MOT every 2 years
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Aventador 700

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2,903 posts

51 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Anyone know if its happening?

Hippea

3,940 posts

99 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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I personally think this would be a terrible idea. The vast majority of the population have total disregard as to the upkeep of their vehicles, relying on the MOT as a way of forcing them to react to defects and things that need doing.

the-norseman

15,896 posts

201 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Hippea said:
I personally think this would be a terrible idea. The vast majority of the population have total disregard as to the upkeep of their vehicles, relying on the MOT as a way of forcing them to react to defects and things that need doing.
Agree.

ingenieur

4,653 posts

211 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Hippea said:
I personally think this would be a terrible idea. The vast majority of the population have total disregard as to the upkeep of their vehicles, relying on the MOT as a way of forcing them to react to defects and things that need doing.
Agreed. I used to run a vehicle workshop and some of the things people liked to roll with were too dangerous to leave for another year.

Then again... if they keep up the speed limit erosion so we're crawling about everywhere who cares about safety. You'll never be doing more than 15 miles an hour so there won't be any injuries.

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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I think it should be kept annually too.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

252 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Hippea said:
I personally think this would be a terrible idea. The vast majority of the population have total disregard as to the upkeep of their vehicles, relying on the MOT as a way of forcing them to react to defects and things that need doing.
It doesn't take a year for a car to become unroadworthy, so I am not sure that two years vs one year makes THAT much difference.

I was on my way home from an MOT last week and within literally five minutes a tipper truck flung a large stone at my windscreen, rendering it unfit to pass an MOT. I got it repaired the next day, a lot of people wouldn't have and might have run about in the car for a full year before being pulled up on it.

People who don't maintain their cars don't maintain their cars.



E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
Hippea said:
I personally think this would be a terrible idea. The vast majority of the population have total disregard as to the upkeep of their vehicles, relying on the MOT as a way of forcing them to react to defects and things that need doing.
It doesn't take a year for a car to become unroadworthy, so I am not sure that two years vs one year makes THAT much difference.

I was on my way home from an MOT last week and within literally five minutes a tipper truck flung a large stone at my windscreen, rendering it unfit to pass an MOT. I got it repaired the next day, a lot of people wouldn't have and might have run about in the car for a full year before being pulled up on it.

People who don't maintain their cars don't maintain their cars.
And yet PLENTY of cars still fail MOTs...... Go figure....?

Court_S

14,754 posts

207 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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the-norseman said:
Hippea said:
I personally think this would be a terrible idea. The vast majority of the population have total disregard as to the upkeep of their vehicles, relying on the MOT as a way of forcing them to react to defects and things that need doing.
Agree.
I agree too, mate if mine runs an MOT centre and regularly posts videos of the horrors he gets to see and that’s with a yearly inspection.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

252 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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E90_M3Ross said:
Louis Balfour said:
Hippea said:
I personally think this would be a terrible idea. The vast majority of the population have total disregard as to the upkeep of their vehicles, relying on the MOT as a way of forcing them to react to defects and things that need doing.
It doesn't take a year for a car to become unroadworthy, so I am not sure that two years vs one year makes THAT much difference.

I was on my way home from an MOT last week and within literally five minutes a tipper truck flung a large stone at my windscreen, rendering it unfit to pass an MOT. I got it repaired the next day, a lot of people wouldn't have and might have run about in the car for a full year before being pulled up on it.

People who don't maintain their cars don't maintain their cars.
And yet PLENTY of cars still fail MOTs...... Go figure....?
I wonder how those failures are made up. The government will know. Perhaps they are seeing data that a huge number of failures are down to wiper blades, tyres etc etc, i.e. things that could become faulty at any time.

They are going out of their way to reduce speed, due to the cost of accidents to the economy. If they thought two-yearly MOTs would increase accidents they wouldn't be talking about it.






Pica-Pica

16,656 posts

114 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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In that consultation, tyres are highest for contributions to fatalities, yet they are most easily assessed by owners/drivers. I don’t see how MOT frequencies will change that. People who don’t give a damn, still won’t give a damn. Those who push their tyres’ illegalities to the limit will still do that - just renewing them for the MOTs.

There may be an argument for a comprehensive service at two years (main dealer) and then MOT at four years. The main discussion point to me is whether after the first MOT, should subsequent ones still be annually?

kylos27

205 posts

128 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Should be done off mileage instead of time ,
I.e.

Oil change every 10,000 miles
Mot every 30,000 miles
Cambelt every 60,000 miles etc……..

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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kylos27 said:
Should be done off mileage instead of time ,
I.e.

Oil change every 10,000 miles
Mot every 30,000 miles
Cambelt every 60,000 miles etc……..
Why? There are certain MOT items which can fail independant of mileage and are dependant on many other factors.

Dracoro

9,033 posts

275 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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kylos27 said:
Should be done off mileage instead of time ,
I.e.

Oil change every 10,000 miles
Mot every 30,000 miles
Cambelt every 60,000 miles etc……..
If that were the case, my Porsche would only need an MOT every 10 years biggrin the Avensis every 5 years biggrin

Now, I look after my cars, but plenty don’t necessarily do high mileage and I would no want to see some of them go 5/10 years without an MOT!

I think 1 year is OK but think NEW cars should be doing that, none of this no MOT for first 3 years - many new cars are doing higher mileage, lots of tyre/break wear and possibly suspension too.

At the end of the day cars should be roadworthy ALL the time, not just when it needs MOTing…. Granted there’ll be something that can “wait” until MOT time but only as that will be at worst < 12 months away.

Kuwahara

1,555 posts

48 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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I think for some a year is too long ,some people see a years ticket as a free pass from maintenance…

menousername

2,508 posts

172 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Pica-Pica said:
In that consultation, tyres are highest for contributions to fatalities, yet they are most easily assessed by owners/drivers. I don’t see how MOT frequencies will change that. People who don’t give a damn, still won’t give a damn. Those who push their tyres’ illegalities to the limit will still do that - just renewing them for the MOTs.

There may be an argument for a comprehensive service at two years (main dealer) and then MOT at four years. The main discussion point to me is whether after the first MOT, should subsequent ones still be annually?
Well there would be an extra year of driving with illegal tyres I suppose


sixor8

8,600 posts

298 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Well Spain, Portugal and I'm sure other countries do Ok with a safety check every 2 years, and start at the 4th birthday. but only until the car is of a certain age (I think, 8 yrs?) then it becomes annual. Obviously, commercial vehicles, taxis etc are more frequent.

I think you'd need more severe penalties for unroadworthy cars for it to work, and would probably end up with random VOSA checks, like for red diesel use or drink driving.

Dracoro

9,033 posts

275 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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sixor8 said:
Well Spain, Portugal and I'm sure other countries do Ok with a safety check every 2 years, and start at the 4th birthday. but only until the car is of a certain age (I think, 8 yrs?) then it becomes annual
However, they don’t have anywhere near the same crap conditions as we have in winter months, no road grit corrosion etc. low tyres in warm/dry weather whilst not ideal, is certainly less of an issue with low crap tyres in 2 degrees wet weather…
If we’re to compare, I think we need to know what they do in countries with similar climate/roads, maybe Germany/Denmark etc…

sixor8

8,600 posts

298 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Have you ever been in Northern Spain in Winter? It ca be grim, and it's every 2 yrs in Germany too starting at 3:

https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/germany/transport...


stevemcs

10,350 posts

123 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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I think the likes of Spain and Germany drives/owners look after their cars slightly better. Most of the cars we see that fail are the newer PCP generation that only have £400 a month to spend on the car and then they get all surprised when it needs tyres or brakes.