Boring plate retention question
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Mrs ZS will be swapping her car in a few weeks time, and we want to put the plate on her current car on retention before it goes back.
The private plate has been on the car from new, so we don't have any "original" plates ready to go back on, and my understanding is when you do it online you'll get assigned a replacement plate (for the relevant year), and that it takes effect immediately.
The dealer we're picking up the new car from has said we can email the new reg across and they'll make up the plates, and we can pop across to pick them up. But that would mean driving there (about 20 miles) on the private plate, which as far as the DVLA (and I guess any police/ANPR) are concerned would no longer exist.
Am I overthinking this, or missing something obvious?
The private plate has been on the car from new, so we don't have any "original" plates ready to go back on, and my understanding is when you do it online you'll get assigned a replacement plate (for the relevant year), and that it takes effect immediately.
The dealer we're picking up the new car from has said we can email the new reg across and they'll make up the plates, and we can pop across to pick them up. But that would mean driving there (about 20 miles) on the private plate, which as far as the DVLA (and I guess any police/ANPR) are concerned would no longer exist.
Am I overthinking this, or missing something obvious?
Zetec-S said:
Mrs ZS will be swapping her car in a few weeks time, and we want to put the plate on her current car on retention before it goes back.
The private plate has been on the car from new, so we don't have any "original" plates ready to go back on, and my understanding is when you do it online you'll get assigned a replacement plate (for the relevant year), and that it takes effect immediately.
The dealer we're picking up the new car from has said we can email the new reg across and they'll make up the plates, and we can pop across to pick them up. But that would mean driving there (about 20 miles) on the private plate, which as far as the DVLA (and I guess any police/ANPR) are concerned would no longer exist.
Am I overthinking this, or missing something obvious?
When you retain the plate online you will immediately get the new plate number plus a certificate valid for 3 days in order to get the new plate made up. The private plate has been on the car from new, so we don't have any "original" plates ready to go back on, and my understanding is when you do it online you'll get assigned a replacement plate (for the relevant year), and that it takes effect immediately.
The dealer we're picking up the new car from has said we can email the new reg across and they'll make up the plates, and we can pop across to pick them up. But that would mean driving there (about 20 miles) on the private plate, which as far as the DVLA (and I guess any police/ANPR) are concerned would no longer exist.
Am I overthinking this, or missing something obvious?
You could forward both to the dealer to get the new plate made up.
Are you partex the old car for the new ?
alscar said:
When you retain the plate online you will immediately get the new plate number plus a certificate valid for 3 days in order to get the new plate made up.
You could forward both to the dealer to get the new plate made up.
Are you partex the old car for the new ?
Ah ok, so there's a bit of leeway?You could forward both to the dealer to get the new plate made up.
Are you partex the old car for the new ?
Yes, car is being partex, but we don't want the plate on the new car (will just leave it on retention, possibly sell in future)
Zetec-S said:
Ah ok, so there's a bit of leeway?
Yes, car is being partex, but we don't want the plate on the new car (will just leave it on retention, possibly sell in future)
If you're not putting the new plate on anything, just drive to the garage and then do the reg retention there? Its all done online anyway. Its then the dealers problem waiting for the new V5 etc, not yours.Yes, car is being partex, but we don't want the plate on the new car (will just leave it on retention, possibly sell in future)
Zetec-S said:
It will have the reg it comes with.
In which case very easy - just retain on line the day before or so then drive over to the dealer with the old plates still on and he can make up the plates to go on so doesn’t involve you at all as such. Pick up new car drive home.
Few days pass and you will receive the retention certificate through the post.
When you sort the insurance for the new car just leave an overlap time to drop off and pick up then no issues there either.
If you are still worried just print off the new ins cert plus maybe have the old one with you BUT you really won’t have any issues.
I’ve done this lots of times - the drive over question I have had myself when I first did it but it’s never been an issue including when I was waiting in a traffic jam next to a police interceptor vehicle.
Zetec-S said:
Mrs ZS will be swapping her car in a few weeks time, and we want to put the plate on her current car on retention before it goes back.
The private plate has been on the car from new, so we don't have any "original" plates ready to go back on, and my understanding is when you do it online you'll get assigned a replacement plate (for the relevant year), and that it takes effect immediately.
