Models that killed a lineage
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I saw a last generation Beetle today, a car that completely failed to maintain the charm of its predecessor and as a result became a rather pointless mid point between the Golf and TT.
It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
SweptVolume said:
I saw a last generation Beetle today, a car that completely failed to maintain the charm of its predecessor and as a result became a rather pointless mid point between the Golf and TT.
It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
Given what they've done with the van, I'd be amazed if they don't build an electric version of the Beetle.It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
Krikkit said:
Given what they've done with the van, I'd be amazed if they don't build an electric version of the Beetle.
Looking at what Renault are doing with the electric 5, I think you're right. Go hard on the nostalgia to smokescreen the homogenisation of drivetrains that electric brings.Krikkit said:
SweptVolume said:
I saw a last generation Beetle today, a car that completely failed to maintain the charm of its predecessor and as a result became a rather pointless mid point between the Golf and TT.
It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
Given what they've done with the van, I'd be amazed if they don't build an electric version of the Beetle.It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
All these manufacturers are trying to hit the retro button to make their mundane EV's seem cool and hip, I think it will be back and will be popular, at first at least.
FA57REN said:
MR2 Mk3
It had no boot, which was odd, but did it kill the car? I always thought the MK3 went back to the roots of the MK1, where the MK2 was a bit bloated and had iffy handling. Toyota pretty much gave up on interesting cars for a decade after the MK3 MR2, so I'd have thought it was killed more by business direction than the car itself.
t.SweptVolume said:
Krikkit said:
Given what they've done with the van, I'd be amazed if they don't build an electric version of the Beetle.
Looking at what Renault are doing with the electric 5, I think you're right. Go hard on the nostalgia to smokescreen the homogenisation of drivetrains that electric brings.SweptVolume said:
FA57REN said:
MR2 Mk3
It had no boot, which was odd, but did it kill the car? I always thought the MK3 went back to the roots of the MK1, where the MK2 was a bit bloated and had iffy handling. Toyota pretty much gave up on interesting cars for a decade after the MK3 MR2, so I'd have thought it was killed more by business direction than the car itself.Ford is doing a good job of ruining the Mustang name by putting it on an ugly electric SUV. In fact they seem to be busily committing commercial suicide by killing off all the models that made them what they are, but that's another story.
Nickbrapp said:
The last Impreza, god knows why they ever made it a hatchback.
The lineage isn't dead though https://www.subaru.com/vehicles/impreza.htmlSweptVolume said:
It had no boot, which was odd, but did it kill the car? I always thought the MK3 went back to the roots of the MK1, where the MK2 was a bit bloated and had iffy handling. Toyota pretty much gave up on interesting cars for a decade after the MK3 MR2, so I'd have thought it was killed more by business direction than the car itself.
By all accounts it was a good car, but it was such a departure from the earlier models because it was the vanguard for Project Genesis to attract a younger demographic to Toyota. It failed to do that, as well as alienating traditional customers of the type, and faded away in half the time of its predecessor.Evil.soup said:
Krikkit said:
SweptVolume said:
I saw a last generation Beetle today, a car that completely failed to maintain the charm of its predecessor and as a result became a rather pointless mid point between the Golf and TT.
It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
Given what they've done with the van, I'd be amazed if they don't build an electric version of the Beetle.It's very likely the last Beetle is responsible for the end of that lineage and that got me thinking: what other cars totally dropped the ball and killed off a lineage?
All these manufacturers are trying to hit the retro button to make their mundane EV's seem cool and hip, I think it will be back and will be popular, at first at least.
SweptVolume said:
Looking at what Renault are doing with the electric 5, I think you're right. Go hard on the nostalgia to smokescreen the homogenisation of drivetrains that electric brings.
Yep, the last iteration of the Beetle was particularly renowned for its range of bespoke and interesting engines which were definitely not to be found across the VW empire! samoht said:
Nickbrapp said:
The last Impreza, god knows why they ever made it a hatchback.
The lineage isn't dead though https://www.subaru.com/vehicles/impreza.htmlIn the UK, it is more a shame they dropped the Impreza tag from the WRX Sti as in my mind, that is still an Impreza.
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