RE: Alpina Roadster S | Spotted
RE: Alpina Roadster S | Spotted
Monday 6th March 2023

Alpina Roadster S | Spotted

It didn't take long for the BMW Z4 to fall off Alpina's radar - shame, the last one was a belter


With its official absorption into the BMW mothership well underway, Alpina has evidently long since given up on treating BMW’s more recent roadsters the sport-lux treatment. The E89 generation Z4 never received an Alpina variant, and all hope of the current-gen G29 car getting one is now long gone. That’s a massive shame given that BMW M hasn’t stepped up to the plate with its own two-seater offering since the Z4 M Roadster some 17 years ago.

It doesn’t look like that’s going to change under a new parent either. Burkard Bovensiepen, head of the German tuner, recently revealed on The Smoking Tire podcast that Alpina has no intention of including BMW’s ‘cheaper’ models, such as the 1 and 2 Series, under its umbrella, and will continue to focus on the firm’s more premium offerings. Presumably, the Z4 falls into the former category. Sure, there’s always the M40i variant which sort of covers the fast grand tourer that Alpina aims for with its creations, but that’s clutching at straws somewhat. For a proper two-seater Alpina experience, you’ll need to keep an eye out for an old Roadster S. Oh, fancy that. One’s popped up on the classifieds.

Alpina is, of course, the Yin to BMW M’s Yang. Fast for sure, but far better suited to Germany’s autobahn network than the Nurburgring’s north loop. The Roadster S, however, was a little bit different. It would essentially serve as a precursor to the BMW Z4 M Roadster, as the model was axed in 2006 having been on sale for just two years. During that time only 370 examples were produced, 167 of which were right hookers earmarked for the UK market – or roughly ten per cent of British Z4 Ms.

Fundamentally, the Roadster S isn’t all that different to M car. Obviously, it isn’t as powerful. Alpinas rarely are. However, the 300hp on offer through a 3.4-litre naturally aspirated straight six - a tweaked version of the 3.2-litre engine found in North American versions of the E36 M3 and Z3 M - isn’t all that far off the M equivalent. It’s around 130kg lighter, too, with a power-to-weight ratio that’s less than 10hp per tonne shy of the M car. But the real shocker here (in a good way) is that the tuner opted against its Switch-Tronic auto box and instead fitted a ZF-built six-speed manual.

Beyond that, it’s standard Alpina fare. The company fitted its own dampers with Eibach springs, though the upgrades are nowhere near as comprehensive as what you’ll find on the M version. What is significant, however, is the interior makeover the Roadster S received. Alpina reportedly made thousands of changes to the cabin, including new leather sports seats, signature blue dials and a smattering of company badges and logos dotted throughout. This car comes with the optional Luxury package, a chunky £4,850 option back in the day but it did bring Bluetooth connectivity, parking sensors, even more leather and much more besides. 

By now, you’d think that this Roadster S must carry a brow-raising asking price, what with Alpinas being mostly immune to heavy depreciation. Yet despite the badge and exclusivity, number 137 is listed at £20,995 through Duke of London. By comparison, this Z4 M Roadster will set you back a further £18,000 – albeit with a fewer miles on the clock. We’ll take the rarer, slightly softer car and use the leftover change on a road trip down to the cols of Southern France, thanks.


SPECIFICATION | ALPINE ROADSTER S

Engine: 3,346cc straight-six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 300@6,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 267@4,800rpm
MPG: 28
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 50,000
Price new: £37,850 (before options)
Yours for: £20,995

 See the original advert here

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ex-devonpaul

Original Poster:

1,746 posts

167 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Not a bad price.

We looked at one when we were buying the wife's M Coupe about 7 years ago, it was up for £16.5k I think, about the same as an MC, so not much different now either. Probabky have been a better daily than the M though, but she didn't want a drop top. Besides, the dog can go in the boot of a coupe.

Robertb

3,881 posts

268 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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That engine is an absolute peach... I enjoyed it in my B3S.

Someone told me that even the seat cushion of the Alpina was re-sprung in order to better complement the ride. No idea if its true, but it makes sense given how thorough they are.

Do these suffer from the same 'sticky steering' as the standard cars?

rossub

5,982 posts

220 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Always loved the look of these, but they’re getting on a bit now.

Price is the highest I’ve seen, but on the face of it looks to be a good one.

B10BRW

360 posts

251 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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[quote=Robertb]

Someone told me that even the seat cushion of the Alpina was re-sprung in order to better complement the ride. No idea if its true, but it makes sense given how thorough they are.

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Andy Boviensepen spent hours hammering up and down the autobahns to try and find a comfortable driving/seat position, as the standard Z4 seats were naff.

The squab, bolsters and backrest were all changed, I spent many comfortable hours in mine thanks to Andy.