The dealer we're picking up the new car from has said we can email the new reg across and they'll make up the plates, and we can pop across to pick them up. But that would mean driving there (about 20 miles) on the private plate, which as far as the DVLA (and I guess any police/ANPR) are concerned would no longer exist.
Am I overthinking this, or missing something obvious?
I was in the same situation last year when part-exing my car.The private plate has been on the car from new, so we don't have any "original" plates ready to go back on, and my understanding is when you do it online you'll get assigned a replacement plate (for the relevant year), and that it takes effect immediately.
The dealer we're picking up the new car from has said we can email the new reg across and they'll make up the plates, and we can pop across to pick them up. But that would mean driving there (about 20 miles) on the private plate, which as far as the DVLA (and I guess any police/ANPR) are concerned would no longer exist.
Am I overthinking this, or missing something obvious?
I did the private plate retention online about 2 weeks before the new car collection date, as I did not know how long the process might take, but I was instantly assigned a new age related plate for the old car.
I didn't want to pay for new plates to be made up, so I just kept the private plate on the car but making sure to keep the car documents, V5 & DVLA plate change letter with me in case I was pulled over by the police.
Nothing ever occurred in those two weeks, and in any case there is a clear link between the car and the old & new plates, so I would say don't over think it, but with the obvious caveat that YMMV.
Richtea1970 said:
If you're not putting the new plate on anything, just drive to the garage and then do the reg retention there? Its all done online anyway. Its then the dealers problem waiting for the new V5 etc, not yours.
I’ve always slightly worried about doing the retention at the garage given if there is any issue with dvla online you then have a slight issue - do it a day or so prior and far less stressful !
The replacement V5c will have to go to the registered keeper, i.e. you. If the dealer is happy to wait for the V5c to be taken to him by you at a later date, fair enough, but I'd have thought it prudent to do it as soon as possible. 
You 'll need to tell your insurance company too if you drive it with a different plate on it.
You 'll need to tell your insurance company too if you drive it with a different plate on it.
sixor8 said:
The replacement V5c will have to go to the registered keeper, i.e. you. If the dealer is happy to wait for the V5c to be taken to him by you at a later date, fair enough, but I'd have thought it prudent to do it as soon as possible.
You 'll need to tell your insurance company too if you drive it with a different plate on it.
Good point about the replacement V5 although any dealer should be pretty relaxed at waiting a few days and the replacement V5 can also be emailed to them. You 'll need to tell your insurance company too if you drive it with a different plate on it.
alscar said:
sixor8 said:
The replacement V5c will have to go to the registered keeper, i.e. you. If the dealer is happy to wait for the V5c to be taken to him by you at a later date, fair enough, but I'd have thought it prudent to do it as soon as possible.
You 'll need to tell your insurance company too if you drive it with a different plate on it.
Good point about the replacement V5 although any dealer should be pretty relaxed at waiting a few days and the replacement V5 can also be emailed to them. You 'll need to tell your insurance company too if you drive it with a different plate on it.
Other peoples real life experiences may differ.
Hol said:
From personal experience of this last year, the dealer requested a deposit in lieu of the new V5C being received back from DVLA by us in the replacement registration number first, and then handed over to them. In the meantime they were unable to sell or trade on our old car.
Other peoples real life experiences may differ.
I’ve had the same whereby the deposit I initially paid to secure the car was kept until they received the new v5 and then they refunded it. Other peoples real life experiences may differ.
Geffg said:
Hol said:
From personal experience of this last year, the dealer requested a deposit in lieu of the new V5C being received back from DVLA by us in the replacement registration number first, and then handed over to them. In the meantime they were unable to sell or trade on our old car.
Other peoples real life experiences may differ.
I’ve had the same whereby the deposit I initially paid to secure the car was kept until they received the new v5 and then they refunded it. Other peoples real life experiences may differ.
Hol said:
Their justification to us, was that it was an encouragement to bring back the V5C as soon as possible. Like yourself they refunded the (indemnity) deposit that same day.
I guess makes sense from their perspective and also depends on your relationship / circumstances with said dealer but suppose best idea is to just discuss all aspects with them when deal initially done. Forums | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff