RE: BMW readies electric 5 Series
RE: BMW readies electric 5 Series
Wednesday 29th March 2023

BMW readies electric 5 Series

We've had i4 and i7; this new i5 could be the most important electric BMW yet


Testing cars is a vital process, and never more so than when electric cars are concerned. Not only are there fiendishly difficult electronics to incorporate into ever more complex cars, the EV part must function perfectly in all conditions. And on top of that, companies will want to instil their own feel to the ride, handling and performance. Which, when you’re a company like BMW, is paramount. Especially when the electric car in question is a battery powered 5 Series. Despite an ever broadening product portfolio, saloons like the 3 and the 5 remain the archetypal BMWs - you look to those to see what the brand is doing. So the 5 EV is a hugely significant car.

BMW’s latest update on the i5 is on its ‘ultimate endurance test’, a year of snow and ice testing. A year! In that time it’s gone from Munich to Arjeplog (driving the 1,850 miles), the Alps to Denmark, driving on frozen lakes, solid snow and icy passes. As well as test tracks and motorways in low temperatures - in BMW’s own words, they’ve been ‘arduous’ test drives. ‘The innovative powertrain and chassis control systems on board the new BMW i5 do a great deal to optimise its traction, dynamism and driving stability, and nowhere is this more apparent than on… icy mountain roads’.

So, what should we expect from the BMW i5, given its reveal is still a few months away? It’s going to be powered by a ‘further upgraded’ version of BMW’s fifth-generation eDrive technology, the electric architecture that underpins the iX. Not exactly a PH favourite, but very competitive as an EV when it comes to efficiency and driving dynamics. The iX uses a 105.2kWh battery, with up to 200kW rapid charging and three-miles per kilowatt hour for the xDrive 40. A (hopefully) lighter 5 Series with further upgraded battery tech ought to improve on that efficiency.

But it wouldn’t do for a BMW electric saloon merely to be efficient. As tradition dictates (and the i4 has largely proven), it’s got to be good to drive as well. Apparently the i5 has thrilled with its ‘outstanding handling abilities’ on the slippery stuff; tough job, but somebody has to skid saloons in the snow. To make sure all the assists work, of course. ‘Thanks to their low-grip surfaces, the test areas sited on frozen lakes around Arjeplog were particularly well suited for delicately adjusting the drive torque control system in the BMW i5 under precisely reproducible conditions.’ Apparently the systems only became more impressive the faster and harder the car was driven. The key i5 takeaways, according to BMW, were that it ‘performs at least as proficiently’ as an ICE car in the snow and that it offers up a unique - for its segment - ‘blend of optimum traction when pulling away and supreme driving stability when cornering or braking’. Looks great going sideways, too, but that’s probably of less importance right now.

With winter testing complete, the i5 presumably has an easier run of final development now before it’s revealed to the world. That’s expected in October, ahead of going on sale early in 2024. Already BMW is talking of the competitiveness of its sector; there are, of course, already models like the Mercedes EQE and Porsche Taycan out there, with new cars from Polestar and Audi on the way as well. Just as it is for the 5s with engines, the i5 won’t be short of competition. Then again, you wouldn’t bet against BMW making quite a good battery powered 5 Series, either.


Author
Discussion

Gecko1978

Original Poster:

12,302 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
So with winter testing will this do 300 miles (seems enough) and can you charge it at home via wall box over say 7hrs

That would seem to be enough if you have home charger etc

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Gecko1978 said:
So with winter testing will this do 300 miles (seems enough) and can you charge it at home via wall box over say 7hrs

That would seem to be enough if you have home charger etc
A full charge would be more like 15-20 hours, but you could get a very usable top-up overnight at home.

jason61c

5,978 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
What sort of price will it be?

£50k to generate all the company car/lease sales?

Paulo_G

61 posts

106 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
jason61c said:
What sort of price will it be?

£50k to generate all the company car/lease sales?
Given the i4 starts at £50k, I'd imagine this will be starting much nearer £60k for the base one.

Robertb

3,886 posts

268 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
I'm optimistic that they haven't completely spannered the styling with a beaver snout, but lets wait and see.

620S

433 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
The only relevant question we need answered really is related to the styling / grill - dogs dinner or return to form?

kambites

71,565 posts

251 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
I can't help but feel that as long as BMW keep basing most of their EVs on ICE platforms, they're going to be at a serious disadvantage.

Dark85

714 posts

178 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
620S said:
The only relevant question we need answered really is related to the styling / grill - dogs dinner or return to form?
A return to form is asking a lot, I'm just hoping for not comedically ugly at this point.

whp1983

1,393 posts

169 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Currently got a 5 series touring….. electric tourer is the company car I’m waiting for!

Ninja59

3,691 posts

142 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
kambites said:
I can't help but feel that as long as BMW keep basing most of their EVs on ICE platforms, they're going to be at a serious disadvantage.
All they are doing is stretching out the life of the CLAR and UKF architectures until 2025 when the Neue Klasse will effectively replace them.

But bmw continue to make strange decisions regarding the space below the bonnet released by changing to EV and not dorpping in a small luggage area even for the cables.

NGK210

5,067 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Judging by the styling of the XM, et al, hopefully the test i5’s disguise-wrap will also be a final ‘paint’ option.

Bryans69

671 posts

162 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
kambites said:
I can't help but feel that as long as BMW keep basing most of their EVs on ICE platforms, they're going to be at a serious disadvantage.
Not necessarily. Whilst a Tesla Model 3 has a useful front boot, rear legroom space is seriously compromised due to skateboard platform floor taking up more space, and reviews I've seen of other purpose built EV's suggest this is also an issue with them.

Not suggesting building EVs on ICE platforms is perfect, but as always, swings and roundabouts.

Neill-l9qpf

72 posts

108 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
The leasing market will eat these up so the used market for them should be pretty healthy in 3-4 years time.

Just hoping they've resisted the urge to fit the "beaver grille" onto this one and kept the styling low key

swisstoni

24,102 posts

309 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
They seem to have accidentally made a Vauxhall Carlton.

Twinair

1,038 posts

172 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
swisstoni said:
They seem to have accidentally made a Vauxhall Carlton.
Lol..!! :-)) yes - this was what I was thinking at 1st glance too…!

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Dark85 said:
620S said:
The only relevant question we need answered really is related to the styling / grill - dogs dinner or return to form?
A return to form is asking a lot, I'm just hoping for not comedically ugly at this point.
The current 5 and 3 are good looking cars. The rest..... Yeah.

Motormatt

508 posts

248 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Bryans69 said:
kambites said:
I can't help but feel that as long as BMW keep basing most of their EVs on ICE platforms, they're going to be at a serious disadvantage.
Not necessarily. Whilst a Tesla Model 3 has a useful front boot, rear legroom space is seriously compromised due to skateboard platform floor taking up more space, and reviews I've seen of other purpose built EV's suggest this is also an issue with them.

Not suggesting building EVs on ICE platforms is perfect, but as always, swings and roundabouts.
It makes sense, the CLAR platform allows BMW to manage the transitional period the industry is going through, offering different drive trains for different markets without having the expense of developing multiple platforms. I'm just pleased to see new EVs that arent SUVs coming to market

My early teen kids both moan about the lack of rear leg room in our Tesla Model 3, so would agree the skateboard platform has its issues in that department!

Watcher of the skies

1,353 posts

67 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
EmailAddress said:
Not really much to say.
Except that it will be ugly and will be driven by dicks.

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Watcher of the skies said:
EmailAddress said:
Not really much to say.
Except that it will be ugly and will be driven by dicks.
That's a pretty big generalisation. I'm sure many say the same about those who drive Evoques. Doesn't necessarily make it true.

blueacid

518 posts

171 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
quotequote all
Gecko1978 said:
So with winter testing will this do 300 miles (seems enough) and can you charge it at home via wall box over say 7hrs

That would seem to be enough if you have home charger etc
At 7kW, 7 hours is enough for circa 49kWh of energy. So if the battery is 80kWh for instance, that's good enough to put 60% or so back into it.
Basically the solution for range nowadays is increasingly large batteries. Meaning that a full 5-95% charge is going to take a while.

Of course, if your commute isn't that long, there's no requirement to charge fully every night; so long as you put in more than you'll need tomorrow, you can 'recover' from a long journey over the course of several days.