
Twinair said:
To be mocking this effort - in my view, is just sour grapes & a bit childish!
Are you butt hurt you didn't get one/can't afford one or something?
What a peculiar response.

Julian Scott

4,308 posts

54 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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carlo996 said:
So a big manufacturer makes a nod to its history and puts a load of hours and tech into a car…only to have a bunch of grumpy old men to whinge? Porsche and Lotus do this every week and it seems quite popular rofl

Well done BMW, it’s great someone is still making performance cars in these days of boring EV’s and white goods.
Porsche/Lotus don't do this every week...they just very slightly add to a base model by adding some options and a fancy paint job. This is a bespoke handbuilt body.

Julian Scott

4,308 posts

54 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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bumskins said:
Twinair said:
To be mocking this effort - in my view, is just sour grapes & a bit childish!
Are you butt hurt you didn't get one/can't afford one or something?
What is 'butt hurt'?