Earthdweller

19,524 posts

156 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Alpina is nice and not overly pricey

That M is insanely priced and from the advert 9 years between services is not a full service history (as claimed) with no mention of the running in service either

2 services in 17 years is not a FSH on a car that has a maximum two years between services regardless of mileage

Comedy priced M but the Alpina is lovely and commands a premium over the M

Slowlygettingit

945 posts

71 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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https://themarket.bonhams.com/en/listings/bmw/z4m-...

Reasonable looking z4m on the market. Less than 50k miles and expected at £15-20k

curvature

571 posts

104 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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The Alpina is a nice car but that M is way off the mark.

I would suggest £22-25k tops but then if you started using it you would lose money so bit of a hard one to value really. I've not even read the add in full as to me it is someone just trying their luck.

An M roadster cropped up for sale last week with 100k miles and looked pretty good value at £11.5k

Earthdweller

19,524 posts

156 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
https://themarket.bonhams.com/en/listings/bmw/z4m-...

Reasonable looking z4m on the market. Less than 50k miles and expected at £15-20k
That is how a service history should look .. nice mileage and serviced annually every 3k or so

Far far more sensible buy than the one in the article

Mr Tidy

31,569 posts

157 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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The M in the advert linked in the article is definitely way overpriced. eek

Alpina fitted the S52 engine enlarged to 3.4 litres, fitted 19" wheels (that look a real PITA to clean) without run-flat tyres but kept the Electric PAS, an open Diff. and removed the 155mph limiter.

BMW put the later S54 in the M, fitted 18" wheels without run-flats, swapped to Hydraulic PAS and fitted an LSD. They didn't remove the 155 limiter but as it only operates in 6th by all accounts an M in 5th will get to a similar top speed on an Autobahn!

There are more Ms about but they aren't exactly common as it seems only 614 M Roadsters were registered in the UK.

But as my Z4 had to be a Coupe after a couple of 3 litre ones I had to buy an M. biggrin


cerb4.5lee

44,895 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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I've always liked how rare these are, and I'd definitely like a go in one.

As said that Z4MR definitely isn't cheap, and I feel like I got a bit of a bargain with mine when I paid £14.5k for it back in 2012 with 38k miles on it in comparison.

Firebobby

1,001 posts

69 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Great looking car, with a price that isn't bending you over! Just the job for long summer evenings wafting over a good set of Welsh roads.

CacheMonet

119 posts

116 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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I absolutely hated the look of these when they were released but I have to say its aging very gracefully. Saw a tidy vanilla version the other day for the first time in a while and was quite surprised.

Earthdweller

19,524 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've always liked how rare these are, and I'd definitely like a go in one.

As said that Z4MR definitely isn't cheap, and I feel like I got a bit of a bargain with mine when I paid £14.5k for it back in 2012 with 38k miles on it in comparison.
I don’t think they are any more expensive today than when you bought yours in reality tbf

A nice lowish miles one today would be £15k-£20k and £14.5k in 2012 would be £22k today adjusted for inflation

Edited by Earthdweller on Tuesday 7th March 09:39

Ultraviolet

625 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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This is my Roadster S - bought last year for £20k. Quite top-end, but only 2 previous owners and with 35k on the clock, I stretched my budget slightly. In true PH style, I've since lavished more cash on it - mainly the hardtop shown in the picture, paint correction and ceramic paint protection. Car is mainly for weekend use and is tremendous, as you'd expect. More than quick enough and extremely well sorted with excellent ride. It's definitely more GT focused, slightly softer than the M cars, very comfortable and actually pretty civilised for all-year use with the hardtop suppressing road noise really well.





Edited by Ultraviolet on Tuesday 7th March 10:28

Water Fairy

6,619 posts

185 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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So is the ZF manual in this Alpina the same as fitted to an M or is it different/better?

LJF_97

376 posts

62 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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I have to disagree about the Z4 being in BMW's 'lesser' ranges, it is their 2 seat sports car.

ThomW

1,960 posts

58 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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These are fantastic cars, really are. Duke of London price tax seems to apply here of course - 66k mile Lux model with hardtop here for £15k, far better value: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206026...

Demonix

833 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Z4 Alpina Roadster S, nice spec, probably £5-6k overpriced and to me re-sale silver doesn't suit the car as well as Carbon black or Prussian Blue, darker colours look better on the slightly fussy/gawky z4 body.

cerb4.5lee

44,895 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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Ultraviolet said:
This is my Roadster S - bought last year for £20k. Quite top-end, but only 2 previous owners and with 35k on the clock, I stretched my budget slightly. In true PH style, I've since lavished more cash on it - mainly the hardtop shown in the picture, paint correction and ceramic paint protection. Car is mainly for weekend use and is tremendous, as you'd expect. More than quick enough and extremely well sorted with excellent ride. It's definitely more GT focused, slightly softer than the M cars, very comfortable and actually pretty civilised for all-year use with the hardtop suppressing road noise really well.





Edited by Ultraviolet on Tuesday 7th March 10:28
Very nice. thumbup

My Z4M was that colour combo as well.


BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,762 posts

128 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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"Alpina reportedly made thousands of changes to the cabin".

Suspect that may be a mild exaggeration....